Tuesday, May 18, 2021

Hey Mayor, Here is Some Science

 St. Anthony said yesterday those vaccinated against Covid-19 don't need to wear masks.  The Hill reported: 

Appearing on CBS's "Face the Nation," Fauci explained to host John Dickerson that fully vaccinated people can go without masks even if they have an asymptomatic case of COVID-19 because the level of virus is much lower in their nasopharynx, the top part of their throat that lies behind the nose, than it is in someone who is unvaccinated.

"So even though there are breakthrough infections with vaccinated people, almost always the people are asymptomatic and the level of virus is so low it makes it extremely unlikely — not impossible but very, very low likelihood — that they're going to transmit it," Fauci said.

Fauci added that vaccinated people essentially become "dead ends" for the virus to spread within their communities.

"When you get vaccinated, you not only protect your own health and that of the family but also you contribute to the community health by preventing the spread of the virus throughout the community," Fauci said. "In other words, you become a dead end to the virus. And when there are a lot of dead ends around, the virus is not going to go anywhere. And that's when you get a point that you have a markedly diminished rate of infection in the community." Article

 Jackson Mayor Chokwe Antar Lumumba said yesterday Jackson's mask mandate would remain in place until possibly September.  He justified the order by claiming he was following the science despite the CDC's recommendations last week.  The Mayor refused to lift the mandate even for those who are fully vaccinated.  A third of Hinds County residents have received both shots of the Covid-19 vaccine. 

Kingfish note: The Clarion-Ledger reported: 

But Lumumba said the CDC has yet to provide a guideline specifically for cities that would determine how to differentiate between a vaccinated and non-vaccinated person, and noted many larger cities have opted to keep their mandates in place. 

He said HIPAA laws, which protect the privacy of health care patients, prevent the city from inquiring about someone's status.

Exactly how would the Mayor violate HIPAA by "inquiring about someone's status" if he wanted to go the vaccine passport route?

HIPAA applies to health care providers, health care plans, and health care clearinghouses.  


Anonymous said...

Go to a press conference and ask, Jamie. Stop using Fat Melvin's videos and take your scary ass up to City Hall and ASK.

Anonymous said...

They never want the masks to come off. Remember I said that.

PJM said...

By my observation most of the Mayor’s constituents don’t even wear their mask properly anyway. So to quote the movie “Hysterical” What difference does it make?

Anonymous said...

You're not following the science if you ignore natural immunity from having covid in the past. All these "cases" we've been constantly alerted about for the past year should have a protective effect.

Anonymous said...

Ashby Foote should stop wearing a mask in city council meetings citing the CDC, Dr. Fauci and the President's recommendations.

Kingfish said...

They are not Melvin's videos. The city owns those videos. That means they are the people's videos. They belong to all residents of Jackson, including me.

Anonymous said...

All of us will still die, but then again I assume you all know that even having gotten the avoid death vaccine.

Anonymous said...

Full vaccinated does not necessarily mean everyone getting the vaccination is protected from the virus. There are a lot of immune suppressed individuals. Transplant patients, those with certain cancers, or more generally those receiving some cancer treatments.

For many of those people the risks of covid continue.


Anonymous said...

I have been waiting 7 years for City Hall to fix the large pothole in front of my house. I am not wearing this GD mask for 7 years.

Anonymous said...

Mr. Mayor,

I'm sure you never saw this study because MSNBC didn't report on it but here's a study direct from the CDC for you since you are such a fan of "science." Mask mandates were associated with only a 1.8% decrease in the number of Covid cases - great virtue signal we have there.


During March 1–December 31, 2020, state-issued mask
mandates applied in 2,313 (73.6%) of the 3,142 U.S. counties. Mask mandates were associated with a 0.5 percentage
point decrease (p = 0.02) in daily COVID-19 case growth
rates 1–20 days after implementation and decreases of 1.1,
1.5, 1.7, and 1.8 percentage points 21–40, 41–60, 61–80, and
81–100 days, respectively, after implementation (p<0.01 for all)
(Table 1) (Figure). Mask mandates were associated with a 0.7
percentage point decrease (p = 0.03) in daily COVID-19 death
growth rates 1–20 days after implementation and decreases of
1.0, 1.4, 1.6, and 1.9 percentage points 21–40, 41–60, 61–80,
and 81–100 days, respectively, after implementation (p<0.01
for all). Daily case and death growth rates before implementation of mask mandates were not statistically different from the
reference period.

Anonymous said...

Fauci is selling vaccine,
Fauci is selling vaccine,
Science ain't science unless it's his science
Fauci is selling vaccine.

Anonymous said...

So you’re agreeing with Dr. Fauci now?? This is getting more confusing by the day.....

Anonymous said...

Why is no one addressing those that have antibodies as a result of having had the virus as opposed to having had the vaccination? Do those people get to stop wearing a mask, or keep wearing a mask, or half-way wear a mask, or what??

Anonymous said...

12:11, that's again NOT what it says. It says "daily COVID-19 case GROWTH rates."

You wrote (incorrectly) "Mask mandates were associated with only a 1.8% decrease in the NUMBER of Covid cases."

