Jackson Jambalaya

Does McDaniel work for Childers? How can one "true conservative" not see how poisonous he is to the GOP?

Chris, no one wants Miss Congeniality to wear the crown.

If McDaniel has had 8000+ illegal votes that he could prove are illegal, then why all the law suits?

Is it that he has names of 8000+ Democrats who crossed over and is going with the claim on his misinterpretation of the GOP rule?

Even if one interpreted the rule the way he suggests, then how would someone ever be able to change parties? How many years in a row would a Democrat have their vote not count to prove they had a change of heart?

How does one prove that someone who isn't a member of any Democratic or Republican organization and who hasn't contributed to any campaign is a party member?

And, if your only contribution to a campaign was to a relative or close friend and you liked the person but weren't a loyalist, are you condemned forever to vote only in one party's primary?


I'm beginning to think what the Tea Party people are trying to establish, whether it be deliberate or unwittingly is what is being called " Putinism". That is a system that is capitalistic, focused on one religion, with a democratic vote controlled by rules and laws making one party absolute. Some academics have been calling such a system an "illegitimate democracy". Putin is the poster for where this eventually leads.

Sooner or later 7:22 PM you'll spew out something that might stick. Putinism? Get real.

Well baby bow your head and close your eyes. McDaniel and his team are going to need all the prayer they can get . They will never get another bill voted on in the a State Senate again. And Lord why were you playing with the emotions of poor Chris telling that boy he was the Senator? Now Lord bless the starving people and rain $100 bills down on us. Glory .

"Pray for wisdom for all involved. "

Indeed

7:56 am
Read about Putinism.
You actually don't know what it is.
You know who the man is and what he's doing in the moment, but you haven't read one thing about how he structured the Russian government when no one was paying attention to anything save the economics.
Freedom is just as often lost in a thousand small cuts and one big slash or doesn't history teach you anything?

I don't know about putinism, but the tea party is an extremist group. They say the goal is to elect "true conservatives" a designation that only they can determine. They readily admit that they will vote for Childers or abstain from voting in November if Chris is not on the ballet. Thus, in order to achieve their goal of only "true conservatives" they are willing to see a democrat elected rather than a conservative that isn't one of them. It's like a perverse form if cronyism.

Did they forget to pray for an outright victory?

Challenge won't make it to court.

9:33: No, because that would be improperly invoking the name of the Almighty for partisan gain.

"Pray that those who have no fear of the Lord will have no voice"

A very telling statement from this camp of self-proclaimed (and very self-rightous)scholars and defenders of democracy and the U.S. Constitution.It sounds more theocratic than democratic, exclusive rather than inclusive.

"Pray for repentance".

No problem with that. Except a nagging worry that with this crowd, the only adequate form of repentance would be to give them their way.

Um, is McDaniel insane? Seriously, has anyone checked? It is August 4, the general election is in 92 days. Chris, you aren't going to be on the ballet. I'm sorry. I wish I was a senator too.

Think the basis if the challenge will be rule 11? Because, if it is, why had he waited so long to file the challenge? He has been ranting about democrats voting in the runoff since the day after the runoff election.

Michael: Just spoke with the Almighty. He says for you and Chris to shut the f&%& up and quit using HIS name for your political gain.

"Pray that those who have no fear of the Lord will have no voice."

So if you're not a Christian, you have no voice? Put your money where your mouth is and sponsor a bill taking away the right of all non-christians to vote or the right to petition the government. See where that gets you. These guys are scary and need to crawl back under the rock they came from. Better yet, dust off your Taliban membership card.

Michael: HE also said you may be coming down with boils pretty soon.

Tyner to McDaniel just before the press conference: "The Almighty tells me he can get me out of this mess, but he's pretty sure you're f***ed"

Too bad Tyner doesn't have an Irish accent.

You thad trolls seem awful anxious to sweep this under the rug. What are you so afraid of? And to you 11:49PM, the GOP is DOA. This have everything to do with the GOP establishment getting bed with the socialist democrat party and having abandoning true core conservative values and principles. Uncle Thaddeus stole the election with corrupt tactics by buying black votes. See you in court and you are welcome to vote for childers.

10:55 a.m.
The legal challenge cannot be based on Rule 11 because it is not legally binding in the state party in terms of the nominee of the state party. Rule 11 deals only with RNC recognition of the nominee, but has no legal effect on the state party's nomination as such. Rule 11 is not a law.

I wonder if Chris will be signing head-shots after the news conference?

