Jackson Jambalaya

140 confirmed. Reality is probably 140,000 cases unconfirmed. I'm sure thousands more in Mississippi have already been infected and recovered. This is literally a nothing burger. The panic response is causing more damage than the virus.

Karl Denninger is making a similar point on the Market Ticker this week. Said its better to let it burn through and build up immunity.

The one plus of letting the virus run free, as you and the last commenter seem to be in favor of, is that it’d likely kill off a fair number of the old racist assholes that make up this site’s usual commenter base.

Would love the MSDH to state how many of these cases are mild or serious. 140 cases gives us zero perspective on severity.

I'm pretty sure I have it right now. But Captain Morgan and Dr. Pepper are easing my suffering. Or maybe putting me out of my misery.

I found a good Netflix show about a gorgeous Seoul fashion designer who accidentally paraglides into the DMZ and is rescued by a handsome and good hearted elite NORTH Korean captain.

It's called Crash Landing On You

Bravo @ 11:29am. Post of the year nominee.

11:29 & 12:06, You guys are delude. It is negative interactions anti-social behavior that make people racist. And as long as a segment of society causes negative interactions racists will continue to develop in every generation.

4chan is a perfect example. It is nearly entirely racist and antisemitic millennials.

@11:20 could not agree more. Some common sense (if you are sick stay home) and good hygiene would serve everyone well. There is a good read in The Federalist on their website from March 19. We are shutting down the entire country and economy over a virus that may be slightly more lethal than the flu. I am glad the Greatest Generation did not put their self interest (fear of losing their life) over the country.

The most important piece of information is not the number of positive cases or deaths. It is the age and underlying condition of those hospitalized or dead from the virus. Why is this not being reported?

Sounds like the pineapple had rotted.

Well, you can keep everything open, but I guarantee you that once we have the first dead pile up no one will come out anyway, no matter what the authorities say. Human nature. I feel sorry for all the folks who lose their jobs and business. But then again, most of these folks scream socialism when the idea of a solid social net is floated that would alleviate the pain in situations like this, not knowing that Central, Northern and Western Europe are far from being suppressing systems with their social systems. Maybe stupid dies with corona...

@1:42 Do you mean like the way people stay home due to human nature when between 30K and 70K people die from the flu every year?

can you give us an overlay of the Influenza map by county and total deaths this year. Just need some perspective here.

These threads are like Gwen Eifel lobbing softballs to Hillary and Joe.

Are the police departments still arresting and jailing people in the coronavirus environment?

MSDH is reporting various stats about those infected:

https://msdh.ms.gov/msdhsite/_static/14,0,420.html

I was told that pineapples prevented the spread of the virus.

140 confirmed with 1 death. It is probably a whole lot easier to control the 140, and any others that show up, through quarantine and treatment than rather trying to control 2+ million. Just saying for a friend.

Cannibis is showing great promise, I have a hunch and I have been right before. My neighbor thinks it will work too, just add a Bud Light.

Very few (none that I have seen, but there could be the one person) of you have a good understanding of the math involved.

The growth rate, in confirmed cases, is approx 50% a day. With 140 current cases, at 50% daily rate, it will infect the entire state in 25 days.

If y'all are right that 90% of infected do NOT get confimed, that still means 300k confirmed in MS alone.

The case mortality rate appears to be about 1.5%, which means we are looking at 4,500 deaths in Mississippi.

For what it's worth, yesterday was a 75% increase. Some days more, some less.

When the healthcare system is overloaded the mortality rate WILL go up.

@12:32

This virus WILL overwhelm the healthcare system. Other, uninfected people will DIE because of lack of access to healthcare. Hospitals have pretty much cancelled all elective surgery. The more overloaded ones have cancelled needed surgeries, even cardiac ones. Eventually, the virus will infect healthcare workers as well. For matters of liability can you imagine a hospital letting an infected nurse, lab tech, doctor, administrator, etc have direct patient contact?

The lack of respect for experts and educated people has caught up with us. Someone who thinks that their armchair quarterback opinion is equal to the opinion of an expert had led us all into this mess.

For those that don't understand the gravity of the situation the link below does an excellent job of documenting and explaining the course required to get past this.

https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca

@2:36

When we have a vaccine for COVID-19 and proven medicine for treatment, then we can compare numbers with the flu. Since we have neither of those in place it’s apples to oranges.

@5:22 That’s just 140 confirmed. Those 140 are either in the hospital or quarantined at home. Only the most seriously ill are being tested. Actual number is higher. People can be contagious without showing major symptoms. Without greatly reduced personal interaction those people will infect many more. You simply can’t depend on social distancing by at-risk people to prevent needless deaths. We’ve got to reduce the absolute number of infected at any one time to reasonably control the progress of the spread.

Vanderbilt has converted their parking garage to a field hospital.

As of 7 pm tonight, 23,203 positive cases; 156,017 negative tests. 1,964 hospitalized; 272 deaths in the USA. That's an 8% hospitalization rate and a 1% mortality rate. Serious enough to be concerned, but not the end of the world. Helpful information at www.covidtracking.com/data

The assumption you will have a 1% fatality rate only holds out as long as adequate medical care is available to all that need it. As Italy had shown, once you run out of beds and respirators a lot of patients receive no treatment and mortality goes through the roof. Does a 5% mortality rate sound acceptable, because that is what you will see.

