Tuesday, March 21, 2023

Trash Talk: Here We Go Again

And the Richard's Disposal hype machine begins.  This promotion appeared on the city of Jackson's Facebook page today.  



The Mayor is dead set on shoving his precious 96-gallon garbage carts down everyone's throats.   Notice what his little cartoon left out: 



Yup.  Using the Mayor's own math, the city would save $1.2 million per year if it accepted the Richard's Disposal proposal WITHOUT the garbage cart.  $1.2 million x 10 years = $12 million savings over 10 years if the cart-less option is selected.  



45 comments:

Anonymous said...

Which one of Lumumba's people would get the contract to supply the unwanted 96-gallon carts (at $1.2 million per year for 10 years)?

Anonymous said...

Antar and his review committee voted WM as having the “Best” proposal on the 2x week No cart option. That is why he is not even considering it and must go with the “with cart” option.

Anonymous said...

This circus has always been a scheme to sell giant trash buggies.

Anonymous said...

Apples to Oranges. This means absolutely nothing without current RFP ie a real current quote. Like saying Bruce Jenner should represent us in the decathalon. That was all in the past ….

Anonymous said...

What are they doing in Detroit?

Another Rim Shot said...

Chowke is putting the horse before the cart.

Professor X said...

I see a real opportunity here for young entrepreneurs. Steal garbage cans and either sell them back to the company or to the resident for $40. Richard’s charge to replace is $90.00

Anonymous said...

@4:00 PM - The R&C Cart Company, LLC (Rukia & Chowke)

Anonymous said...

Lil Choke could himself fit inside one of his rolling blue garbage garages and still have room to eat tofu and do his nails.
A handful in my neighborhood bought those big blue monsters yet only use them once a year: the first trash day after Christmas. Rest of the year, they use smaller size cans.

Complete waste of space and money.

Anonymous said...

@4:04 Exactly... Now the question is whether the average Jackson resident is smart enough to see through his BS. If I had a dollar for every time he regurgitated the same ole "we're getting more service for less money, right?" we'd have the garbage contract paid for by now. Not to mention all the wasted money going to attorney fees all because he thinks he is above the law. Bad look for the Mayor. Per usual.

Anonymous said...

Deceit and dishonesty, it is all the Lumumbas have left.

Anonymous said...

Are the Feds not investigating this? #1 The Mayor is insisting on giving the contract to RD, but why? #2 Why are the prices of RD that much cheaper than the other 2 bids? Something isn't passing the smell test.

Anonymous said...

3rd grade graphics and clipart

Anonymous said...

RDI will get this contract, no problem. Your right about the cans going missing. WM cans in Canton are going for $75 I hear. The one bedroom size Jackson will be using will easily get the $90 quoted earlier.

Anonymous said...

Chowke is putting the horse before the cart.

I doubt that, since the horse usually goes before the cart.

Anonymous said...

"Council fails"

Anonymous said...

Lol no competent company would ever agree to honor rates they quoted 2 years ago, let alone in the midst of generation-high inflation. Their margins would be shit and they would likely go bankrupt. The council should call the mayor's bluff and state publicly as soon as possible that they will agree to a long-term contract that would lock them in at the '21 rates. Zero chance Richards would actually agree to that.

Anonymous said...

The original RFP allows for rate increases based on CPI. So the new rate will likely be around 10% higher than those numbers. That is what Richards means when they say they don’t “waive any rights” from the RFP.

Anonymous said...

So, the cartless option would have residents putting out black plastic bags and buckets on the curb?

@9:58 - Never venture a bluff unless you're prepared for it to be called.

Anonymous said...

9:58 stop it! We all know there are no logical people left in Jackson!

I bet Richards/Chokwe is trying to get the emergency contract(again) and then back door the price increase...but what do I know?

Anonymous said...

If you've ever spent 10 minutes in the RFP/Bid world, you would know that 95% of the time, if you have two bids within $80k of each other, and the low bidder is $4.5mil low, that bid would have either been thrown out, or seriously looked at and most likely re-bid. Does anyone know if the city requires a payment and performance bond for this contract? Incompetence abounds in the City of Jackson.

Anonymous said...

Reminds me of Putin in Ukrane, if he is going to lose, he will go nuclear (meaning no pick up at all). In the meantime the propaganda machine is going strong.

Anonymous said...

If Richards is saving the City so much money, why did the sanitation charge per customer nearly double in October, 2022 and has not gone down since then?

Anonymous said...

The carts will be a shit show. Just like in Nola, all the carts will immediately get sprayed with graffiti everywhere in that “new radical city” style. The carts are a money maker for them.

Greasy palms abound said...

@9:13 AM That's the "vig."

Anonymous said...

@7:10 Not sure if you're serious but "cartless" is what we have now... just means 96 gallon carts aren't being included in the contract and residents would continue to use their current carts. This has seemed to work fine for as long as I can remember and while I'm sure uniform trash cans would look lovely, I'd personally rather use the perfectly good trash can I purchased less than 2 years ago as opposed to wrestling with a giant 96 gallon trash can, especially if we have twice weekly pickup.

