Nashville Police released a video of police officers taking down a trans terrorists who massacred three children and three adults at a Christian school yesterday. The video is posted below. Shoutout to the cops who did what the Uvalde cowards didn't do. Good job, guys.
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Trollfest '09
Trollfest '07 was such a success that Jackson Jambalaya will once again host Trollfest '09. Catch this great event which will leave NE Jackson & Fondren in flames. Othor Cain and his band, The Black Power Structure headline the night while Sonjay Poontang returns for an encore performance. Former Frank Melton bodyguard Marcus Wright makes his premier appearance at Trollfest singing "I'm a Sweet Transvestite" from "The Rocky Horror Picture Show." Kamikaze will sing his new hit, “How I sold out to da Man.” Robbie Bell again performs: “Mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be Bells” and “Any friend of Ed Peters is a friend of mine”. After the show, Ms. Bell will autograph copies of her mug shot photos. In a salute to “Dancing with the Stars”, Ms. Bell and Hinds County District Attorney Robert Smith will dance the Wango Tango.
Wrestling returns, except this time it will be a Battle Royal with Othor Cain, Ben Allen, Kim Wade, Haley Fisackerly, Alan Lange, and “Big Cat” Donna Ladd all in the ring at the same time. The Battle Royal will be in a steel cage, no time limit, no referee, and the losers must leave town. Marshand Crisler will be the honorary referee (as it gives him a title without actually having to do anything).
Meet KIM Waaaaaade at the Entergy Tent. For five pesos, Kim will sell you a chance to win a deed to a crack house on Ridgeway Street stuffed in the Howard Industries pinata. Don't worry if the pinata is beaten to shreds, as Mr. Wade has Jose, Emmanuel, and Carlos, all illegal immigrants, available as replacements for the it. Upon leaving the Entergy tent, fig leaves will be available in case Entergy literally takes everything you have as part of its Trollfest ticket price adjustment charge.
Donna Ladd of The Jackson Free Press will give several classes on learning how to write. Smearing, writing without factchecking, and reporting only one side of a story will be covered. A donation to pay their taxes will be accepted and she will be signing copies of their former federal tax liens. Ms. Ladd will give a dramatic reading of her two award-winning essays (They received The Jackson Free Press "Best Of" awards.) "Why everything is always about me" and "Why I cover murders better than anyone else in Jackson".
In the spirit of helping those who are less fortunate, Trollfest '09 adopts a cause for which a portion of the proceeds and donations will be donated: Keeping Frank Melton in his home. The “Keep Frank Melton From Being Homeless” booth will sell chances for five dollars to pin the tail on the jackass. John Reeves has graciously volunteered to be the jackass for this honorable excursion into saving Frank's ass. What's an ass between two friends after all? If Mr. Reeves is unable to um, perform, Speaker Billy McCoy has also volunteered as when the word “jackass” was mentioned he immediately ran as fast as he could to sign up.
In order to help clean up the legal profession, Adam Kilgore of the Mississippi Bar will be giving away free, round-trip plane tickets to the North Pole where they keep their bar complaint forms (which are NOT available online). If you don't want to go to the North Pole, you can enjoy Brant Brantley's (of the Mississippi Commission on Judicial Performance) free guided tours of the quicksand field over by High Street where all complaints against judges disappear. If for some reason you are unable to control yourself, never fear; Judge Houston Patton will operate his jail where no lawyers are needed or allowed as you just sit there for minutes... hours.... months...years until he decides he is tired of you sitting in his jail. Do not think Judge Patton is a bad judge however as he plans to serve free Mad Dog 20/20 to all inmates.
Trollfest '09 is a pet-friendly event as well. Feel free to bring your dog with you and do not worry if your pet gets hungry, as employees of the Jackson Zoo will be on hand to provide some of their animals as food when it gets to be feeding time for your little loved one.
Relax at the Fox News Tent. Since there are only three blonde reporters in Jackson (being blonde is a requirement for working at Fox News), Megan and Kathryn from WAPT and Wendy from WLBT will be on loan to Fox. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both and a torn-up Obama yard sign will entitle you to free drinks served by Megan, Wendy, and Kathryn. Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required. Just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '09 is for EVERYONE!!!
This is definitely a Beaver production.
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Wrestling returns, except this time it will be a Battle Royal with Othor Cain, Ben Allen, Kim Wade, Haley Fisackerly, Alan Lange, and “Big Cat” Donna Ladd all in the ring at the same time. The Battle Royal will be in a steel cage, no time limit, no referee, and the losers must leave town. Marshand Crisler will be the honorary referee (as it gives him a title without actually having to do anything).
Meet KIM Waaaaaade at the Entergy Tent. For five pesos, Kim will sell you a chance to win a deed to a crack house on Ridgeway Street stuffed in the Howard Industries pinata. Don't worry if the pinata is beaten to shreds, as Mr. Wade has Jose, Emmanuel, and Carlos, all illegal immigrants, available as replacements for the it. Upon leaving the Entergy tent, fig leaves will be available in case Entergy literally takes everything you have as part of its Trollfest ticket price adjustment charge.
