Monday, October 25, 2021

Trash Talk: RFP Edition

 Jackson residents will keep their twice a week garbage collection. However, they are going to have buy  96 gallon garbage cans. 

The city of Jackson issued a new request for proposals for the residential garbage collection services contract. The city stated on its website:

The City of Jackson (City) is requesting proposals from qualified Service Providers to provide residential solid waste collection and transportation to a designated transfer station or landfill. Award of a contract for this project is subject to the availability of funding.

It is the City’s intent to evaluate the proposals based on technical merit, experience, and price and to choose the Service Provider whose proposal provides the best value to the City. The City reserves the right to waive any irregularities, reject any and/or all proposals, in whole or in part, when, in the City’s opinion, such rejection is in the best interests of the City.

The City will perform an initial blind review of the technical proposals submitted by each Service Provider for qualifications. The City will open and review only the cost proposals of those Service Providers determined to be technically qualified.

Selection of Service Provider for Contract negotiation will be based on an evaluation of the following criteria:
1. Technical Proposal (30%)
a. Innovative approach to encourage and maintain a sustainable solid waste system- 10%
b. Plan for performing the required services- 20%
2. Service Provider’s Presentation/Interview: (25%)
a. Experience in providing similar services- 10%
b. Qualifications and Key Personnel- 10%
c. References- 5%
3. EBO Plan and commitment to exceeding MBE and FBE participation goals (10%)
4. Fee proposal (35%)
a. How cost compares to other proposals in this algebraic equation: ((Lowest Priced Proposal divided by Service Provider’s Price) multiplied by 35) equals the number of points/percentage assigned.
i. Example: If Lowest Price is $100.00 and it is submitted by Service Provider A, and Service Provider B’s Price was $200.00 then the equation to determine Service Provider B’s score would be:
1. ($100/$200) X 35= 17.5
2. Service Provider A gets 35 points
3. Service Provider B gets 17.5 points

 

The deadline to submit bids is November 23.

There is one interesting little tidbit in the in the RFP. No less than 75% of a company's employees must be full-time within a year after executing the contract. Each truck must have two hoppers.

Then there is the matter of garbage cans.   Check out page 19:

Carts for Residential Solid Waste curb collection shall be [color to be decided by City prior to time of Contract] 96 gallon Carts.  The City shall review and approve the Cart models, including the specific shade of color proposed prior to Cart ordering and delivery by the Contractor. All new Carts shall be equipped  with  attached  lids,  have  wheels  to  aid  in  movement,  be a  minimum  15%  post-consumer recycled content, meet ASTM Cart standards, and have minimum 10-year warranty. 

Carts  will  include  Contractor-provided,  and  City-approved,  instruction  labels  or  in-molds  for  with customer instruction on Cart use, excluded and included materials, City logo and contact information. Instructions  will  include  Cart  safety,  including  customer  actions  that  would  void  manufacturer warranties, placement of hot ashes that could cause Cart to melt, and procedures to minimize potential fire problems.

The  Contractor  shall  affix  the  customer's  address  to  each  new  Cart  or  Cart  replacement  prior  to delivery.

So, it appears that if you spent several hundred dollars on thoseToters at Home Depot, you are screwed.

Garbage will be picked up twice a week. Curbside bulk waste will be picked up once a week. Yard waste will be picked up on the second collection date. The current limitations for such waste remain in force.

The provider will conduct monthly letter pickups and illegal dumping removal (P. 31).

The term of the contract is six years with four one-year renewal periods. The RFP targeted January 4, 2022 to present a contract to the City Council.

66 comments:

Krusatyr said...

A 96 gallon cart won't fit in my garage and a 36 gal is big enough for my trash. Why two hoppers if the huge "cart" is designed for auto dumping?

Picking up litter will just encourage more littering.

Let's keep the service we have now and dump the Boy Mayor.

Anonymous said...

Sweetheart deal on the 96-gallon behemoths?

Anonymous said...

It takes 82 pages to explain who, what when and where to pick up “garbage”.

Anonymous said...

And citizens wonder why their garbage will be over $40 per month. This RFP is filled with typical government overreach.

Unknown said...

Buckle up Jacksonites. You're about to be taken for a ride.

Anonymous said...

