Wednesday, August 13, 2014

See what they said: True the Vote v. everyone.

Here is some political porn for the junkies out there.   This is the transcript for the True the Vote hearing held in federal court on July 24.  Catherine Engelbrecht's testimony begins on page 24. It's worth reading. It gets more interesting when MSGOP lawyer Mike Wallace begins his cross-examination at page 76 (see pages 85 and 86 as well.).  Hinds County attorney Pieter Teiwussen's cross beings at page 94 (read as well) and Rankin County attorney Craig Slay begins his cross on page 97.  Enjoy.


Anonymous said...

I'm much more concerned about p54 where she says TTV already has a list of 770 million American Voters. And, as her testimony continues, it's clear they have names, addresses, and birthdates in many cases. It's clear they are 3 Texans and a Georgian who acquired this personal information ( which testimony shows that Identity theft experts find shouldn't be available) simply by filling out a non-profit application.
So, without background checks, without any indication of how they secure access now or in the future to the information, they have this data on 770 million citizens.
We have only their " word" ( or hers) that should they disband or be replaced, none of them will ever sell or use that personal data for profit or to intimidate voters.
And, p 74 only adds to the concerns I have as it demonstrates how incompetent and untrustworthy these people are!
I do wish the judge had allowed testimony about their " fund raising". I understand why she did not, but I suspect it would have pointed to the lack of character of these 4 individuals!

Anonymous said...

"770 million American Voters."

Uh, excuse me, how many Americans are there in total (not just registered voters)? Where do these other come from?

Have you checked YOUR math?

Anonymous said...

There are 318,670,115 people in the United States of says Google.

I'm thinking they imported some voters from another planet....possibly Uranus.

Anonymous said...

@9:26, read the page the commenter cited. That's not his math, it is True The Vote which itself makes the dubious claim, under oath no less, to have the personal identifying information of 770 million voters in the United States.

But as we've seen with the McDaniels' campaign's repeated assertions that they have acquired (with TTV's willing assistance, evidently) incontrovertible proof of 25k incidents of voter fraud, now that the actual binders of its supposedly damning 'evidence' have been presented to the public, it's become painfully apparent that both TTV & the headcounters on Team McDaniels must have been students of Common Core math before Common Core Math was cool.

Anonymous said...

It's not MY p.54! That's why I referenced the page.

Thank y'all, but I actually knew our population was around 300 million.

I should have put quotes around the number each time.

Maybe it's a typo or my aging eyes playing tricks, and it's 170 million ( which is more than known but close) but read HER testimony in the transcript!

Anonymous said...

The sooner the Federal District Court rules and knocks this crap out, the better for Mississippi.

Anonymous said...

She testifies at the bottom of page 95 that the personin the Hinds County circuit clerks office showed her the SEMS database. Hinds County is one of the 7 counties in the state that doesn't use SEMS.

Kingfish said...

Hinds uses SEMS.

Anonymous said...

I just finished reading the transcript.

Democracy for Sale. Unless you can steal it at a better price.

I wonder what the dollar value is for that database in the hands of the highest bidder, and what's the most egregious, unethical way that it can be misused... because we might be finding out soon.

I know Judge Atlas was thinking out loud about her personal concerns and the statutory arguments she wanted addressed in briefs, etc. The fact that she is seriously contemplating a decision in favor of G.Phillips and his bunch of crooks sends a chill up my spine, even if TTV already has "770M" voter info files in their database.

Thanks Dear Leader Mack Daniel, for providing the diversion to give cover while the crooks rob the bank.

Here is the TeaBagger Mississippi Allah working in cahoots with a another band of 503(c) grifters (TTV) just like himself, trying to usurp "States Rights" by subverting a Mississippi law which was written to protect the common good of ALL Mississippi citizens by arguing for the misapplication of NVRA.

McD the Hypocrite makes me sick.

Anonymous said...

Kingfish needs to request a copy of True the Vote's 990 and publish it here.

Anonymous said...

12:16 am Your point is well taken with me.

That these people have this data is very frightening.

10 to 18 cents a name is standard just for names and addresses and then you add costs for the people delivering the list and you can get that up to 50 cents to a dollar in the legitimate market.

Add in the birthdates and you really add value in the legitimate market. Then, the buyer has a list where they can target markets by age.

If you want to steal an identity or target the homes of people known to be wealthy or sell identities to those who need one, the list is worth whatever the buyer is willing to pay and there will be more than one buyer!

It's pretty upsetting to go on the Internet and see the information for sale from legitimate sources.

But, that these people have my information is far more bothersome. They clearly are people for whom the end justifies the means. They don't care how much damage they do to anyone, how many lies they tell, how much money they get from people who can't afford it as long as it furthers their cause.

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