The only time the 96 gallon can would make sense to me is if we went to once/week pickup and the garbage trucks used a "claw" to pick up the trash and dump it as opposed to having hoppers manually pick it up. Part of me wondered if that is what Richards was planning to do (and how they could afford the lowball bid without the need for 2 hoppers/truck), but they *claim* that residents would not be forced to use the 96 gallon bins, which would make the claw infeasible. Of course, I would not be shocked to see a bait and switch when it comes to requiring the 96-gallon cans.

Anonymous said...

"So, the cartless option would have residents putting out black plastic bags and buckets on the curb?"

AKA, stray dog and Racoon/Possum dinner.

Anonymous said...

The RDI proposal for 2x with cart is only $103,500 more than their proposal for 2x without cart. For 45,000 carts, that's only $2.30 per cart. But the proposal suggests they'll provide up to two carts per account for free. Even if they're planning to spread the cost out over the 6-year life of the contract, that's still only $13.80 per cart, assuming they never have to give out a replacement.

WM's cart quote is about $5.75 per cart for one year of the contract. That's more than double RDI's quote, and WM already has warehouses full of branded 96-gallon trash cans. They probably even have a sweetheart deal with a manufacturer that produces them for them.

Point being, how and where is RDI going to get carts at that price point?

Anonymous said...

How many bodies will the proposed cart hold? Asking for Al Capone's next of kin.

Anonymous said...

All I know is that Richard's has done a FAR better job and NEVER failed to remove 4' sticks and branches nor left litter on my street . Nor have I seen them throw trash cans and lids from the truck to the curbs.
Waste Management got worse and worse so by the end, I never knew what time of day they would come or whether they'd decide to take yard trimmings or not or how big a bag to pick up strewn trash I need in my late afternoon walk.
Y'all are doing political BS not trying to make sure we have the best service we can afford. And, most of you don't even live in Jackson. You've made THAT clear.
Mind your OWN business!

Anonymous said...

10:43 - those prices are per month. Not per year.

Anonymous said...

"Y'all are doing political BS not trying to make sure we have the best service we can afford. And, most of you don't even live in Jackson. You've made THAT clear.
Mind your OWN business!"

200% one of Chokwe's minions. I will let you figure out how I know.

Anonymous said...

@10:43 - you're looking at monthly costs, not annual. With cans for RDI is $105,500 more per month * 12 months * 6 or 10 years. I do question the accuracy of the mayor's projected costs in years 6-10.. if we get the 96 gallon trash cans in year 1, are we really thinking they will need to be replaced by year 6? The trash cans at my last house lasted forever. Seems like we'd be paying Richards extra $$ for nothing in years 6-10... might be part of the reason for the "low" bid.

Anonymous said...

@11:43 AM Safiya, you live in Ridgeland. Lol.

Anonymous said...

11:43, Jackson wants all the benefits of being the capitol city (the money and prestige), but none of the "drawbacks" (being accountable to the rest of the state).

The problem is a trust issue with a mayor who has proven to be a serial liar, and who always seems to have a dirty motive in everything he does. It seems like nothing can get done unless he or his people get a piece of it. In other places, that's called organized crime.

Anonymous said...

Richard's bid doesn't contain enough cushion for kickbacks.

Anonymous said...

The Chowke crime family is on top of this.

PittPanther said...

Why is Jackson so special that it needs twice per week trash pickup? I've lived in bigger cities, and much better cities, with once per week pickup. Yes, even hot, southern cities.
Twice per week is just a jobs program.

EFGAlterEgo said...

11:43 AM
Safiya as a Resident of Ridgeland I'd like you to live by your values and relocate to Jackson

Anonymous said...

How in the world could a family of (even) eight fill up those gigantic cans twice a week?

Imagine, if you will, driving through Jackson and seeing all those cans on the streets four days out of seven.

Anonymous said...

Google is your friend:

How many bags in a 96 gallon trash can?

This product is huge and has so much space to hold at least 6 full garbage bags with the lid completely closed.

Toter 96 Gal. Greenstone Outdoor Trash Can with Wheels and ...

Home Depot
https://www.homedepot.com › ... › Outdoor Tra

---------
And you're flat-out nuts if you believe residents of Jackson are going to purchase 35-40 gallon trash bags. Will those be 'gifted', like water?

Anonymous said...

It's clear those ( can't resist) "trashing" the 96 gallon can have never had one.
First of all, look at how much they cost if you buy your own...lots more than you get with a garbage service.
And, struggle? ROFL
I'm a 120 lb. old senior female with osteoporsis and can't open a jar or easily rise from a chair but I I can roll my 96 gallon when it's so full the lid won't completely close up and down a hill.
And, really good news, I usually only have to do that once a week, not twice.
Some of y'all are so afraid of change and react so fearfully, I'm surprised you don't still use a land line phone!

Anonymous said...

Please go actually look at garbage cans that roll and have attached lids.
Look at the different sizes INSIDE. The larger ones do NOT have flat bottoms. They distribute the weight off the wheels so that when tilted, is easy to pull or push.
It's physics.
It's the only trash can at 5'1" that I can easily push or pull when full.
Try not to "trash" a "vehicle" you've never test drove!

Anonymous said...

Someone needs to ask what is Richard's being paid now. They are billing for $1M per month now. I suspect that the $750K is the base fee and does not include other fees charged on a monthly basis.

Anonymous said...

Why does Jackson even need a trash collector. From looking at Jackson it looks like everyone dumps their trash on the streets.



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