It is baffling that this mayor is so delusional he thinks the majority of his city will take care of/pride in an effing 96-gallon, hinged garbage can when they display ZERO pride in their (mostly rental) properties. I'm sure it warms the providers heart to know they can collect for damages to cans while continually supplying new cans. (They'll never see a penny for damage and the mayor knows it!!)

His city is literally crumbling and he's putting this much time and energy into waste management, when we ALL KNOW the majority of his constituents have ZERO intentions of paying a penny for trash removal service.

My trash man doesn't get MLK day off. Ironically, MLK would be APPALLED by Jackson.

I would love to see Waste Management tell them to f@#% off, because there's NO WAY the little fly-by-night companies the mayor supports can meet all the requirements of this agreement. There's some things that are just not worth the money and Jackson is one of them.

The mayor sure doesn't mind imposing a lot of rules and fines. How about Waste Management demand safety for their employees? There are many streets in Jackson that they are literally risking their lives to pick up the trash.

Anonymous said...

This isn’t an RFP so much as a hook-up. Anyone else notice that the “new” RFP still has a March, 2021 date in the footer?

Sheesh, corruption abounds.

Anonymous said...

FYI. City of Brandon just went from $13.75 to $19.25 (40%) per month for twice a week pickup by Waste Management. Don't know specifics but I'm hoping it doesn't include a yearly excalator clause!!! Use whatever garbage can you want. I agree those 96 gallon ones are impossible for a little old lady to handle!

Anonymous said...

so, if you max out each scoring category, you receive 155%. Now, that's fuzzy math

Anonymous said...

The detailed description of the carts, leads me to believe the RFP is being targeted to a specific company.

No way the city pulled those requirements out of thin air.

Anonymous said...

When did the garbage business get so complicated?

Anonymous said...

This is when Jackson has the opportunity to upgrade the collection system by using the 1 man 1 truck operation system where the truck picks up the garbage can, empties it, and sets it down.
The city can also pass an ordinance that says the garbage can shall only be allowed streetside on trash day.

Anonymous said...

No matter what is done it will screw the average citizen of this town. Absolute shame what this city has done to itself. The citizens put them in, and then promptly bent over and grabbed their ankles. Betting they do it yet again.

Anonymous said...

96 gallon garbage cart. That so you can throw out the murdered so the count stay down.

Anonymous said...

Lumumba is going to show the peons who is boss. The RFP guarantees a massive rate increase. The City Council though still holds all the cards when it comes to an actual contract.

Anonymous said...

Gotta have those big beautiful matching garbage cans, while the city goes to hell in a handbasket.

Anonymous said...

98 gallon container. Think of a 55 gallon drum. Almost twice that size. Won't this be a pretty town with all the containers sitting in front of the house all week. Or you'll have to hire someone to haul the garbage from the garage to the street so the garbage can be hauled off.

No Hygiene Products Please said...

Kingfish: I will kiss your ass on top of the mayor's desk (and give you an hour to alert WLBT) the day Jackson residents buy garbage cans. Why can't Jacksonians just continue taking their trash to the Reservoir spillway rock pile or alongside the 55 and 20 frontage roads?

Anonymous said...

References - 5% LOL

Who Your People - 40%

Where Your Home Church - 50%

List of Relatives - 100%

(This RFP subject to city math)

Anonymous said...

Good luck finding that many 96 gallon trash cans that meet those specs.

Had It.... said...

She can't drive so she won't leave the city, so we are going to have to get a divorce. It is either that, or I lose my mind living in this mismanaged, litter infested, crime ridden, filthy, joke of ANY government, judicially impaired, shitty water, drainage and sewage, educational joke, 3rd world country roads shithole. I. Am. Out.

Anonymous said...

If I am forced to accept one of those cans I will not only have painted an image of Lumumba himself on one side, I will use spray paint on the other side to make visible in my neighborhood anti-Lumumba messages. This you can be sure of.

Krusatyr said...

@3:42
Agree this RFP is textbook micromanagemrnt guaranteed to cost like NYC even as it will suck and stink like Jxn. Why doesn't the unclothed emperor require hoppers to wear a tie and sing "Swing Low Sweet Chariot".

Anonymous said...

@ October 25, 2021 at 4:51 PM

1 man, 1 truck = fewer employed people.

