Monday, November 29, 2021

Show us Your Papers, Pleaz

 The Pearl River Valley Water Supply District issued the following statement.

 Beginning Wednesday, Dec. 1, all people over the age of 16 will be required to obtain a permit prior to using the Barnett Reservoir spillway area for recreation, according to the Pearl  River Valley Water Supply District. Permits will be free and reservoir officials say the program is designed to help curb a continuing problem related to litter and vandalism in the popular fishing and picnic area by initiating a  level of public accountability.

The permits, which will be available at access boxes on both sides of the spillway, include three perforated sections:
Part A must be filled out and left face up on the dashboard of the vehicle.
Part B, which requires more information, must be deposited in one of several drop boxes before any
recreation can begin.
Part C is a smaller piece that must be in the visitor’s possession during his or her entire visit.

Based on a system used by the Mississippi Department of Wildlife, Fisheries, and Parks for access to its many Wildlife Management Areas, the permits must be obtained prior to each visit to the spillway. While some pencils will be available in the permit boxes, users are urged to include a pen or pencil in their tackle boxes or vehicles. Not having a writing utensil availablewill not exempt a visitor from the permitting process.

It is perfectly acceptable for a visitor to obtain a permit(s) in advance to be filled out prior to arrival; however, new cards must be displayed, deposited and carried in possession on each trip. Only the information pertinent to each visitor must be included. For example, non-boaters will not need to include a boat ID number, and people who are exempt from having a fishing license need not supply that number.

PRVWSD’s Board of Directors voted in the permitting process at its October meeting and immediately began regulatory procedures to make it law. The permits will be policy beginning Dec. 1, and  sometime early in 2022 it will become a law with up to a $100 penalty for a citation.


Anonymous said...

What happens if your papers are......Not in order???

Anonymous said...

Only in Mississippi can guv’ment be so stupid. This is just another ploy to have more $ allocated and personnel

Anonymous said...

IN PART BECAUSE : Punk ass's are ruining the place for everyone else ! Punk ass's who have never been taught how to throw garbage away ! Punk ass's who disrespect older folks. Punks punks punks who aren't in school but should be ! You make folks nervous son. Quit being a punk ass.

Anonymous said...

2:55 --- Stupid? Seems to me to be a reasonable attempt by 'the government' to continue to allow use of this public facility and to require responsible use. Maybe you are one of those 'entitled punks' who think you should be able to use these facilities without cost or inconvenience, and somebody will come pick up after you when you leave. Probably just like you were raised with your mama picking up your trash, your clothes, and cleaning up after you at the dinner table. Otherwise, why would you object to such a simple procedure?

Anonymous said...

Are they going to staff the entrances, or just perform ad-hoc inspections if they see someone who looks like they are up to no good? Doesn't sound like much fun for the Reservoir Police. Look for profiling claims to come into question, quickly.

Anonymous said...

3:02. . .While I don't agree with your colorful naming of the people you are describing, you are right. Too many people think the reservoir and surrounding areas are their own personal garbage cans, bars, and thug hangouts. If people would simply adopt the "leave it better than you found it" mentality and simply act like a responsible human being then this kind of crap would not be required of anyone.

Just passing through with a VW Microbus full of garbage said...

Please leave Part C of the form under someone else's garbage before you leave. Who will be the first to duct tape an ink pen in the mouth of a 4 foot dead and rotting Gar to leave for use at the sign in station like all the banks and hospitals tape garbage to their ink pens to thwart stillin'?

Anonymous said...

So the state has the authority to fine everybody at a large pond because of the actions of a few……

But the state can’t impose mask mandates on everybody…..even though Tate did just that…

And the state voted to keep the old MS flag but the governor canceled the flag with one order…..while he said he is for the flag….

And pers is bankrupt and no one does anything to fix that mess….

And now Tate thinks he knows constitutional law even though he never went to law school…..

And finally MS is 50th in everything and has been since Tate took over 20 plus years ago….

Some record

Don Drane said...

Which one is bouncing loudest off the rails of reality...Sigman or Biden. I'm thinking it's a tie with Sigman pulling ahead. And it takes a lot to pull ahead of Uncle Joe.

Tweety said...

