Monday, April 6, 2020

Equal Time (School Edition)

Infectious disease expert Dr. Michael Osterholm thinks closing schools because of the Covid-19 virus is a mistake. He said the negative consequences of closing schools may outweigh their closure.  It is an interesting discussion that starts at 6:00 in the video.





Taiwan reopened their schools but let's face reality.  It is probably a bit much to expect American schoolchildren to be as well-disciplined or follow directions as well as their counterparts do in Taiwan.




24 comments:

Anonymous said...

Sippi kids are better off at home where their parent(s) will see how unruly they are. Mommas are going to wear out a few butts with the wooden spoon. And, maybe they will think twice about poppin a few more out!

Anonymous said...

Why can't we expect American kids to be as disciplined as Taiwanese kids? Is it because Taiwan doesn't suffer the destructive effects of multiculturalism?

Anonymous said...

@8:56 - the answer is “yes”.

Anonymous said...

Some used to say it was a mistake to jockey school start dates around children being involved in farming activities in Mississippi. Some used to say it was a mistake to allow farm kids to report to school and leave on odd schedules and the original school buses were used primarily to pick up kids who lived 'out in the country' and whose parents didn't or couldn't be hauling them to school because the parents were working on farms and the mule was otherwise in use.

The argument posed in the above article is nonsense. It's not even interesting. It's simply nonsense. People will come up with anything to write an article.

Anonymous said...

8:56. It’s easy. in Taiwan people value society over individual. USA-people value individual freedom over society.

Anonymous said...

8:56, you would have fit in well with the Nazis. Appears you missed your calling.

Anonymous said...

7:16...Here, lemme fix your analysis:

"In Taiwan, People are conditioned to default, in their thoughts and behavior, to the government. In America, the people value society, in general, but do not cave to the whims of a ruling authority."

Anonymous said...

@8:27 AM, this is 8:56 PM

Calling someone a Nazi has no meaning any longer. You can't spend decades calling everyone you disagree with, Hitler.

I didn't call for the extermination of any race. I didn't say any race was superior. You can see videos of school children in Africa just as well behaved as the children in Taiwan.

Look at the video of the Taiwanese school children and it is plain to see how well they function and why. They live in a homogeneous, high-trust society with zero cultural marxism.

Reminds me of this country before the baby boomers were indoctrinated by marxists in the 1960s and then began to consider all of their elders stupid and old fashioned.

Anonymous said...

@8:27 takes the Godwin Rule Award of the day!

Anonymous said...

Kids need to be in school (duh).

This virus has the capability of killing kids and those they expose if they are positive (duh)

There is no acceptable reason to expose your kid and their family to death so that they can be out of your hair and someone else's problem in school. (Duh)

Kingfish said...

Duh?

How many kids has it killed?

Anonymous said...

@9:27 so are you proposing a separate but equal solution to prevent race mixing? You may not like being associated with nazis but your views sure line up well.

Anonymous said...

@8:56 it’s ok if you hate America and its people. Maybe you should move somewhere that is more to your liking. I would suggest Hell.

Anonymous said...

9:27 Sorry but there are plenty of nations that embraced Marxism that were extremely disciplined. Take China for instance or even the Soviet Union. Whether your Confederate brain can comprehend it or not, those countries are huge and multi-cultural, marxist, AND disciplined.

Why not just say what is really on your mind Colonel Reb?

Anonymous said...

@10:40 & 10:41

I never proposed such a thing. I merely made the observation. You've got some demons in your skulls you need to have dealt with.

Kingfish said...

Multicultural?

Actually they shoved one culture down everyone's throats. Ask the Muslims and Tibetans in China today? Ask Hong Kong. Ask the Baltic States or the southern parts of the Soviet Union, all those -stans. They might disagree with you.

Anonymous said...

Kingfish:

Thankfully, it hasn't killed any "kids" in Mississippi yet, but it isn't the number of kids that it has killed or even the number who have gotten sick/symptomatic that is the risk factor of importance with regard to school closure (and note, that is not the same thing as kids' lives or health not being important).