And do you really think they will enforce that ordinance?

Would you like a list of things people are not supposed to do per ordinance and then see how many are enforced?

That's what they voted for said...

" The City shall review and approve the Cart models, including the specific shade of color proposed prior to Cart ordering and delivery by the Contractor."

No safe drinking water in Jackson at any time.
No toilet water during the winter months.
Record number of random killings of innocents at gas stations.
Pot holes that an M1 Abrams battle tank would have trouble crossing.

And the City of Jackson Administration is worried about the color of trash cans.



Anonymous said...

The mayor can't be bothered with petty issues like drinkable water, freedom from being murdered, or sewage that gets treated rather than dumped in local waterways (or your yard).

No, there's no time for that, but there's PLENTY of time to micromanage the hell out of a contract for the ONE thing that's been working pretty well... to favor a specific very rich man with his "clergyman" croney.

The stench of corruption is stronger than the massive sewage discharge that Jackson spewed into Trahan Creek last month.

Anonymous said...

Here is a possible solution to these garbage, water, crime, road situations. Why not tax the people currently living in Eastover and The nice sections of Old Canton Road. They can afford it, and those that can not afford it will benefit.

Anonymous said...

Garbage is a very crooked business and all make lots of money but the tax payers really get shafted.

Anonymous said...

Attn 6:47. But look at how much the perceived value of your house has increased, assuming you live in the jacktown city limits.

Anonymous said...

I’ve got an innovative idea. Please just hear me out. Why doesn’t Jackson just put out an RFP for garbage collection and then simply pick the cheapest and most qualified?

Connect the dots said...

So I assume the mayor’s sister is selling trash cans.

Anonymous said...

Get real Kingfish. One man can't lift a 96 gallon trash can full of trash. They have to hook on the garbage truck trash can lifter that will than dump it into the garbage truck.

Anonymous said...

5:44 PM
Tarskus is that you?
-A previous neighbor.

Anonymous said...

October 25, 2021 at 6:11 PM

1 man, 1 truck = fewer employed people.

Lower overhead = lower garbage bills.

But you may be right about enforcing an ordinance. Jackson residents gone be Jackson residents.

Anonymous said...

Attn 7:57 You may be correct about the Mayor’s sister selling all of the garbage cans, but they.will finance them for 12 or more years at an astronomically high interest rate. It will be fairly painless, but the payment time will outlive the service life of these trash cans, but who cares?

Anonymous said...

Garbage is a very crooked business and all make lots of money but the tax payers really get shafted.

Anonymous said...

I assume the comment at 7:07 was intended to be sarcastic. But I will point out that Jackson does not suffer from a money problem so much as it suffers from mismanagement, etc.

Exhibit A: Jackson Public Schools, which collects more per student than any other public school district in the state, but it still failing.

Anonymous said...

7:57. No. The M bar's wife is.

Anonymous said...

" specific shade of color "

(Regarding a damn garbage can) ?

Bless his little black privileged (gated cul-de-sac) heart!
That is priceless.

I will quote this ever time some jealous idiot brings up Madison Mayor Mary Hawkins-Butler's zoning requirements for new construction
in her city.

To Hell with stucco and Corinthian columns, Antard is worried about
"shades" of garbage-can colors.








Anonymous said...

So, qualifications and experience count less than the presentation? What sort of warped reality is this?

Jackistan = corruption = Jackistan = corruption... said...

96-gallon cart? YGTBSM The unwashed masses of Jackistan can't afford to pay their water bills, so they are going to spend $240 (Walmart's price) on one of these carts? Seriously?

Anonymous said...

Specs like these don't write themselves. A contractor has already been chosen for a specific amount and the specs were crafted around their negotiated offer to make it look legit.

Happens all the time.

Anonymous said...

I wonder who is going to sell those trash cans to the vendor? One of the Mayor’s cronies or his sister?

Anonymous said...

Have fun with putting out garbage in the garbage city with garbage government. I'll be sure to carry my trash cans with me when I move out after 55 years in Jackson next week.

On second thought, why not turn the Lake Hico land into a landfill. It oughta fit in perfectly with that side of the Old New City...

Anonymous said...

So the 170,000 people will need about 50,000 new garbage cans?

Yeah, they will be made in China and put on a Slow Boat.