Donna Ladd of The Jackson Free Press will give several classes on learning how to write. Smearing, writing without factchecking, and reporting only one side of a story will be covered. A donation to pay their taxes will be accepted and she will be signing copies of their former federal tax liens. Ms. Ladd will give a dramatic reading of her two award-winning essays (They received The Jackson Free Press "Best Of" awards.) "Why everything is always about me" and "Why I cover murders better than anyone else in Jackson".
In the spirit of helping those who are less fortunate, Trollfest '09 adopts a cause for which a portion of the proceeds and donations will be donated: Keeping Frank Melton in his home. The “Keep Frank Melton From Being Homeless” booth will sell chances for five dollars to pin the tail on the jackass. John Reeves has graciously volunteered to be the jackass for this honorable excursion into saving Frank's ass. What's an ass between two friends after all? If Mr. Reeves is unable to um, perform, Speaker Billy McCoy has also volunteered as when the word “jackass” was mentioned he immediately ran as fast as he could to sign up.
In order to help clean up the legal profession, Adam Kilgore of the Mississippi Bar will be giving away free, round-trip plane tickets to the North Pole where they keep their bar complaint forms (which are NOT available online). If you don't want to go to the North Pole, you can enjoy Brant Brantley's (of the Mississippi Commission on Judicial Performance) free guided tours of the quicksand field over by High Street where all complaints against judges disappear. If for some reason you are unable to control yourself, never fear; Judge Houston Patton will operate his jail where no lawyers are needed or allowed as you just sit there for minutes... hours.... months...years until he decides he is tired of you sitting in his jail. Do not think Judge Patton is a bad judge however as he plans to serve free Mad Dog 20/20 to all inmates.
Trollfest '09 is a pet-friendly event as well. Feel free to bring your dog with you and do not worry if your pet gets hungry, as employees of the Jackson Zoo will be on hand to provide some of their animals as food when it gets to be feeding time for your little loved one.
Relax at the Fox News Tent. Since there are only three blonde reporters in Jackson (being blonde is a requirement for working at Fox News), Megan and Kathryn from WAPT and Wendy from WLBT will be on loan to Fox. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both and a torn-up Obama yard sign will entitle you to free drinks served by Megan, Wendy, and Kathryn. Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required. Just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '09 is for EVERYONE!!!
This is definitely a Beaver production.
Note: Security provided by INS.
Trollfest '07
Jackson Jambalaya is the home of Trollfest '07. Catch this great event which promises to leave NE Jackson & Fondren in flames. Sonjay Poontang and his band headline the night with a special steel cage, no time limit "loser must leave town" bout between Alan Lange and "Big Cat"Donna Ladd following afterwards. Kamikaze will perform his new song F*** Bush, he's still a _____. Did I mention there was no referee? Dr. Heddy Matthias and Lori Gregory will face off in the undercard dueling with dangling participles and other um, devices. Robbie Bell will perform Her two latest songs: My Best Friends are in the Media and Mama's, Don't Let Your Babies Grow up to be George Bell. Sid Salter of The Clarion-Ledger will host "Pin the Tail on the Trial Lawyer", sponsored by State Farm.
There will be a hugging booth where in exchange for your young son, Frank Melton will give you a loooong hug. Trollfest will have a dunking booth where Muhammed the terrorist will curse you to Allah as you try to hit a target that will drop him into a vat of pig grease. However, in the true spirit of Separate But Equal, Don Imus and someone from NE Jackson will also sit in the dunking booth for an equal amount of time. Tom Head will give a reading for two hours on why he can't figure out who the hell he is. Cliff Cargill will give lessons with his .80 caliber desert eagle, using Frank Melton photos as targets. Tackleberry will be on hand for an autograph session. KIM Waaaaaade will be passing out free titles and deeds to crackhouses formerly owned by The Wood Street Players.
If you get tired come relax at the Fox News Tent. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both will entitle you to free drinks.Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required, just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '07 is for EVERYONE!!!
This is definitely a Beaver production.
Note: Security provided by INS.
There will be a hugging booth where in exchange for your young son, Frank Melton will give you a loooong hug. Trollfest will have a dunking booth where Muhammed the terrorist will curse you to Allah as you try to hit a target that will drop him into a vat of pig grease. However, in the true spirit of Separate But Equal, Don Imus and someone from NE Jackson will also sit in the dunking booth for an equal amount of time. Tom Head will give a reading for two hours on why he can't figure out who the hell he is. Cliff Cargill will give lessons with his .80 caliber desert eagle, using Frank Melton photos as targets. Tackleberry will be on hand for an autograph session. KIM Waaaaaade will be passing out free titles and deeds to crackhouses formerly owned by The Wood Street Players.
If you get tired come relax at the Fox News Tent. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both will entitle you to free drinks.Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required, just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '07 is for EVERYONE!!!
This is definitely a Beaver production.
Note: Security provided by INS.
