Saturday, July 26, 2025

About Drinking Raw Milk.....

The CDC reported an outbreak of Salmonella and other cases in San Diego due to drinking raw milk in 2023: 

 Unpasteurized (raw) milk has been linked to foodborne illness outbreaks caused by Escherichia coli bacteria and certain species of Brucella, Campylobacter, Cryptosporidium, and Salmonella. In October 2023, the County of San Diego Health and Human Services Agency notified the California Department of Public Health (CDPH) of eight cases of salmonellosis in persons who reported consuming brand A raw milk, produced exclusively by dairy farm A. A total of 171 outbreak-associated Salmonella Typhimurium cases were identified through review of standardized salmonellosis case report forms and a search of PulseNet, CDC’s national molecular subtyping network for enteric disease surveillance, followed by administration of a dairy-focused supplementary questionnaire. Most cases (98%) were identified in California; one case each was identified in four other states. Among the 171 cases, 120 (70%) cases and 18 (82%) of the cases requiring hospitalization were among children and adolescents aged <18 years. Among 159 patients confirmed to be infected with the outbreak strain, 55 (70%) of those with exposure data consumed brand A raw milk or heavy cream. Four of 40 samples collected from dairy farm A, retail stores, and patients’ homes, including raw milk and raw milk cheese aged for 60 days, tested positive for the outbreak strain of S. Typhimurium by whole-genome sequencing. Dairy farm A voluntarily recalled raw milk and raw heavy cream 1 week after the initial outbreak identification. Commercially distributed raw dairy products have the potential to cause large and widespread infectious disease outbreaks. Public health authorities should continue to raise awareness of the risks associated with consuming raw dairy products, especially by persons at increased risk for severe disease from enteric pathogens, including children.

The report is available here.  

33 comments:

Anonymous said...

FYI you can still get salmonella from pasteurized milk if it is contaminated after pasteurization. It typically results in a recall. Raw milk is not inherently less safe it just has a shorter shelf life and can only be transported shorter distances.

But you keep pushing your agenda there KF. You annd your catty little gossip blog are no better than the NYT and Mississippi Today.

Anonymous said...

Science shmience, freeeeeeeedom (to be stupid)

Anonymous said...

Ah yes, Jackson Jambalaya — where Mississippi meets MySpace.

Visiting this blog feels like stepping into a digital time capsule, except nobody dusted it off first. The layout is pure 2008: a cluttered scroll-fest of mismatched fonts, off-center ads, and enough blue hyperlinks to send you straight back to your high school IT class. It’s like someone took a Geocities site, dipped it in local outrage, and hit “Publish” for 15 years straight.

Navigating the site is about as smooth as Jackson’s water system during a cold snap — chaotic, outdated, and somehow still leaking opinions all over the place.

Want to comment? Congratulations, you’re entering a Wild West saloon of anonymous keyboard cowboys, where the sarcasm flows like sweet tea and everyone is 100% sure they’re right — especially when they’re not.

And the branding? “Kingfish”? Nothing says journalistic credibility like naming yourself after a Louisiana politician from the 1930s and using it to lob Molotov blog posts at modern-day city leaders.

To be fair, the blog does break stories occasionally, and its readership is loyal. But honestly, it’s 2025 — if you’re going to run a watchdog blog, maybe switch off the Blogger engine and join the rest of us in the post-iPhone era. You shouldn’t need a forensic tech degree to find the archives or read the text on a phone screen without zooming in like it’s a microscopic crime scene.

Anonymous said...

@12:27 KF made a post about this either last year or earlier this year.

Everyone overwhelmingly wanted him to keep the site exactly the same. I, and a few others recommend a mobile site.

As for the UI.
I remember surfing the early internet on 486DX4 and despite the slower dial-up speed, the internet was 1000X better before. If you wanted to be a leftist freak then had their own IRC or AOL chat room containment zone.

I would give anything to go back.

Anonymous said...

I grew up on a dairy farm. Drank raw milk exclusively for 50 years. Today is my 80th birthday.

Anonymous said...

I’m not sure why people do this. There’s nothing unhealthy about pasteurization. It’s basically the same process used in canning.

Anonymous said...

KF - looks you are right over the target. Congratulations! ;-)

Anonymous said...

Drinking raw milk and eating fresh, unbleached eggs are dangerous because it raises testosterone levels in men, and fertility levels in women, and they become more traditional, more Christian, and more hostile to cultural Marxist subversions. Especially after reading The Book of Judges in the Old Testament.

Anonymous said...

Is it too late to return the milk for a refund?

Anonymous said...

Dang, @12:27. You must feel so much better now.

Anonymous said...