You also deliberately left out other facts, such as the study that showed:

"During March 22–October 17, 2020, 10 sites participating in the COVID-19–Associated Hospitalization Surveillance Network in states with statewide mask mandates reported a decline in weekly COVID-19–associated hospitalization growth rates by up to start 5.6 percentage points for adults aged 18–64 years after mandate implementation, compared with growth rates during the 4 weeks preceding implementation of the mandate." That's a NEGATIVE GROWTH RATE OF FIVE POINT SIX.

The mask mandates are CLEARLY associated with HUGE DECREASES in the GROWTH rate which is, in the end a MUCH larger number of CASES PREVENTED. And Lives Saved.

Learn elementary school math and reading. GROWTH RATES. "over time" "time frame" "hospitalization" etc

All the things that are pointed out, but FaceBook Fake Doctors, "calling Dr. (NOT) Rogan", leave out to mislead.

You just continue to spew misleading information in a desperate attempt to justify Anti Mask ignorance. And, at this point, one would ask WHY???

WhiskeyRunner said...

If we are saying we can’t ask people about vaccine because of HIPPA then what will be the barrier to pass to not wear a mask? Certain % of people vaccinated in Hinds County or will the Mayor just follow other bigger cities. 21 states I believe still have a mandate, of those California is planning to lift there’s sometime in June, KY has a mandate but only for unvaccinated people. What circumstances are still in place that would make the mandate stay until September. What is the breaking point for the Mayor to lift it?

Anonymous said...

1:39 I haven't worn a mask since last spring. I have not gotten COVID. What I have gotten is an immune system. I am an American and I will not subscribe to this chicken little must wear a mask BS. I am vaccinated and will carry on with life. If you get all bent out of shape about people not wearing masks, you need to focus on something else, Karen.

Anonymous said...

Science says that concealed carrying a firearm increases the probability of me surviving, I bet Antar 2.0 is not on board with more concealed carrying of firearms in his city limits.

Anonymous said...

Science says growth rates increased exponentially when mask wearing was at it’s highest

Anonymous said...

Recent published study found antibodies still present 1 year after infection


Anonymous said...

@2:05 - care to post a link to your science?

Anonymous said...

What, is the JPD going to arrest people who don’t wear a mask? I wore one faithfully everywhere until last week. I’m vaccinated now. I’m done. I live in madison but when I go to jackson, still not gonna wear it. He can keep the “mandate” but I don’t think he’s going to be able to force people to wear them.

Anonymous said...

Mayor, PLEASE Free The Land!

Jimmy B said...

Being shot in Jackson scares me more than the virus.

Anonymous said...

I’ll be interested to see if kingfish calls out the towns that do away with mask mandates in school against the scientific advice. I think we all know the answer, but we will see.

Anonymous said...

Molecules associated with smell and aroma are 100’s times larger than sars/cov.
Fart in an elevator and tell me masks work. It’s nonsense.

Anonymous said...

Fauci’s statement applies only to vaccinated people, and the majority of people in Jackson, as well as the surrounding areas, is not vaccinated.

The more of a free-for-all there is amongst the people who refuse to get vaccinated, the more of a chance for mutations of the virus to occur. The vaccines are not guaranteed to work against future mutations. Moreover, some people are immunocompromised. If you want to go mask-free so badly, you should encourage people to get the vaccine.

You know this, Kingfish.

Calm Down said...


What science calls for mask mandates in schools? Link?

Anonymous said...

Dear 6:12, The Elevator Farter: No, that's a Covidiot AntiMask Lie.

"The particles that cause odors, these are extremely tiny molecules. Although the COVID-19 virus is a microscopic microorganism, it still is much, much more complex than the molecules that would cause odors to be smelled," said Dr. Fred Campbell, associate professor of medicine at UT Health San Antonio.

Now, we can detect the Dumb not just by sight, but by smell. Thanks for that, Tooter.

Anonymous said...

1:01 pm

How stupid are you?

Anyone could have bought shares of Pfizer or Moderna or J&J.

No one is paying to get vaccinated.

The government buys the vaccine directly from the companies. The former administration had already committed to buy several million doses. Which was kinda strange if there was no need.

While I might sicken looking at your face and dental issues, I don't personally care if you wear a mask or not. I'm vaccinated and CV19 won't kill me. But,if the new reports in India and Brazil are accurate, children are dying from the mutations or repeated exposure so I do hate you'll may be hurting or killing children. But, God will have to deal with you later.

Anonymous said...

That HIPPA applies showing proof of vaccination is blatantly ridiculous.

You can show YOUR health information to anyone you like. And, if you don't want to show it to get on a plane, you don't have to show it. But, United damn well doesn't have to let you on the plane. I don't have to let you into my house or business or do business with you either.

And, already, I and many of those I know, have stopped doing business with or using the services of those who weren't following guidelines and who won't get vaccinated.

We cannot trust their judgment or believe they will give any weight to our interests when it comes their profit, convenience or pleasure. It's that simple. They don't value their customers or patients or clients.

There are apparently more people who managed to get through school with memorization skills but poor comprehension and decision making skills.

Anonymous said...

@8:58 - the same “science” quoted by the author, the CDC recommendations. School kids haven’t been vaccinated, hence they are supposed to wear a mask like all the other unvaccinated people.

Calm Down said...

I'm aware that the CDC has offered an opinion on making school kids wear a mask. I'm unaware that there is some science behind that opinion. If you have it, please share.

Wow said...


Here would be an interesting article.

Create a graphic of all the gun deaths in Jackson over the course of the pandemic

and compare that to the deaths via COVID-19.

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