Governor Tate Reeves issued the following statement.
I have spent the last 23 years fighting the leftists, their liberal ideology, and the Mississippi Democratic Party’s philosophy that government knows best. They believe the people should NEVER be empowered - only the government should!
I have NO reason to get mad at the Democrats - they openly believe something very different than me. Their approach is wrong and we have proven them wrong over and over with our education results. In fact, our “Mississippi Miracle” only started because Conservatives took over the House and Senate in 2011 and for 8 years we passed laws that adhered to our political philosophy.
That is why—in my 23 years—I’ve never been more disappointed in elected officials than I am this morning in LG Hosemann and Senator Dennis Debar. They killed a Republican legislative priority shared by conservatives all across this country and they worked closely with the Democrats to do it. Even worse—they tried to do it in the dark and hide it from MS conservatives on a deadline day.
The Mississippi Senate Education Committee: Where Conservative priorities go to Die. And where the Democrat philosophy still dominates.
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He’s right.
Tate Reeves is not leading Mississippi. He is performing for an audience that does not live here. Every outburst and every press statement is aimed upward toward Trump rather than outward toward the people he is supposed to serve. He governs like a man desperate for approval, mistaking loyalty theater for actual leadership.
The HB 2 meltdown says everything. Instead of doing the work to build support, he assumed obedience. When the Senate refused to play along, he lashed out and blamed them for his own failure. That is not strength. That is insecurity dressed up as outrage.
Reeves’ political identity is pure sycophancy. He echoes Trump’s tone without possessing Trump’s influence. He copies the grievance but lacks the force of personality or skill to bend anyone to his will. He wants to be seen as Trump aligned without having to do anything hard or effective. The result is noise without authority and anger without results.
Mississippi deserves a governor who can count votes before picking a fight and who understands that leadership is built through persuasion, not tantrums. Tate Reeves does neither. The Senate did not betray him. They simply refused to pretend that bluster equals power.
There are solid conservatives on that committee. Not in the majority but they are there. They aren't "cucks" or "RINO's". Perhaps people should be asking why they voted against it as well.
Well we’ve all known the Lt. Gov is actually a Democrat, so….
If Mississippi actually worked hard on education and employment people in the delta wouldn’t be sitting on welfare less than ten miles from the plantation their ancestors worked on. You don’t see states like Wyoming or Montana giving away taxpayer dollars trying to bribe people into putting jobs in the middle of nowhere, they promote people actually moving to where the jobs and infrastructure are. This bill would have allowed students with parents that actually care to go to a decent school instead of being forced to sit in the middle of nowhere hoping that somehow the state will fix their broken jobs program school district or bribe someone into building a factory in their backyard.
But isn't the Gov. the one on national TV bragging about the massive improvements in Mississippi education? How we are leading the nation, blah blah blah? Is that the truth Tate or just PR? Which is it?
So his logic is as follows: conservatives should get all the credit for creating policies that fundamentally improved education (just once it’d be nice to acknowledge the role of teachers in the “Miracle”). Conservative policies made public education great again so let’s attack public education because our policies will free all the people from the chains of our terrible public education. Hard to follow.
So shallow. Party identity is going the way of NATO. The more you professed keepers of the ideology insult reasonable conservatives, the more we want to become independent.
Students could only transfer if the receiving school district accepted them, and this was not going to happen much. No school district is going to want the potential of large swings in enrollment each year. This was poorly conceived from the start. The correct approach is to fix underperforming districts by firing teachers and administrators that don’t perform acceptably.
This reminds me a lot of the political phenomenon of not liking Congress, but liking your congressman. Polls say that parents want school choice, but it isn’t as if hundreds of applications are denied by school boards and districts today. That would only suggest that they’re not interested in transferring.
I came here to say this. Instead of the insults, why don’t they just ask what their issue is?
^^ Pablum ^^
Hosemann may be reasonable but he is not a conservative.
School choice is an issue far too complex for the people being mad about it on either side to try to make it black and white.
This is just posturing by Tater Tot, nothing more. HB2 had little to do with "conservative vs. liberal", to me. In fact, I don't see how the supposed "equal access" is truly a conservative aim, really. If you have the means, you move to a better district. If you do not, you're stuck with what's available. I'm not saying that is "right" or "fair" but that seems to fall in line with more of a free market type of mentality. The only aspect of "too much government" in school choice is the drawing of district lines. But it's not like those are secret or gerrymandered for political purposes when it comes to schools. I don't think. Someone here can definitely correct any of my thinking on this. There was also a little "Christmas Tree bill" going on with this, lumping in something as beneficial as teacher pay increases with a controversial (for whatever reason) item like opening school choice. I welcome any insight or opposing views to educate me, no pun intended...or maybe it was.
KF is correct! And maybe that’s because Gov Reeves (that I voted for) should blame himself for not doing a good enough job explaining why the ____ we as parents should want the private schools (like the one his children attended) infiltrated with government funds that ALWAYS ends up coming with strings attached.
We pay tuition so our children don’t ever have to deal with the public school BS of boys playing in girl sports, pervert teachers telling children they can be whatever sex they want to be, etc., etc., etc. It’s bad enough what’s going on at JA now; can you imagine what it will be like when the self-serving government gets involved?