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Tremendous job gentlemen, that is how it's supposed to be done.
Thank God for those heroic police.
Good fucking job.
That ain't the way we do it back in Uvalde.
When the Left/Democrats/BLM say defund the police send them this video. The blue line is the only thing that keeps us from chaos and danger. Look at Portland, Washington & Jackson, MS to see dysfunctional cities.
Highest praise for the Nashville Police!!!!!!
America has an incel problem more than a gun problem.
This creature was an outcast who returned to the place they were first treated like an outcast.
Not only Uvalde but remember "the coward of Broward?"
12:44....and because she got her feelings hurt she is justified in killing 6 innocent people who were not even there when she declared that she was treated like an "outcast"? GIVE ME A BREAK YOU BLEEDING HEART LIBERAL!!!!
Have we heard any libtards yet say excessive force? I'm sure it's coming...only because he/she was confused and victimized.
I get so sick of the same BS$%& like below-
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cotton-slams-jean-pierres-shameful-comment-blaming-republicans-nashville-christian-school-shooting
They went a little too easy on her.
Those are full grown men behind those body-cams. I They put their life on the line everyday to keep us safe. All I can say is THANK YOU!
12:44 is right. The increasing number of angry, useless incel's is more worrisome to me than automatic rifles.
God bless these men and their bravery.
The pronoun brigade could never.
12:44; there are many outcasts. Most of them don't kill innocent children. Being an outcast is no excuse.
If you really want to back “The Blue” you would support reasonable gun laws! Nobody wants to take away your Pistol or your hunting rifle Bubba! Ask any Police Chief or Sheriff he would tell you that’s what would really help to keep them safe! Just Ask the ones right here in Mississippi, some will dodge the question for political reasons, but most would agree banning semi automatic rifles is where we start.
Job damn well done...
Agreed 1:56! Time for reasonable and cooler heads to prevail on the subject. I am not a liberal, but I am a person that knows that enough is enough. There are mass shootings nearly every day in this country!
1:56-- You are an absolute loon.
1:56 I don't disagree. I have never opposed sensible gun laws in the past.
But there are no longer sensible leaders in place. So pardon me and my mistrust of the team that brought us Fauci, Hillary or Trump for that matter.
Laws don't prevent criminals from doing anything.
We have seen governmental proclivities to weaponize the IRS an FBI etc.
Why would I trust them to not use gun laws against decent citizens and constitutional infringement?
Why are inanimate objects held to a higher level of blame that the mentally ill people using them?
They brought this distrust on themselves.
By people that previously made fun of the tin foil hat crowd.
@1:56 - Total BS
Another day, another school shooting. Next
A semi-auto is what brought this to conclusion instead of 3 hots and a cot for 50 years.
This dickless wonder would have carried out his/her goal regardless of a ban on a particular type of firearm.
I've never been LEO & didn't do military service, but that looked nice and tight to me. Dudes did their job not knowing what they were going to face, cleared rooms as they went, and kept advancing. That looks to be some exceptional police work to me. Good job, Nashville PD!
Those are the kind of cops who give bad cops a good name.
You can call 1:56 anything you want but none of you would like what your most conservative peace officers would say and you’re afraid to ask! Just as he said they aren’t talking about and bands on personal protection on hunting . The guns we are finding on the street these days to commit most crimes are neither.
1:56…how about we just enforce the existing laws? Your presumption of “most would agree” is totally inaccurate.
It never should have happened. That was a gun free zone.
1:56PM, why would you think more laws would stop anything. Do you realize the president of this country has a child that has broken several gun laws? If the son of the president of the U.S. and the president, himself, do not obey the gun laws why would you expect anyone else to obey them?
I see the loons are attacking 1:56, because MAH FREEDUMB!
1:56 - I ain’t playing the gun control is the only thing we can discuss. When we are ready to look at all the pharmaceuticals being pumped into these killers, then I’ll believe that people are serious.
When guns are outlawed, ONLY OUTLAWS WILL HAVE GUNS (and the ruling class).
ok. Take all the guns away today. Shut down all dealers. Make it a crime to possess a firearm. What part of that stops the criminal? Swift punishment is the only deterrent. We coddle criminals. If he/she/it had survived, summary execution next week by hanging. These creatures caught on video executing innocents should have no rights. Say what you will about other societies but those with swift justice keep the criminals on the run
@1:56 - Do you have any reliable back up to your claims or is that just some wild-assed speculation from you based on what you've heard down at Starbuck's on random Sunday mornings in July?
(at the patio tables, while on laptop, of course
Any discussion about guns brings out the Biden/Obama voting anti-Second Amendment progressive wokesters - g-u-a-r-a-n-t-e-e-d
Good Job, Brothers....that's the way it should be done.
The Second Amendment ain't about personal protection or sporting uses. It's about being prepared for war against soldiers of an oppressive government.
1:56 = 3:13
The funny thing about "banning" assault style weapons is, how do you go about implementing said ban? Go house to house and have government agents search every house? Have a day where everyone "voluntarily" brings their guns to the government for disposal?
