Jackson Jambalaya

How can one city and state be this backwards and f’ed up

When it comes to incompetence, Mayor Chumpalot leads the pack by a wide margin.

D.O.G.E needs to come in and shutdown MDEQ.

Past time to hire Socrate's Asbestus Antar Wecantell PLLC to get on with the inspection and certification.

MDEQ’s Sontyna Dixon has introduced the Oakland form of spelling into her letter. What a shame. People with authority are becoming increasingly less educated. The city can’t follow simple instructions and the inspector isn’t qualified or simply not thorough. People, if there is a mistake, fix it and learn how to do it correctly for the next go round.

If they light it on fire first then can they tear it down? I’ve seen many of abandoned Jackson crack houses gone that were demolished after a little fire. Does the asbestos rule not apply to residential structures? Those houses are usually full of asbestos siding and stuff.

That MDEQ letter probably got placed in the same drawer the EPA letter regarding the water system was hidden for 2 years. Standard operating procedure for the city of Jackson.

If anyone has any experience - MDEQ gone MDEQ regardless of who any given mair is.

It was boarded up, but where there is a will there is a way. It has already been broken into.

Dude. 'Shutdown' is the NOUN form. What you want, is the VERB: "shut down".

MDEQ get out of the way and let Jackson tear down this eye soar!

@ 12:54, I think I see what you did there. I hope I do.

I, for one, will miss this historic Jackson landmark--

11:14 - and others ---- MDEQ isn't the problem here, just as it wasn't the problem with Jackson's failure to manage its sewer system and keep raw booboo from floating down the streets. Nor was MDEQ, along with EPA, the problem when Jackson's water treatment plant failed due to improper maintenance of the equipment, failure to pay vendors, and hire adequate staff.

MDEQ is doing its job to protect us - citizens of Jackson - from continued mismanagement by the Mayor and his departments in the CIty of Jackson. No different than when the Mayor tried to tell the State Fire Marshall he was not allowed to enter Thalia Mara Hall last week, or publilcally said that the FIre Marshall's report was the same as the one issued months earlier.

The Mayor proclaims all the time that "ITS THEIR FAULT", just as they did here saying that MDEQ was holding it up when in fact, it was the failure of the CIty and its cadre of lawyers to respond to the statutory requirements as spelled out to them by MDEQ.

If your hoping DOGE would come in and take down MDEQ, let me suggest you turn your MAGA hat around and focus it on the problem here -- Lumumba and his cronies who do nothing but pontificate and bitch.

If/when Jackson compllies with the law and reports such to MDEQ, they would gladly allow this eyesore to be torn down. But in the meantime, STFU if you can't understand that there are some good laws and regulations existing in this world and there are some good bureaucrats working hard to see that they are properly followed. If you don't like that, move your ass to Ruby Ridge and fight it out.

Hotel O is just one of many old hotels in the city that need to be torn down. They are ultimately pubic health and safety hazards.

Can Chalkline do ANYTHING right?

What's a little asbestos among friends?

Is no one going to even call out the pipskweak liar WE HAVE as a "Mayor"? Lied about Thalia Mara (and STILL IS) and lying about Hotel O. Lies about sewerage issues and water plant issues. Just a low class, common liar. Bald face lies. Were he white he would be in jail.

I have a feeling it want be torn down anytime soon

This isn't the MDEQ's delay any more than the recent failed fire inspection at Thalia Mara Hall was the State Fire Marshall's fault.

This is the kind of stupid lack of paying attention to the details that injures and kills people.

Those dead bodies from past stupidity are why we have fire curtain and fire extinguisher regulations for theaters; as well as pre-demolition asbestos inspections.

Keep in mind Jackson doesn't have a true public works director. The current one is actually the Chief Administrative Officer for the city. He is doubling up.

Now this doesn't count as a continuation as in the Warnock vein.

Jackson needs to hire the guy who knocked down the old Ridgeland City Hall.

This is Chokwe's fault as well.

It’s Mississippi, what else do you expect?
Ya’ll whine incessantly, but nary is a solution is offered. Ya’ll just blame. Ya’ll are last for a reason, look inside yourselves (on this page bitches), it’s you holding us back.