As a leader of a Pearl River cleanup day (we collected over 5 tons within sight of the spillway) I applaud their belated effort BUT I don't think another bit of trash is gonna help. I propose they dispense unique trash bags and require each person to pick up 5 lbs BEFORE they start fishing. Anyone found cheating, thrown in and required to come out on opposite bank {PFD provided}. We'll clean something up, either the banks OR a "punk" attitude @3:02

Anonymous said...

Why here but not every other public places n the district?

Anonymous said...

I’ll take all bets that within 45 days the box will be empty and never refilled with blank forms again.

Anonymous said...

Where is the nexus between filling out the form, leaving one copy in their box, one copy on your dash, another on your person, and not littering?

Are the reservoir police going to contact everyone who filled out the free permit and ask them if they littered?

There is no nexus, but the "good idea fairies" are keeping busy.

Anonymous said...

4:01 obviously you don't like Tate, but before you rant in public you should at least kinda check your facts. Tate did away with the flag? Did you ignore the legislature in this process, which passed the change (in a veto proof margin? And when did Tate issue a mask mandate?

And being 50th the last twenty years since Tate was in charge? That's a real stretch thinking that the Treasurer is in charge of the state, but more importantly, we've been 50th since about 1859. Maybe early into 1860.

And yes, laws can be passed because of the actions of a few. But since you obviously think you know constitutional law, the action by the Reservoir board wasn't a law.

But, thanks for playing. Come back when you actually know what the hell you are talking about.

Anonymous said...

Before the fall of the Soviet Union, East Germany, etc., one of the things they were both known and notorious for was asking people to fill out a form, place one part on the dash of their car and carrying another with them when doing things like fishing or recreating. Few people realize that Solzhenitsyn wrote an unpublished sequel to "Archipelago" which he tentatively titled "The Recreation Permit." Scholars of his work hope it will someday be published so that people will understand the dangers and not repeat the grievous mistakes of the past.

Anonymous said...

How will people be stopped from using fictitious names and other information? Will Part B require additional information that will help with identification? If you carry Part C with you must you also have I.D. to support Part C?

Anonymous said...

Is trash from the Rez, boaters roadside, shoreline ending up on the spillway?

The Green Glow-Worm Crowd said...

10:28 brings up a good point. I.D. requirements are inherently racist. But, so are fishing licenses (like a poll tax).

Meanwhile, the only person in Mississippi who can make you raise your trunk lid without a warrant is a game warden. Just in case you're trafficking in rotted gar from the spillway sandbar.

Anonymous said...

.." Very In-ter-est-ing"...

Anonymous said...

Let's Go Sigmund!

Anonymous said...

Well, not quite 6:08

Generally, the Fourth Amendment's protection against unlawful search and seizure makes arbitrary police car searches illegal. If the police search your car without your permission or a valid reason, they are violating your constitutional rights. Typically, an officer must have reason to believe a crime has been committed (such as a DUI) before searching your car.

Under the Fourth Amendment, courts generally give police more leeway to search a vehicle, rather than a home. Known as the "automobile exception" to the search warrant requirement, individuals have less of an expectation of privacy when driving a car. Furthermore, this exception is based on public safety concerns such as drunk driving or excessive speeding.

So, when can the police search your car? Under the following circumstances:

You have given the officer consent.
The officer has probable cause to believe there is evidence of a crime in your vehicle.
The officer reasonably believes a search is necessary to their own protection (a hidden weapon, for example).
The officer has a valid search warrant.
You have been arrested and the search is related to that arrest (such as a search for illegal drugs).

Anonymous said...

Still say put up Toll Booths and charge $1 each way. Split that between the Pearl River Valley Water Supply District, Madison/Ridgeland and Rankin/whatever city. People will pay and no drop in traffic either way will be noticed.

Anonymous said...

6:08 is off his her meds.....

Fix the Pipes and Fill the Potholes said...

"Badges?!?!... We don't need no steenkin' badges!!!"

WISEOWL said...

This is damn dumb. Will the Legislature let this stand? How much of the garbage comes from upstream:

Anonymous said...

@9:32 AM - very accurate, but you could have included "inventory search" pursuant to an arrest.

Anonymous said...

9:32, while I'm impressed with your ability to copy and paste, you are dead-ass wrong. A Mississippi Game Warden can search your vehicle with or without cause at any time of day or night on any property.

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