No politician in their right mind would go for that.
Now, to the real problem. Mental illness is rampant in this country and so many people go untreated for their conditions. Sure, things have gotten better in the treatment of mental illnesses but we have a long way to go. However, we as a society do ourselves no favors when we use Facebook, Tiktok, et.al. for the majority of our daily interaction with other humans. This is a copy cat of every other mass shooting because I truly believe it would only take someone with a pure evil bent (see Columbine) to do this type of thing.
May God help us all.
2:11 "1:56-- You are an absolute loon."
Hate to tell you, but you're the loon! Definition of Insanity: Keep doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
How many innocent people, including precious children, have to be murdered before something is changed????
I am not a liberal.
I am a gun owner.
@3:26 I dare you ask you local county sheriff straight up, no what ifs. The existing laws don’t do enough!
He doesn’t want to take your gun, but he sure would like to keep them out of criminals and wackos hands.
The LEO did their job, but the fact is 6 innocent lives were lost. These guys aren’t proud hero’s . They are sad victims of the trauma they witnessed. Talk to a cop who has had to kill in the line of duty. Some can’t even return to work.
The only flaw I saw in the JPD's response to the whole episode was:
1) The shooter messaged a friend she was going to "do something" dramatic, that day.
2) When the recipient saw the mail/text she immediately called 911 and they told her IT WAS NOT AN EMERGENCY and she should call the routine policenumber.
3) That number put her on hold for about 14 minutes.
4) Once she got through they started their response, which happened rapidly and smoothly.
Imagine what could have been prevented if they had listened to her when she first called.
My daughter got married in that church 3 years ago. It was eerie to see the pew we sat in then with grieving friends and relatives in front of it yesterday.
2:29PM wut?
1:56 You can pass all the laws you want to but the criminals don’t go by laws obviously looking at Jackson for one. I don’t trust the government not to use said laws against the law abiding besides isn’t there already laws now that aren’t being enforced?
@1:54
You are correct.
Not every outcast is a mass shooter.
But every mass shooter is an outcast.
March 28, 2023 at 4:37 PM, what do you suggest being changed?
That was a huge building. Those guys did really well to find the shooter that fast. Had the shooter been moving, this could have gone on a lot longer.
Wonderful display of men at work, unlike the wanna be man they killed.
We have a few on this board that think more gun laws will fix this problem. There's no defense against the lone wolf killer. Someone that is determined to kill, will kill.
I will meet the libtards halfway. I will support these so-called stricter “universal background checks” if they will repeal the NFA or at least open the machine gun registry to newly manufactured full autos. Yep, I will support the gun control becoming exactly like the NFA process, if it means we can all buy cheap full autos.
Right now the NFA means only rich people can buy machine guns because no new transferable machine guns can be registered. So we are left paying $50k or more for the existing supply of pre-1986 weapons. That means only rich people can afford machine guns. And they certainly have them too!
I want a legal machine gun! The criminals already have modified illegal machine guns!
March 28, 2023 at 1:56 PM
>We're not looking to ban your guns we're just looking to ban all guns
Hint moron all guns are semi-automatic. Including bolt actions.
More dead school kids. Their sacrifice should be celebrated by all the gun folks. These are the people that paid the ultimate price for your hobby. Next time you go shooting, take a moment to think of the price they paid and make sure your enjoyment of the sport is worth the sacrifice of those lives.
4:37 I still say you're looney. A gun, most likely a semi-auto, put the evil monster down and saved further loss of life. Go check your weekly med box for empties.
There’s a few options that could slow down the flood of school shootings.
1. Place metal detectors and body scanners at the entrance of every school. Require every person who enters to be scanned or have their body searched just like in airports. This would need to be manned 24/7 to prevent after hours staff and students in extracurricular activities from bringing guns onto the property. This would also require large fencing similar to prisons to be placed around schools to prevent contraband from entering other ways.
2. Ban schools
3. Ban guns
That seems like the 3 options, let me know if there’s any other ideas that could actually stop school kids from getting murdered so frequently.
If anyone had a better option, share What you think.
4:37 PM
You're not a gun owner. You're a FUDD. I will not give up my rights for you to 'feel' safe.
March 28, 2023 at 5:22 PM
https://twitter.com/LilBramwell/status/1282430563685548032/photo/1
If only Terry the Tranny had seen the "gun free zone" sign.s
March 28, 2023 at 5:22 PM, the blood of these children are on the hands of those that refuse to call mental illness, mental illness.
Looks like we have somebody in here talking to himself/herself/itself.
@ 5:32
That seems like the 3 options, let me know if there’s any other ideas that could actually stop school kids from getting murdered so frequently.
If anyone had a better option, share What you think.
Simple, get rid of gun free areas. If even a few of the school personnel had been armed, it might have ended even more quickly.
Only a really insecure man would want his gun to have more rights than his wife and daughter.