This is an extremist, cult-like group of people, led by McDaniel, playing upon the emotions of their followers, hiding behind God and religion. Can anybody say, Jim Jones?????

11:55 You are so right and they are a very radical group.

To KF and the press: if Kool-aid is handed out at the presser, don't drink it.

On the Prayer Request I noticed that Watson left Senator Cochran and his wife Rose and their children off the list. I am sure that this is a complete over sight on his part.
I had a judge friend one time that was hearing a case that concerned a divided church group and an orphanage. His remarks to me was that " no one can hate as deep and as hard as good Christian people'. Think those words are good for this problem.

Get used to the term in para materia, 20
Days and time barred.

Too bad it's no longer supposed to rain this afternoon, would have loved to see McDaniel do that walking walking on water trick. Maybe he will change water into Kool Aid instead.

If God didn't speak to 50% plus 1 of the voters that showed up on election day, then I question who it was whispering in Chris' ear. He might as well be claiming to be Moses.

Chris, Moses never saw the promised land. You sir are not Moses.

OK, you win McDaniel. Uncle. You got more Republicans to pull the lever for you than Cochran did. You're absolutely right about the Democrats putting Cochran over the line in the run-off. But guess what? IT DOESN'T FREAKING MATTER. He got more votes than you did, no matter where they came from. One voter, one vote, one voice. Every single vote is exactly equal to every other vote. That's the point of a SECRET ballot you moron. More people (of every description) wanted him than wanted you.

Too bad Copiah County didn't ask for the names, addresses and DOBs of everyone who filed one of those silly 'incident reports' with TtV. I suspect the people filing the reports wouldn't be too happy about that.

Joe Nosef mentioned a 1959 MS Supreme Court case at the Capitol Press forum today that would seem to limit a challenge to 20 days after primary (July 14)

Aug 4 @ 2:18pm
Any idea on case name or cite?

§ 23-15-921. County, county district, legislative offices


"Except as otherwise provided by Section 23-15-961, a person desiring to contest the election of another person returned as the nominee of the party to any county or county district office, or as the nominee of a legislative district composed of one (1) county or less, may, within twenty (20) days after the primary election, file a petition with the secretary, or any member of the county executive committee in the county in which the election was held, setting forth the grounds upon which the primary election is contested; and it shall be the duty of the executive committee to assemble by call of the chairman or three (3) members of said committee, notice of which contest shall be served five (5) days before said meeting, and after notifying all parties concerned proceed to investigate the grounds upon which the election is contested and, by majority vote of members present, declare the true results of such primary"

115 So2d 147

"Our undertaking is much bigger than one U.S. Senate race. "

Uh oh.

Well maybe they'll undo that Mabus election too. Come to think of it--since time is no object--I gotta whole list.

For those of you who don't have psalm 37 memorized (myself included) that is the one about "the meek shall inherit the earth" , which starts out like this: "Fret not thyself because of evildoers..."

Fundamentally it is a pessimistic verse, which talks about wicked people who prosper anyways (here on earth), but promises that such folks will eventually be judged (after death or Revelations).

2:08 wrote -- "He got more votes than you did, no matter where they came from. One voter, one vote, one voice. Every single vote is exactly equal to every other vote."

We all agree with your ideas here, except for the part about "no matter where they came from". If they came from people who ALREADY voted, then that would make those illegal-double-voters, eh? If they came from people that were PAID to vote, that would make them illegal-bribed-voters. The same logic applies to people illegally voting who were dead, foreigners, felons, made up from whole cloth, and so on, of course (I don't believe any of these categories are issues in this election specifically however). Are you *sure* you want to take the stance, that where the votes came from literally makes no difference? Talk about Putinism! (Stalin was fond of saying that it only matters who COUNTS the final number of "ballots", not who casts the actual ballots.)

There is also the question, of how exactly voters were encouraged to vote, and why they did what they did. The adverts from PACs affiliated with team Cochran were very specific: vote against McDaniel because he is a racist and the tea party wants to keep minorities from voting. Those are horrid lies, which go way beyond the "acceptable norm" for lying in political campaigns. It drives people to vote out of fear, and hatred. Is that the kind of campaign tactic you want to see, going forward?

By way of contrast, it was pretty laughable when folks said McDaniel was a big fan of government debt ... basically a lie ... and also pretty laughable when folks said that Cochran was anti-gun ... also basically a lie. But falsely calling somebody a racist, and implying the same about ALL folks that support the tea party, is no laughing matter.

