Tuesday, July 22, 2025

The Politics of Flood Control

Pearl Mayor Jake Winham appeared on The Jambalaya with the Kingfish podcast to discuss the One Lake flood control plan.  Mr. Windham is the Chairman of the Pearl River Valley Drainage and Flood Control District (Levee Board).  Hizzoner discusses the latest hurdles thrown up by the U.S Army Corps of Engineers.  He also gives a brief update on Pearl at the end of the podcast.  

The Crops released another "study" on the One Lake plan that drastically increased the estimated cost of the project.  One Lake supporters, including Mayor Windham, take strong issue with the projected costs.  Read the study here. Scroll to the bottom.




31 comments:

Anonymous said...

You can't defeat mother nature-

Anonymous said...

Ask the Mississippians who live in downstream communities what they think about this project-

Anonymous said...

More beggars for Gubmint handouts for declining communities with horrible demographics. Can’t wait to spend billions on Pearl and then have the 6 foot 8 felon panhandling and the hordes of homeless who camp off Silas Brown gracing this waterfront boondoggle. Genius. And then comparing vibrant growing towns with Pearl and Jackson. Good Lord. Facts are only “hurdles” to greedy developers and the conmen in Gubmint offices looking for handouts for them.

Anonymous said...

Sorry but I trust the Corps construction estimates better than the consultants/developers pushing the project.

Anonymous said...

All talk no action for 46 years.

Anonymous said...

We need the two-lakes project. three even better. Will be great venue for clubs and stuff. Like Shaggy's only more better for hanging out late. Key clubs would cut down on bad actors.

Anonymous said...

Has the corps ever done a project like this?

Anonymous said...

I wonder if the corps and the flood district have ever spoken to the people that are affected by flooding to get their thoughts on this.

Anonymous said...

Engineers with P.E.’s at MDOT said it would be cheaper to build these people a new house & move them than paying for work; much like the Backwater pump project. In fact PE’s said you. Could give them 1M each and still be financially better.

Anonymous said...

Unjustified, wasteful spending, unnecessary! Like one commenter said "it's been 46 years since the last flood. The spillway does a good job @ management of the river. Let it be. Jackson is building a nice place for the bums, lazy homeless, mentally ill people by making a park next to the 2 museum. It will be lovely spot for them to pitch camp. You can bet the civil rights & Frist Baptist Church attandent will decline whern this happens! Let it be. No 2 lakes.

Anonymous said...

One Lake will be a huge boon...but only to the people who are already invested in it. If you aren't one of them, then you will get to watch your tax dollars get funneled to the millionaires who are already invested.

Anonymous said...

@July 22, 2025 at 12:11 PM--

Name something the federal gov't (or any gov't for that matter) does 1) better, 2) more efficient, and 3) cheaper than the private sector can.

Anonymous said...

It seams like the project is more focused on other things instead of flooding.

Anonymous said...

The corps are not gonna pay for total cost of project. Has the district said where they will get the rest of the money?

Anonymous said...

@ 11:57 Watching Pearl's decline and it slowly become Jackson is funny honestly. Imagine how it'll look in 10 years lol

Anonymous said...

1:55. My point is the cost estimates not who will do the actual work. Thanks to ARPA and other money thrown out by the feds, the costs of all construction work has increased 50-100% in the past 5 years. Just ask a town or rural water system needing a new water well!!!

Anonymous said...

All talk no action for 46 years.

You miss the point. No action is the plan. Another '79 scale flood event is inevitable. A vast swath of Jackson's remaining semi-viable NEJ tax base will be wiped out and the job will be complete.

Anonymous said...

Would it not be awesome to have boardwalks all along and over the lake though? There would be an attraction for the public to enjoy, and LeFleur's Bluff could use the revitalization. The Fannye Cook wildlife preserve will be open soon (hopefully). This has the chance to be a super beneficial project for the metro. Plus, imagine driving the stack area and driving over water instead of a weedy floodplain.


We give billions to Ukraine and others in the blink of an eye, why not use some of that free federal $ for this too!

Anonymous said...

You gotta be pretty damned dumb to quote 'engineers' working at D.O.T.

Anonymous said...

They have been fooled into believing it will impact them. Science has established that it won’t. Even the corps environmentalists have admitted that now.

Anonymous said...

No point in making any effort to improve things. Everything is a scam and we’re doomed to live in a dump.

Anonymous said...

Sorrry but you are wrong. The project is being pushed by area mayors and statewide officials. The lower estimates are coming from local contractors.

Anonymous said...

Yes, in San Antonio, Ft. Worth, etc.

Anonymous said...

Yes, numerous times. The same people have said the same things over and over. Way too much public comment. No voice has gone unheard. It’s time for action.

Anonymous said...

Once again, it has nothing to do with flood control, and everything to do with making money for developers, real estate moguls and local politicians….

Anonymous said...

That is 100% false. Even the corps has admitted that buyouts and flood proofing would be the most expensive solution. That plan is not even on the table anymore. It was eliminated as not feasible.

Anonymous said...

Sorry buddy. Abandoning the capital city is not an option.

Anonymous said...

July 22, 2025 at 3:28 PM-

1:55 here. Who does the work is a huge reason why this plan has only gotten costlier once it became the Corps "plan". They took the original plan provided by the Flood Control District, muddied it up, and re-presented as the Corps plan. From an actual hydraulics/flooding standpoint, it's less effective than the original FCD plan. Increased federal involvement in planning and implementing this project means we, the tax payers, will be paying 3-5 times more for contractor services on this project than we would have if the project stayed "private". Even taking into account todays inflation.

Long story short: it's another example of "we're the gov and we're here to help you" all the while screwing up a good plan and drastically increasing costs associated with something. Like literally every time the guv touches something.

Anonymous said...

The private development opportunities this would create are miniscule compared to the public improvements that will stimulate growth and multiply the value of the area exponentially. You are mistaken.

Anonymous said...

The abandonment of Jackson is already well underway and going strong.

Anonymous said...

While I sincerely wish the new mayor the best the city currently is not capable of providing services to support that kind of development.


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