These men were successful because they had a bold leader, were all brave themselves and tactically adroit. As a team they advanced quickly yet methodically, and when they came upon the shooter moved on her without hesitation and quickly killed her. Damn good work all around.
Only an idiot would think an inanimate object has rights.
According to Nashville police, the Christian school wasn't the first choice of the mentally ill murderer. According to the shooter's own writings, her first choice had “too much security”.
It would probably be safe to say that “too much security” involved people with guns.
"most would agree banning semi automatic rifles is where we start"
How about we start with enforcing the laws we currently have? If that proves insufficient, we can add some more, once we actually know where the shortfalls are.
If the mentally ill are a problem, then we could require some type of medical certificate for a first-time buyer. If it's active substance abuse, which can mimic/induce mental illness, then maybe a clean urine screen from a clinic.
BUT, when repeat violent offenders are routinely released back into society, meth peddlers go home on their own recognizance, warrants don't get served, probation/parole violations mean nothing, and felons-in-possession are considered normal, then we really don't know where the holes in the dam are, do we?
BTW, any hunting rifle that doesn't require manual manipulation of the action to load the next cartridge is, by definition, a "semi-automatic rifle."
5:32: We could allow teachers to actually discipline children. The real problem child could be removed from the classroom, instead of repeatedly sent back by an administrator who thinks she's a social engineer. Kick the problem parents off the school property as well.
@7:59 - So more guns is the solution? That's pretty dumb. Try again.
@8:34 - I think the gun is the wife for a lot of these guys, that's why it's so personal.
Guns are the #1 killer of children. I wonder if Biden could use a public health emergency to outlaw guns like Trump did to make border policy changes.
Anyone who calls this mentally ill person who killed chidren she or her is capitulating to the slow descent into madness.
@ 4:18 - Which part of 'shall not be infringed' do you not understand?
Well...It's my bedtime. At last count, 1:56 has posted seven times.
I hate it for these families. We live in a $#!+y, fallen, sinful world. You can disguise it with butterflies and unicorns, but sin is sin, regardless of what you call it.
Those officers were well-trained, and it saved lives. Investment in police training pays off.
Analyze all school shootings over the past twenty five years, beginning with Pearl, MS.
Find the common denominator. It's guns, right? Wrong. It's mental illness.
Would any of these events have happened if there were no guns on the planet. Yes. All of them.
A mentally ill person intent on destroying his/her imaginary demons will find a hammer, sword, automobile, sharp stick, explosive device or cleaver.
Another common denominator, if I may - Unprotected, unsecured, unguarded buildings typically full of defenseless young people and women.
Anyone who values guns over children is rotten to the point of being past rational discussion. We have to quit worrying about how those assholes feel and just do the right and sensible thing.
@9:59 PM
You really, REALLY need to work on your reading comprehension. The Nashville mass shooter was born a female named Audrey Hale. The media and everyone who keeps calling her Audrey, and referring to her as a female, are being completely accurate.
@5:46 - so why are we the only country that experiences this phenomenon repeatedly? Is mental illnesses exclusive to our country? Also, why are all the unprotected building with children in other countries not routinely shot up? Your argument is asinine.
Australia showed us that banning guns after a mass shooting works. It apparently solved all the mental health issues in the country since that is the cause of all these shootings. It’s amazing how quickly banning guns managed to instantly fix all their mental health issues overnight. Maybe we should learn from that lesson for the sake of mental health. It’s pretty clear that all these snowflakes who cherish guns over the lives of school kids have some pretty twisted thoughts and maybe banning guns would fix them overnight here as well.
8:24 - 5:46 here. Rather than attack my position, why not state yours? Oh, wait! You've done that nine times already, confiscate and destroy guns.
You have obviously never heard of the Five-Whys analysis to problem solving. Here's a hanky - wipe that Kool Aid off your chin.
Shooter now identifies as was/were.
Murder of any kind is banned and illegal, yet here we are, in Jakson, MS, one of the top murder capitals of the country.
When guns are outlawed, only outlaws and the ruling class (and their taxpayer funded armed security) will have guns. It's a fact.
The answer to the problem is not less guns, it is more guns. There are a lot of crazy people running around out there. Just look at the number of mass shootings. We need something to protect ourselves. If you will notice all of the mass shootings are around people who do not have guns. We, the people, should have a way to shoot back at these people. At least give us an equal chance. All of the mass shootings have been stopped by people with guns. Just think how many shootings could have been prevented if there was someone there with a gun to stop the crazy people before they get a chance to shoot more people.
In response to 10:22, et. al.:
"Guns are the problem" and "guns are the solution" are two perspectives from the same viewpoint. Both are narrow and could have been written by the same person, depending on which side of the bed she he or she woke up on.
Focusing on firearms is a convenient way to avoid looking at the root causes of homicide. It also ignores the need to remove homicidal maniacs from society.
As much as some people want to do away with incarceration, the fact remains that homicidal maniacs have no place in civilized society. They must be treated in some way early to prevent them from becoming homicidal, or locked up when they become homicidal, if we are going to actually make a dent in this problem.