@12:27 ... I read your entire boring little word salad. But I see you return day after day after day and read, and comment...so what's your point?

Anonymous said...

English?

Anonymous said...

It used to be a watchdog blog.

Anonymous said...

Bovine tuberculosis (TB) in humans, also known as zoonotic TB, is a bacterial infection caused by Mycobacterium bovis, primarily found in cattle but transmissible to humans. While less common than human TB (caused by M. tuberculosis), bovine TB can still pose a risk, especially through consumption of unpasteurized milk and dairy products or exposure to infected animals

Anonymous said...

Lots of low information folks criticizing @12:27. Grow up - get informed. Stop drinking the KoolAid.

Anonymous said...

It's his blog and he can post whatever he damn well pleases. If you don't like the weather, move.

Anonymous said...

I was born on, grew up on and helped run a dairy farm. Did not drink any kind of milk other than raw for 50 years. Today is my 80th birthday. Getting along just fine.

Anonymous said...

12:27 - My great grandfather was defeated the first he ran for sheriff. He blamed the loss on the county seat newspaper endorsing his opponent. So he went to the bank and borrowed enough money to buy the newspaper. He was elected sheriff four years later.

The moral of that story? If you don't like the way Kingfish runs his web site, start your own damn site.

JimAtTheRez said...

Hey 12:27, you know that this is a free country. If you don't like this blog, it is very simple: start your own. Most of us are fine with this one.

Anonymous said...

But but but my first amendments! Or something

Anonymous said...

But, meanwhile, back to those ill people. Two hundred bucks says they were all from south of the border and have, on occasion, back home, drunk water that first ran through a pig pen.

Anonymous said...

I say drink it. You’re an adult. If you get sick and die, that’s on you… and honestly, statistically, society is better off without you if you ignore modern science. You’ll probably feel different when you’re in the hospital taking up a needed bed.

Just don’t feed it to your kids. They don’t know better and young kids die from salmonella all the time.

Anonymous said...

Yet another stone-less anonymous piss ant dropping by to deposit a pile on KF's lawn.

Anonymous said...

"Drinking raw milk and eating fresh, unbleached eggs are dangerous because it raises testosterone levels in men"

I learned that on social media from a guy who injects $10K worth of steroids into his ass every month, so it must be true.

Kingfish said...

The raw milk has a better flavor is one reason why some prefer it. It also has a lower amount of the "bad" sugars.

Kingfish said...

From what I have read and heard from other people, that milk is relatively safer and depends on how clean things are kept at the farm. Your body probably built up some resistance over the years from drinking it as well. I suspect most of these cases occurred where it was sold commercially. I know some people who buy it but then boil it when they get home. However, they don't boil it as long as the pasteurization process so it doesn't kill the flavor.

Anonymous said...

I don't like a lot of what KF posts, nor his scattershot censorship standard, nor his own comments. But I don't want to only go to some sites that post what agrees with my opinions and beliefs; I don't need to live in an echo chamber. So I come here and to other sites, equally irritating and annoying, to gain some perspective.

Perspective is a wonderful thing, and many, many Americans don't have any.

Anonymous said...

Do you never get tired of typing that same bullshit?

Anonymous said...

Raw milk is better for you because of all the exercise you get shaking the jar to mix the cream back in before you pour it in your glass!

Anonymous said...

Milk contains female hormones since it comes from female cows! I don’t let my boys drink it, I don’t want them to be feminized!

Anonymous said...

Oh noooooo a salmonella contamination in food… interesting that the 2025 egg one nor the 2025 bean were selected to be discussed but instead a 2023 one because it was raw milk was chosen… https://www.cdc.gov/salmonella/outbreaks/eggs-06-25/index.html

Anonymous said...

@8:13 But they do feed it to their children all the time and take this reckless risk. They want to live like it’s 1900 again, but they forget (or maybe dont know) that the infant and child mortality rate then was around 20 percent. But, yeah, sure, give them raw milk, measles, chickenpox, etc.; They will be fine according to their favorite tradwife lifestyle blogger!

Anonymous said...

Ooops!

It happened again!

Information on the Consumption of Raw Milk in the Northeast/Central Florida Region

Due to continued recent cases of Campylobacter and Shiga toxin-producing E. coli (STEC) infections linked to a particular farm, the Florida Department of Health is providing information to assist Floridians in making informed decisions about their health. Sanitation practices in this farm are of particular concern due to the number of cases. There have been 21 cases, including six children under the age of 10, and seven hospitalizations linked to consumption of raw milk from the same farm. Severe complications have been reported for at least two cases.

ww.floridahealth.gov/newsroom/2025/08/20250806-florida-department-health-provides-update-raw-milk.pr.html


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