The solution is to educate the voters on who to vote for. There’s your offer. Instead, they vote for the same old lying kind of folks.

11:14: You really want DOGE to cancel a state agency? I bet you were all about state's rights when it came to outlawing abortion.

It sounds like MDEQ is following regulations, as it is supposed to do. Asbestos regs are there for good reasons. Unfortunately, the city cannot get its act together and do what the regs require. Don’t blame the MDEQ for irresponsible failures of the city.

One needs a knowledge of bureaucratic speak. All this really says is that not all the paperwork was filled out in the way she wanted it to be suited her. It may just mean that the person in charge of removing asbestos didn't note the pipe inspection or include his resume.
EPA only requires visual examination of asbestos if it was used for pipe insulation and even then, removal only if it looks damaged. It may just be the inspector didn't see any damage and fail to note he looked.

We don’t need no water let the :$-&:&3!::er burn

Nice try but incorrect. Suspect material must be identified and removed prior to a total demolition. You can’t leave it in place even if it is undamaged. Pipe insulation is easily friable and would be completely disturbed during the demolition process.

I would imagine it would be really easy and quick to look through google earth imagery going back in their historical imagery data to find the Hotel O didn't exist until far after asbestos was banned in building construction. Back it up with a title search of the property. This isn't rocket science (with props to Mairoral candidate Kim Wade).

It's not rocket science. They already hired and paid for CTEH tp perfoom an asbestos inspection at Thalia Mara.

Also could google and/or an rfp, if they are able to.

Asbestos testing and remediation of a building that used the material when it was still code. What a fucking racket. Great case for arson now. Tires literally burned for days in Jackson and the dorks at MDEQ are all in a knot over this.

9:16 That's some really good detective work on your part. If I understand what you're suggesting, you're saying the Hotel O was constructed AFTER 1989? I'm no detective, but I know I was born in 1960, and that hotel was there then. I have no idea when it was actually constructed, but suffice it to say that it CERTAINLY has asbestos in it.

MDEQ is doesn't do anything. Where were they when Jackson was pumping that sewage into Town Creek. The legislature needs to shut down this agency and focus those tax dollars somewhere else.

You might "Google" a little deeper and I'm more than certain that hotel isn't pre-1960.

History of Asbestos Regulation
While asbestos isn’t banned in the U.S., it is strictly regulated. The U.S. has stopped using asbestos in several products and industries due to decades of legislation:

1970: Congress passes the Clean Air Act, which classifies asbestos as hazardous and gives the EPA the power to regulate it.
1972: The Consumer Product Safety Act bans asbestos in wall patching compounds and artificial fireplace embers.
1973: Clarence Borel wins one of the first successful mesothelioma lawsuits. The EPA also bans spray-on asbestos products, which were used for fireproofing and insulation.
1975: The EPA bans other specific types of asbestos pipe insulation and block insulation.
1976: The Toxic Substances Control Act (TSCA) gives the EPA more authority to regulate the packaging, handling, storing and disposing of asbestos. An amendment to the Federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act allows a ban on asbestos-containing filters in pharmaceuticals.
1986: The Asbestos Information Act requires asbestos companies to report information to the EPA to be made public. The Asbestos Hazard Emergency Response Act (AHERA) requires the EPA to create standards for asbestos in schools.
1989: The EPA attempts to ban all uses of asbestos in the U.S., but the complete ban is overturned in 1991. A ban on five products (flooring felt, rollboard, commercial paper, corrugated paper and specialty paper) and new uses of asbestos is allowed to remain in place.
2016: The Frank R. Lautenberg Chemical Safety for the 21st Century Act expands the EPA’s powers regarding asbestos to help prevent challenges to a complete asbestos ban.
2019: The EPA’s Restrictions on Discontinued Uses of Asbestos Rule requires that certain uses of asbestos not already covered under the TSCA be subject to review.
2022: The EPA proposes a federal ban on chrysotile asbestos.
2023: The EPA releases data on asbestos use in the chloralkali industry for public comment.