FWIW, it has been proven that juvenile illiteracy has a direct correlation to juvenile delinquency. Teaching kids to read would be a good start.
@8:56 - I'll be happy to provide a 5 whys analysis for you.
Problem: American school children are being murdered in school
Why? Mentally ill lunatics have easy access to murder weapons in the USA
Why? Republican voters value guns over children's lives
Why? They were brainwashed by politicians
Why? To advance the politicians power and influence
Why? To make them money
Go ahead and show yours.
@10:22 - Not all of the mass shooting have been stopped by police with guns. Many have been disarmed by victims ganging up on the assailant and physically removing the gun. Once the gun is removed the threat is over even though the mental illness is not cured. It's funny how that works, once the gun is gone so is the mass murder rampage.
Universal background checks for all gun purchases seems like a no-brainer.
Red flag laws that require medical and judicial systems to report incidents that should prevent gun ownership also seems like a no-brainer
Requiring guns to be registered to the user seems like a no-brainer.
Most gun owners I personally know are all for some sensible safeguards as they realize that as the school children's bodies continue to pile up, there will only be more drastic measures taken. At some point, this has got to be addressed with some common sense.
@ March 28, 2023 at 9:45 PM
Correction: Motor vehicle accidents are the #1 killer of children. I wonder if Biden could use a public health emergency to outlaw cars and trucks.
Europe is mostly a gun-free zone. Why don't they have these mass murders? According to many here, they should have way more mass murders since there are less guns to stop them and yet that doesn't match up with the reality.
@12:12 - According to every source I’ve seen, it’s guns. Go ahead and post your source. Surely you didn’t just make up a lie to advance your false narrative.
Any organization responsible for looking after children that does not have a security plan with armed guards is irresponsible. In small settings, finances may dictate that the armed guards are people already employed.
Due to the decay and unraveling of our once mostly civilized country, the only answer to evil is to stop it with greater force. That means armed people with guns. Anyone who doesn’t believe that is brainwashed, not very bright, or both.
The arguments of the “assault weapon” would-be banners can be countered with one simple fact- before AR-15s and other “assault weapons” became prevalent, there were plenty of semi automatic weapons around. Any of these type of mass killings could be perpetrated with a surplus M1 Carbine, M1 Garand, Browning Auto-5, Remington 1100 or 870, or a multitude of other weapons. Even a lever action Henry from the 19th century and maybe a spare cap and ball revolver or two would do the job. Before recent modern times, the culture was more stable and moral. People just didn’t generally do things like this.
The answer is indeed more guns. Decent people out number the evil and crazy ones. What we need to change is the percentage of decent people who are armed. It won’t fix the culture and make the crazies and evil people quit doing crazy and evil things, but we can kill enough of them to maybe slow the rest down and make them think twice about trying such things.
As is usually the case, the answer to the problem is not a solution from the government. It’s on us.
@11:37 - so why are other countries that have similar rates of mental illness and illiteracy not seeing the same issues we are? Do you think a rampant gun culture is positive for this country’s citizens or a detriment.
We’ve already tried introducing more guns into society and yet the gun violence rate keeps going up. Why aren’t more guns helping? How many guns will have to be added before it starts trending in the right direction.
Jon Stewart did a good job of summarizing the gun argument with one of these snowflake gun worshipping politicians. It’s well worth the watch.
https://youtu.be/tCuIxIJBfCY
March 29, 2023 at 12:02 PM, give a link to where a school shooter was stopped by something other than a good guy with a gun. I'll wait.
There's one anti-gun nut posting here that is on the verge of a break-down. That same poster probably believes abortion isn't murder.
What a gut punch for the transgender community to watch the lamestream media, CNN for instance in their effort to not specifically refer to Hale's transgenderism, dismiss her gender status as simply that of an “emotional disorder”.
Or, has CNN merely tipped their corporate transgender disbelieving hand?
Gun arguments are boring
The most horrific mass shootings with the highest body counts have been were in Norway and New Zealand (Anders Breivik and Brentan Tarrant)
They’ve also had that insane truck massacre in Europe.
Japan had a mass murderer who used knives and gasoline to slaughter an entire building of employees at Kyoto Animation.
And don’t forget that Shinzo Abe was assassinated in Japan with a home made black powder shotgun in Japan. You can’t even buy an air rifle in Japan!
We tried adding armed guards to schools, turns out they don’t want to get shot dead and cower.
We tried banning books.
We tried banning drag shows.
We tried loosening carry laws.
We tried adding more guns to the population.
We’ve tried everything except the obvious solution because that would make some snowflakes lose their emotional support guns. Screw the snowflakes, we have to start putting some sensible gun laws into action and slow down this monsoon of violence that is growing larger everyday. It’s a sickness that has to be cut out.
So 11:57 says Republicans value guns over children's lives.
How does that reconcile with Democratic views on abortion?
I personally prefer not to paint with such a broad brush, but they whipped out the easel first.
"why are other countries that have similar rates of mental illness and illiteracy not seeing the same issues we are?"