Anonymous said...

Normal people recognize this as insanity.

Anonymous said...

Don’t get too attached to your new garbage can, it will come up missing first time you set out to the street.

Anonymous said...

embrace the suck, jackson. well, in this case, the stench. embrace the stench, jackson.

Anonymous said...

And what happens when my garbage can gets repeatedly stolen? I am sure it will be quick and easy to get a new overpriced can.

Anonymous said...

...when I move out after 55 years in Jackson next week.

Congrats. You won't regret it.

Anonymous said...

Attn October 25, 2021 at 7:28 PM, thank the Federal Reserve for cutting interest rates around March 2020 for your housing prices going up. When that happened everyone and their brother went looking for either a new house or to refinance. There was a period of about 2 months where interest rates were swinging wildly between 2 and 4% before settling close to 2% later that year.

1:16 AM
170,000? Try closer to 150,000.

Thornton Melon said...

Then there's long term costs such as waste disposal. I don't know if you're familiar with who runs that business but I assure you it's not the boyscouts.

Anonymous said...

Attn 8:19. Unless this person moves to Canton!!!

Anonymous said...

I see a black (no pun intended) market in $250 garbage cans.

Anonymous said...

One man, One truck. Wonder how many of the 96 gallon behemoths will be driven by since they aren't set curbside just right?

Anonymous said...

6:15 am you are exactly right. The new orange and white trash cans will end up on Valley street. That's why they call the business "THE CAN MAN".

Anonymous said...

City Council members need to nix the garbage cans. We can't afford them and they will be an eyesore for years to come.

Anonymous said...

On second thought...How many homeless folks on Lakeland could be accommodated in a virtual village of these 'borrowed and repositioned' cans? So...we got jeans...we got cans...alls we needs is blankies.

Anonymous said...

Seems the Mayor has an addiction to shooting his feet.

j'etait Charles Martel said...

.
5:52 may be on the right track. If we are forced to buy behemoth cans that few women and many men over 70 can lift/push around, much less store in a garage (this is almost twice the size of a 55 gal. can; no room in my garage for that, much less 2), It should be no problem to post a large picture or find a stencil on the side of the monstrosity to remind folks of whose idea it was.
Sort of a "dust to dust, garbage to garbage" reminder.
Anyone have a stencil of the boy (alleged) "mayor"?
Lets Go Brandon. And the boy "mayor", too.

j'etait Charles Martel said...


And as far as family selling cans to the victims of being Jackson residents...

CHAD WHITE WHERE ARE YOU?

Mississippi has a great need of your services, but Jackson most of all.

Anonymous said...

Let's go Chowke.

Anonymous said...

If we are forced to buy behemoth cans that few women and many men over 70 can lift/push around, much less store in a garage (this is almost twice the size of a 55 gal. can; no room in my garage for that, much less 2), It should be no problem to post a large picture or find a stencil on the side of the monstrosity to remind folks of whose idea it was.
Sort of a "dust to dust, garbage to garbage" reminder.
Anyone have a stencil of the boy (alleged) "mayor"?


This is genius. It is a time honored tradition in Jackson to stuff mailboxes with anonymous fliers containing smears and lies against political opponents. How refreshing it would be to see it done with actual well illustrated truth, along with the price tag citizens are expected to pay.

Many Jackson voters are not online and are receiving only highly filtered information from mainstream media, "pastors" on the take, and corrupt political cronies. Figure out a way to bypass those and do this and I'll be a donor.

Anonymous said...

You'll need to be between 19 and 32 years age with a well-used gym membership card to roll a full 96-gallon rubber cart from your garage out to the street twice a week.

Hell, a 45 gallon black bag full of household garbage can weigh 70 pounds just by itself, not counting fish-heads and paint cans. Even Waste Management is not stupid enough to fall for this crap-RFP.

This is enough to resurrect Doonesbury and Dick Tracy.

Anonymous said...

"The new orange and white trash cans will ...."


Well 10:36, the new trash cans would match the JPD cruiser colors.

The US Coast Guard's Cutter/Aircraft paint scheme seems to have been
a victim of cultural appropriation by Antar's Department of Human Activities, Office of the Paint.


Anonymous said...

He’s obviously got a debt to pay. I hope he fails on this and we see him get his payback.


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