8:53, Not really, as testing ramps up in the U.S., and Mississippi in particular, the mortality rate is going to go down as the number of positive tests with mild disease and subsequent recovery increases. The mortality rate will not be anywhere near 5% and aside from some “little Italy’s” like New York City, Seatlle, New Orleans, etc, it will not be comparable. Carry on with the hysteria though,

STOP! Putting out numbers and percentage of how many will get the Virus and how many will die. You damn well don't know.

@7:47 that's 'case mortality' rate. Not overall. Big difference.

And yes, expect that to skyrocket when there are no more beds and when healthcare workers are infected.

Not sure I am allowed to post this, but we all apparently are getting at each other. I am not a Virologist/Tropical Medicine expert but was trained in Emergency Medicine years ago, and have since retired from the VA. There is a good article on the Fox News web site, "Dr. William Haseltine: Coronavirus pandemic could end in these ways – Maybe sooner than we expect", which may help allay some anxiety. I also agreed with the way Los Angeles County is now treating this pandemic. I don't agree with some of the numbers being posted, but that's my prerogative. All of you take care of yourselves and your families.

@747pm i think the number hospitalized is only a total of the states reporting it (which isn't many). Most of those are in New York where the rate is closer to 15%. Mississippi is reporting on their website 25% are hospitalized but the again our testing is onky just getting started.

1% is acceptable as long as they’re not someone you know or care about. Young people will most likely not die from this but could easily transmit it to someone elderly or in poor health. I think this virus will ultimately prove how selfish and self-centered most Americans are, regardless of age.

In two weeks, all of you "but the flu!" folks are going to be walking back your comments faster than your Chosen One and talking about how you "always knew it was very, very deadly."

BTE,
Yes, we have all seen with same photo on social media of a completely empty triage unit.
Lotsa TDS on display.
China is responsible for this.
Our politicians certainly didnt help with our lack of preparedness and allowing our medical and medicinal supply source to be another country.
Not to sound like a Bernie Bros.but kinda hatd to get masks, meds, and testing supplies when they are all made by someone else who just happens to be using them and selling the rest to the 100+ other countries with infected.
That whole nationalism thing sure does seem a lot sweeter to the ears about now.

I have no doubt some are going to suffer a terrible death. I would also like to ask the same rhetorical ? posed above and by many- are we gping way too overboard on this?
If we wreck our economy with hundreds of thousands out of work, countless businesses shuttered, and great recession like not seen since the 30s?
The flu death # ? gets brought out a lot so i will pull it out again- how many people die of the flu each yr in America?
What is the diff in comparing these 2 and their death toll in regards to what are or arent willing to do to fight them because it sure does seem like quite a staggeringly expanded sacrifice.

You can’t compare flu numbers with this until it’s over. Most people don’t get the flu because there are vaccines available and there is some immunity to similar strains. Nobody has any immunity to COVID-19. Most estimates say by doing nothing that 50% to 80,% of people will get infected in the first year There are 330 million Americans, so between 115 million and 264 million would be infected. COVID is more deadly than the flu. We don’t know what the actual mortality rate is, but even using a low-end estimate of 0.5% you would see between 575,000 and 1,320,000 Americans die. Compare that with the 36,000 flu deaths per year.

We can get this under control without wrecking the economy if we all work together. As it is we are going to see infected people going out and about infecting others with no end in sight. I never thought I’d see the day China is better than the USA, but here we are.

If we let it run wide open, then death rates of ~5% will be the norm. What does that do to us as a country... if we lose 5% of our workforce, our GDP? And if other countries do not...

This is not China's fault. It is our own. History has clearly shown, without any doubt, that pandemics are the norm, not the exception. Go read 'guns, germs, and steel'. New 'bugs' have jumped the species barrier many, many times. This will continue. There is no stopping it.

@ 10:52 PM
True, not many are reporting the numbers hospitalized. We have limited information. All states should be releasing that information. More information, either good or bad, would help guide our fears and help us to plan.

@Better Than Ever:
The numbers posted are mortality rates. The patients died. Mortally died. Mortality rate. What we do not know is the nature of any underlying conditions these people had.

I hope and pray for the safety of those on the front line as they care for the sick. While we shouldn't take it lightly, we don't want to panic either. We are a strong country and are well prepared to overcome this situation.

@9:37 PM
Stop putting out numbers? So unless we have perfect information, we can't make a comment? I don't claim to 'know', but I did post my source. We always have to plan and act with less than perfect information. By all means, I want more information, not less.

@ 12:07 AM
For the record, my 'Chosen One' was not a politician. He walked the Earth over 2,000 years ago and He told us to be not afraid and that He would leave for a time and send a Helper to guide and comfort us. He promised that He would return at the appointed time.

In an effort to show the real number difference in 'flattening the curve', here are the projected numbers for the next 3 weeks. One shows a 33% daily increase and the other shows 50%.

1 207 207
2 275 311
3 366 466
4 487 699
5 648 1,048
6 861 1,572
7 1,146 2,358
8 1,524 3,537
9 2,027 5,305
10 2,695 7,958
11 3,585 11,937
12 4,768 17,905
13 6,341 26,857
14 8,434 40,286
15 11,217 60,429
16 14,919 90,644
17 19,843 135,966
18 26,391 203,949
19 35,099 305,924
20 46,682 458,885
21 62,087 688,328

It occurs to me that we won't actually see _reported_ figures this high since the testing labs can't possibly process more than a few thousand (latest I heard was 4,000 tests a day) tests per day.