If you actually have data, such as studies or statistical analysis, to support your underlying assumptions, prove provide links.
Specifically, what other countries have comparable rates of (specific) mental illnesses and (functional) illiteracy, and what are their per-capita homicide rates, compared with the U.S.
I'm not trying to give you a task I think you can't/won't complete. I'd honestly like to know how we actually measure up.
--11:37 a.m.
This conversation is a good analysis of the mindset in Missippi, I am not proud.
@3:13
Dr. John R. Lott, Jr. has done tons of research, he's an economist that started researching guns because the statistics being used didn't make sense. We rank very well, eliminate democrat run cities and we're amazing.
https://crimeresearch.org/
Just watched the vid - WOW! These Nashville police LEOs are pros! Unlike those donut eating Uvalde coward pigs.
The United States has a per-capita homicide rate of about 8 per 100,000. Mississippi has about 21 per 100K. Jackson has about 90 per 100,000.
If the root cause is firearms, then the number guns should correlate to the homicide rate. I find it hard to believe Jackson has more than 10 times the number of guns per person that the rest of the country.
On the other hand, Jackson has a terrible public school system, which graduates children who can't read or write, a broken criminal justice system, an understaffed police department, and a severely under-resourced mental health system.
So tell me again where we should start?
-11:37/3:13
March 29, 2023 at 3:46 PM, what I'm fixing to post is also part of the Missippi mindset, as you call it. We don't care how you feel about it.
According to many here, the solution to all our problems is to introduce more of the problem into the situation and it will clean itself up.
So the answer to opioid crisis must be to make heroine widely available.
The answer to the illegal immigration answer is to open the borders.
The answer to the obesity problem is more fast food options.
The answer to the national deficit is to ramp up our spending and borrow more.
The answer to healthcare prices is to charge more for insurance, surgeries, and pharmaceuticals.
The answer to the PERS funding is to provide more benefits to retirees.
The answer to Jackson’s problems are more people who think like Lumamba.
The answer to Jackson’s water problems are more leaks and less billing.
It seems a lot of you have never heard the saying you can’t have your cake and eat it too.
"March 29, 2023 at 12:02 PM, give a link to where a school shooter was stopped by something other than a good guy with a gun. I'll wait.
March 29, 2023 at 1:52 PM"
Virginia Tech - 33 Deaths, 23 Injured, Stung-Hiu Cho killed himself.
Sandy Hook - 28 Deaths, 2 injured, Adam Lanza killed himself.
Stonemason Douglas in Parkland, FL - 17 Deaths, 17 injured, Nokia's Cruz walked out of the school and went to get a drink and then to a McDonald's. He was later arrested.
Columbine - 15 Deaths, 21 Injured, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold killed themselves.
Red Lake - 10 Dead, 7 Injured - Jeff Wise killed himself.
11:57 - Your analysis is ridiculous.
Why? Simply because you started with your desired result and worked backwards.
Your bullshit would be acknowledged by others, quickly, in any legitimate five-Whys analysis. And you'd summarily be laughed off the podium as you attempt to keep the flip chart from hitting the floor.
@ 9:39 where are you 5?
@9:39 - I see you weren’t able to do one yourself. Go wipe the kool aid off your chin and get back to us when you can figure out how to.
Why is @9:39 unhappy with the example provided?
Because the result didn’t match his opinion?
Why?
Because he believes easy access to guns don’t lead to more gun violence.
Why?
Because he identifies as a right wing gun supporter.
Why?
Because he grew up in the uneducated South?
Why?
Because that’s where his parents raised him.
Looks like it’s your folks that left you in this unfavorable position. Blame them for you misguided and irrational thoughts.
Problem: American school children are being murdered in school
Why? Mentally ill lunatics will always exist and murder innocent people.
Why? Parents don't parent or address behavior issues in its infancy
Why? Society tells them the kid is just different and its evil to discourage 'different'
Why? People with no ethics or morals find comfort in numbers so they want more deviants.
Why? To make the mental illness they too possess, an accepted condition
Why are so many conservatives unwilling to take gun control measures?
Because they like to shoot guns.
Why?
Because it makes them feel like a man.
Why?
Because their lives are lacking in areas that typically provide this sense of self worth so they have to compensate in other areas.
Why?
Because their life skills weren’t developed well at an early age and they lack the necessary tools to succeed.
Why?
Because they were raised poorly and didn’t get enough acknowledgement and love from parents.
@10:33 - you would be laughed off the stage and probably would soil yourself from the embarrassment and ridicule. Why? Because you started with your conclusion and made the analysis fit to your preferred outcome.
Your very first answer misses the fact that school children in other countries aren’t being routinely massacred. Figure out why that is and get back to us with a reasonable analysis.
To 10:45, et. al.: I like to shoot guns and consider myself pretty liberal on most social issues. I would join the NRA, but I don't want to give a single dime to Wayne LaPierre, who seems to treat the organization like his alter ego.