The data is pretty clear thus far that those under 18 can be infected and can get sick, but most likely will recover. That's wonderful. But transmission and the rate of transmission are the keys. Kids transmit "bugs" to each other and adults all the time and having large gatherings of people of any age is a recipe for disaster in this scenario. On top of which, as bad/irresponsible/forgetful as many adults are about hand-washing, not touching their faces, etc., kids are all the moreso. Closing things and limiting contact is simply the most effective method we have to slow and stop this thing _at the present time_. If and when a vaccine is developed and/or the rate of increase of cases drops to a manageable level, alternatives can and will be considered, but for now, all we can do is use the tools we have and know work.

So, PLEASE -

STAY AT HOME UNLESS IT IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY TO LEAVE
WASH YOUR HANDS AFTER THE SLIGHTEST POSSIBILITY OF EXPOSURE
WEAR A MASK WHEN OUT IN PUBLIC

Is any of this really all that difficult to do or understand? Have we as a society really become so selfish and self-centered that we consider such relatively minor inconvenient things, considering the alternative, as unreasonable intrusions upon our immediate desires? If we have, many are going to be a taught some very painful lessons and even more difficult and unpleasant measures will be required. And if enough people ignore what are now basically requests and appeals to common sense, it will turn into enforced requirements. Rights come with responsibilities to fellow citizens and an orderly society.

Drinking and driving is an example - adults are more-or-less free to drink whenever and however much they wish as long as they do not become a danger to others, and people can drive pretty much anywhere or anytime they wish with a few basic restrictions (obeying traffic laws, being licensed, having minimum insurance, etc.). However, to protect society, they cannot combine the two because of the danger to other citizens and their rights (as well as themselves and the property of others). In other words, the danger to the public outweighs every individual's right to engage in conduct which endangers the public. Of course each citizen has individual rights but the citizenry, i.e., "society" also has collective rights. A citizen has the right to scream "FIRE!" and keep and bear arms in their own home, practice or not practice whatever religion they see fit, etc. They do not have the right to scream "FIRE" in a crowded theater when there is no fire, fire guns recklessly when it could endanger others, etc. Bob's "right" to swing his arms doesn't include the "right" to hit Sam in the nose, even unintentionally.

TheClintonscantsuicideusall said...

I'm waiting for the uproar among parents and kids when we go to school until the beginning or near beginning of the next school year. Lived in CO for a short while and they had rotating school year scheduling. Less time off, very short summer break of several weeks, helped with subject retention.

Anonymous said...

Uncle Joe Stalin was multi-cultural? ROFLMAO. Where do you get these commenters Kingfish?

Anonymous said...

KF According to MSDH, in their second graph, there have been 51 confirmed cases under age 18.
Currently that age range and 18-29 are the only age ranges without a death as yet.
However, those 51 were contagious. Had they been in school, the numbers would have been higher.
While we aren't collecting deaths except in age ranges, .2% of deaths have been in the 10-19 age group. Males are dying at 4,7% compared to females at 2.8%.

I add the last because my admittedly anecdotal observation is that males are less likely to be vigilant here and females, having had learning curves from being the caretakers of the family are less likely to be seen in public violating guidelines. Just yesterday during a curb side pickup, all women were masked but very few men.

Anonymous said...

Nazi, Commie, "multi-cultural" blamers, STOP ridiculous politicizing!

Our behavior is culturally driven but it was the SAME in 1918 with the Spanish Flu Pandemic. Some cities and States did NOT observe the warnings or following safety measures and paid a heavy price for their failure both in deaths and economic recovery.

This is about science. This in about our national security. That you all want to make it into political one-up-man-ship with your pretentious, uneducated philosophizing is disgusting.

You all never got beyond a dictionary understanding of any political philosophy so as to know how each defines the role of government specifically! Nor do you have a clue how any form of govenment slides into dictatorship or chaos. NO form of government has been applied with philosophical purity in history. They are have adapted in some way for varying reasons.

Anonymous said...

@12:48 lectures JJ and then calls the readers here pretentious. That's rich.

Anonymous said...

@12:13 PM you'll have to admit that when it came to killing that Stalin was multicultural.

Kingfish said...

"rate of transmission"

Problem is in Mississippi, we dont' know what R0 is. I asked Dr. Dobbs last week about it at a press conference. He didn't know what it was for the state and said they weren't calculating that value.



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