Basically, there are two ways to "win" an election: by having more people vote for you, because they like you and your ideas better. Alternatively, by scaring more people into voting against your opponent, by lying about them. Only the first way is legitimate. Only the first way is what a proper Republican party should advocate. If we don't draw a line in the sand here, then we will become like the other party: win at any cost, truth matters not.

Plenty of repubs voted for Cochran on 6/3 and on 6/24. Those people made an honest and legitimate choice, based on what they thought was a better approach for MS during the next six years. But there were also a lot of people who were tactically raiding the primary, always intending to support dem-Childers in November. Some of those people probably voted for tea-McDaniel, in the hopes that dem-Childers would have an easier time competing. Some of those people probably voted for estab-Cochran, seeing his policies as closer to the policies of dem-Childers, and picking the lesser of two weevils. But a significant number of crossover-voters were voting against tea-McDaniel out of fear that he was racist, based on lying attacks. That is not good!

Furthermore, hundreds to thousands of folks were voting in both the 6/3 d-prime, and then double-voting in the 6/24 r-runoff, which is not legal. There are also allegations that hundreds to thousands of people were bribed to vote, as well. Even worse!

But hard evidence is needed. That means, needed before anybody *discounts* the challenge. As well as before anybody guarantees the challenge will succeed. I urge folks to keep their emotions under control, and wait until we see what the evidence shows. Maybe there was only a smidgen of corruption, to paraphrase Obama on the IRS scandals, and the runoff results will stand, and McDaniel will concede. But maybe the evidence of deep and wide corruption will be so convincing that there will be a redo-runoff in September.

If there *is* a redo-runoff, the only people who will KEEP complaining, are the ones that think winning at any cost is a valid approach. Republicans are supposed to be better than that.

9:22 continues: "...They readily admit that they will vote for Childers or abstain from voting in November..."

Being slightly better than Pelosi is an *improvement* of course... but if wild spending is still driving us deeper into debt, and the Constitution continues to be nibbled away & heading to nothing, then the rate of dangerous decline is only slowed, not reversed. Still, tea-party supporters will also usually vote for the estab-repub, rather than the dem... unless of course the estab-repub campaign said they were racists who intended to keep minorities from voting... that is quite beyond the pale.

There is nothing extreme about insisting on a balanced federal budget, and further insisting that it be balanced by cutting spending (NOT by raising taxes on anybody... which is why the acronym means Taxed Enough Already). If you think there *is* something extreme about these goals, then you are probably the extremist, sorry to say. That is not to say that the cuts won't be painful and politically difficult; they will, which is why tea-party candidates must be willing to stand firm against opposition.

Cuts are urgent, and undoubtedly necessary; delay too long, and the peak entitlement-crunch of the 2030s will be upon us. It will take at least a decade to prepare ourselves fiscally, which means 2014 and 2016 and 2018 and 2020 are the key elections of the next couple decades. If we fail to significantly reduce federal debt (from ~100%gdp down to ~20%gdp) and federal spending (from ~25%gdp down to ~15%gdp) during the 2020s, then in the 2030s we will prolly simultaneously default on trillions and trillions of bucks, and not-so-coincidentally may see WWIII as a direct result of the international economic collapse caused by a superpower-default. We really really really don't want to go there.

As for the claims (by a small vocal subgroup of tea-supporters) that they would rather stay home in November, or even vote for Childers, than to pull the lever for Cochran after the way the 6/24 runoff campaign went... well, that sentiment is entirely based upon the WAY in which the runoff-campaign was run. Henry Barbour flat out said, in his July interview published by Quin Hillyer, that the tea party intends to keep minorities from voting. If that is how the team was able to "win" then do not be surprised if unity seems hard to find. Similarly, it will be very tough for McDaniel to earn the votes of *some* repubs that voted for Cochran... unless he can prove, with hard evidence, that team Cochran was deeply involved in anti-Republican activities such as encouraging illegal-double-voting or bribery or similar.

I am sad to predict that many of the folks commenting here, with angry and emotional language, are going to be the same folks who refuse to support McDaniel, even if there should be enough evidence to force a redo-runoff. (cf Murkowski'10) I would like to be proven wrong, and see the legitimate nominee of the Republican party -- whichever one that turns out to be! -- get the support of both groups in November, once the investigation of the runoff-result is PROVEN (one way or the other). But I think it will take a lot of de-emotionalization for that to happen, and time is already short.