One of the reasons I shoot my rifles is to hone my shooting skills to cleanly take deer, plus the shooting skills transfer to shotguns, which helps hunting waterfowl. Some of the reasons I like hunting are the fellowship of friends I don't otherwise get to see much, it gets me outdoors to see the sun rise, and I otherwise tend to get depressed in the winter without outdoor activities. Plus, my family and I like to eat wild game.
I also enjoy minor gunsmithing because I like to build stuff and its a challenge of precision to get a firearm functioning at its peak potential.
I support background checks and red flag laws. I also believe focusing solely on firearms misses the real problems. I think the current national dialogue on gun control oversimplifies complex issues (it's reductive), and is attractive because it gives the illusion of a solution with the stroke of a pen, and will actually accomplish nothing of substance except unintended consequences.
I'm sure personal attacks are the way to win people over to your side. But, you're not trying to convert people to your position.
Your self-esteem is such that you have to denigrate others to feel some form of self-worth. Bless your heart.
We live in a dangerous world, among the most dangerous predators on the planet. That predator is the human species. The history of that species shows a predilection to do evil, mostly by violent actions.
Only a naive, child like, person doesn't recognize the danger of their fellow predators, which your post does imply. This naïveté seems to be rampant in our current society. A pandemic of arrested development.
There are others that recognize the dangers of the world, and appreciate the effective self-defense provided by firearms. These people will never willingly give up their firearms, knowing the violent tendencies of their fellow humans.
The answer to end the school shootings is simple, have armed personnel patrol every school area. These schools hold the key to the future of the human race, our children, and should be guarded accordingly.
As long as there are humans, there will be a need for self-defense. The most effective weapon for self-defense is a firearm. The old saying is that GOD made man, and woman, Sam Colt made them equal. GOD bless Sam Colt.
@1:11 - the pot calling the kettle black. You start by claiming personal attacks are bad form and then proceed by personally attacking the poster for having low self esteem, being child-like, and naive.
Bless your hypocritical little heart.
@11:23 - and as a sensible gun owner, you seem willing to have common sense gun control like red flag laws and background checks. Why is that such an impossibility to pass even though the vast majority of people support them?
I agree that the cat is out of the bag with hundreds of millions of guns flooding our streets. Gun control won’t fix our issues overnight, but if we had taken some measures 20 years ago, we’d be much better off today than we currently are. If we take sensible measures today, we will be better off 20 years from now than we would be if nothing is done.
At some point, the reasonable minds have to realize having mass murders every day is not a reasonable outcome and do something about it. Turning schools into armed prison camps isn’t the solution.
“You start by claiming personal attacks are bad form”, see neighbor, I didn't mention anything about form, I was addressing winning people over to their side. That poster had no intention of changing minds, or changing sides. Maybe you have a reading comprehension problem.
That poster has been making a career of posting on this board denigrating gun owners, and people in general from Mississippi. People, perhaps even you, with arrested development seldom ever change their position on a topic.
Mature people periodically examine themselves, along with topics that are brought up for discussion, to ascertain the correctness of themselves, and said topics. That's what mature people do.
If you were able to comprehend the rest of my post, I stated very plainly my position on firearms for protection, there's nothing better. I also stated the length of time I would hold this position, as long as there are humans.
There's nothing hypocritical about my post. Bless your heart.
10:18, I agree with you. I really think the gun-kooks are only a small minority. They're just the most vocal. Also, I think there's a fear of opening a floodgate for the kooks on the other side to go way too far.
It can't be good for kids to live 8 hours a day under armed guard. The only answer to your question I can come up with is that Representatives have elections every two years, and we can't seem to pass any type of meaningful campaign finance reform. Plus there's this:
https://www.city-journal.org/the-narcissism-of-hyper-politicization
March 30 @ 11:23
@3:25 - take your own advice, be a mature human, and rethink your opinion instead of this “I also stated the length of time I would hold this position, as long as there are humans.”
Maybe you don’t understand what the definition of hypocritical is, but your post is a great example.
As you probably can’t understand, being a gun owner actually statistically increases your chances of being a victim of gun violence.
Bless your hypocritical little heart
April 3, 2023 at 9:38 AM, come here boo, boo, do you need a hug? Are those mean old gun owners hurting your feelings? Are they saying you don't know the meaning of certain words?
A hypocrite is someone that condemns people for doing the same things they do. You won't find that in my post, or in my life.
I'll take my chances with the firearm, neighbor. A statistic has never hurt anyone, to my knowledge. If you do some day find yourself in a confrontation with a human acting like an animal, you just quote them some statistics, I'm sure they will quickly run away.
As for me, I'm going to follow the golden rule, and double tap.
@5:10 - Yes, the mean old gun owners are hurting my feelings by mass murdering school children. Maybe you should feel something when that happens as any normal human being would. Clearly you are less than human. Maybe instead of needing a room full of guns in your safe space, you could just get a hug. You were able to correctly copy and paste the definition of a hypocrite, the next step is being able to understand it and apply it. You haven’t gotten there yet and you probably never will.
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