Until Reeves can give us that gives us that “Oh I see now why we should support this school choice” had a revelation moment, he needs to stop blaming the Senate, look in the mirror, then either explain it, or shut up.
Hear, hear. You’re speaking truth and you’ve hit a nerve with the Trump junkies already. 7:56 hasn’t updated his angry rhetoric since Morton Downey Jr. was on tv.
Agreed, fix them directly.
Logistically how was this supposed to work? If a parent want a kid to attend school in Hattiesburg, but live on the coast? Is the school to provide transportation or the parent. In that scenario wouldn't it depends on income to get "close enough" the be able to attend the choice school. What other barriers are not written into the bill and would make it harder to get into a chosen school?
@7:14am /thread done
Andy Gibison for Governor
Good grief! I really dislike "temper tantrums" and lying in politics. Worse some of you do not know the people at all. You've never socialized informally with them or worked on with them on anything. And very few of the Democrats in the legislature rise to the level of "liberal" in this state or any other.
The majority of our legislature is still a Republican majority. They just don't have the 2/3 supermajority anymore.
And, thankfully, enough of our legislators bothered to look at other examples of "school choice" bill and found out this was a ridiculous bill that wasn't well researched or well written.
As for me, I want to return to competence as our standard and abandon knee jerk party BS!
^^ Detached from reality ^^
If you believe there aren't 'pervert teachers' amongst the ranks of Mississippi's private school teachers then you simply haven't been paying attention ... and probably shouldn't comment since you are so out of touch.
Very well stated. Now will Tate go full Trump and threaten to put the guard in school houses? Or at precincts for those who disagree with him? Will Tate sanction death of those who disagree with him and do so by voicing their protests? Et u tater?
Not only did this joke of a governor who tries to claim everyone else's success as his own have a baby tantrum about this, he is so lazy he himself or some staffer generated AI slop and got AI to write out the above post for him. Laughable that he thinks it is not easy to see no one even wrote this.
He is upset he does not get to show to higher, out-of-state party power that he can blindly keep the line on everything.
For his narcissistic sake, I suggest he keep claiming everyone else's success all he wants, but leave the actual legislating and policy to our conservatives and republicans who actually care. It is telling that in all of these posts on Facebook, comments across all isles tell them this bill was not the right approach.
Why don't you focus on fixing MEMA and the disaster that has been the emergency response to the snowstorm in North Mississippi where shelters have literally had no coordinated staffing instead of this pointless posturing.
Mississippi Constitution; Article 8; Section 208
No religious or other sect or sects shall ever control any part of the school or other educational funds of this state; nor shall any funds be appropriated toward the support of any sectarian school, or to any school that at the time of receiving such appropriation is not conducted as a free school.
Apparently for republicans the constitution is optional.
@8:14 - serious question. Where are the public schools in Jackson, or in the whole state of Mississippi where any of that is happening? We all know that's not why people have kids in private school in Jackson.
Somehow they need to figure out a way to fill Jackson with high-standard, high-achieving private charter schools that can help the two dozen or so students in JPS with talent, rather than flooding the seg academies of the burbs with low-potential, low-achieving “scholars” who will only drag down the current students with an actual aptitude for success.
A conservative position is not using public money for a private non profit. That is the issue I have with the bill.
Public funds should not be spent on private schools. Reeves is pandering to the worst Mississippians. Delbert and the Senate made the tight choice.
Dembert isn't winning a primary.
Let me guess you voted for Musgrove?
This is the Tokyoification of the US.
Where does the Gov stand on campaign finance reform? Let me guess. Of course private school by choice parents don't give a shit about campaign finance reform. It's like NIL for politicians.
KF if you're trying to convince me that a lot of so called "conservatives" in Mississippi aren't of the type that are just there to conserve their paycheck you'll have to do a lot more convincing. In my 38 years of life in Mississippi I haven't seen any forward motion to bringing economic activity or improving education except for the last 4 years or so.
You aren't fooling anyone by commenting over and over again.
@7:14 .....CORRECT and I hope Missippians saw with his bungling of the ice storm what an incompetent little man he is and never ever vote him into any office again. I've voted Republican 50 years but I also recognize the shortcomings of having a man whose number 1 goal isi being a Trump sock puppet like Tater run our state.
Tater showed his personal level of competency (or lack there of) during the ice storm . He is nothing but a Trump me too man and that ain't good for Mississippi.....and I'm a Republican . And ditto for our senator Minie Pearl !
Why don’t we cut the number of school districts and give savings to the teachers who are really doing the heavy lifting. We got 3 million people that live in the state, 82 counties and over 180 school districts. I imagine you could cut the number of school districts in half and have plenty of money to pay teachers and put toward underfunded pension. Love watching these guys spend our tax money eating at Shapley’s, Char and Tico’s while raising our taxes. When they do very little to make our government efficient other than talk about it.
So many great comments on here -- kudos to the Senate for holding the line. Can't wait for Tater to be gone! --and it's actually the republicans who believe the people should not be empowered when they killed statewide referendums.
There's alot of money and palm-greasing behind this bill or they wouldn't be raising so much hell. Great job Senate!
Tater and the rest of the proponents knew of the basic objections to the bill before it even went to committee. Making a reasonable fix would not give them this opportunity to grandstand and denounce big government and liberal policies controlling Mississippi. Not Minnesota.... Mississippi. Are you watching Mr. Trump? Good show governor!
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