Friday, February 25, 2022

Ukraine Thread

 Real war broke out in Ukraine after Russia invaded the country but the Ukraine people are fighting back. Apparently no one wants to spend time as a Russian prisoner.  The news is moving fast so consider this an open thread on the subject.  Comment here, post videos and links as you see fit. 

57 comments:

Anonymous said...

What happens if we drop a big ass bomb right on Putin's head?

Anonymous said...

Putin and his military commanders made the genius move of occupying Pripyat, Ukraine at the site of the Chernobyl Power station. They have set up their mobile command center and are daring anyone to launch a cruise missile.

Cap a Commie said...

The Ukraines parliament established an emergency "second amendment" to allow their citizens to defend themselves against the Ruskies.

Lock and load. Homegrown snipers.

Anonymous said...

Imagine being a Ukrainian politician who paid the Bidens millions and then finding out you can’t even get a drone strike out of the current administration!

Anonymous said...

Can someone explain to me why I should be willing to die, or have my friends/family members die, to protect Ukraine's borders?

Anonymous said...

The USA needs to stop being the "world police". This is Europe's problem.

Anonymous said...

Democrats love to preach about securing and respecting country borders. Except for ours

Anonymous said...

Trump was right about NATO.

Stars and Stripes: German army chief says service ‘stands bare’ from neglect as its forces are placed on deployment alert

The highest ranking officer in the German army on Thursday publicly lamented years of fiscal neglect and the army’s deteriorating readiness, as the U.S. and NATO allies mobilize in response to Russian aggression in Ukraine.

Anonymous said...

11:30 thinks Putin is a genius and 11:35 tries to make it all about Joe Biden, while 11:39 is afraid Ukraine will somehow involve him personally.

Putin invaded a sovereign country after publicly declaring that country does not exist. What's wrong with you people?

Anonymous said...

We can expect more problems like this in our future. The people elected a weak president. Russia and China has been waiting for such a chance for many years. America has no choice but to watch as our country circles the drain. If something happens to our very weak president we would be put in a worse place. How far down the list would we have to go to find a suitable president?

Anonymous said...

In 2020, [Chief of German land forces Lt. Gen. Alfons] Mais said in an interview that not a single brigade-sized unit in the German army was ready for deployment.

Let THAT sink in.

Anonymous said...

We need to invade Mexico and take that shithole over, then attack the drug cartels and secure our border and the Central American border. Were WE Russia, this would have been done years ago. I am serious. Think about it.

Anonymous said...

Bidens handlers are sending our Border Patrol agents to Poland to help on that border while we’re invaded.

Anonymous said...

Imagine being the Ukrainian president and having the leader of the free world refuse to provide the promised and allocated funds and unless you publicly announced an investigation into Hillary Clinton.

Anonymous said...

@11:33 - the law passed allows them to publicly carry the guns they were already allowed to own. It’s an open carry law, not a right to own guns because they already had them.

Anonymous said...

Pres. Joe Xiden has a big conflict of interest regarding Ukraine.

The Ukraine is just Putin getting his foot in the door. It won't end here, and once he enters a NATO member country it is "game on." An attack on one NATO member country is an attack on all NATO members.

Once Joe Xiden has some ice cream he could have a lucid moment - it could happen.

Anonymous said...

Everyone who voted for a senile weak man to run America is complicit. But hey, at least no more mean tweets.

Anonymous said...

Not to worry if something happens to Crazy Joe, because Harris said "I got this." Oh wait, if something happened to Harris, I also heard crazy Pelosi say "I got this."

What could go wrong?

Anonymous said...

Roger Wicker appears to be publicly breaking with the Republicans on this one. He put out a statement calling out Trump’s buddy as a modern day Adolph Hitler:

“My colleagues, Europe is at war at this very moment. The lives of tens of thousands of young Europeans hang in the balance at this very moment because of the delusional dictatorship currently in control in Russia and because of his brazen attack. The free world deserves better than this modern-day Adolf Hitler. If Vladimir Putin’s recent words and deeds have a haunting familiarity, it is because they are directly out of the Nazi madman’s notebook.

I mean no offense to the Russian delegates to this assembly. In effect, they have no alternative but to parrot the Putin line. If they took a position to the contrary, they would upon returning to Moscow meet a fate similar to those of Mikhail Khodorkovsky, Boris Nemtsov, Sergei Magnitski, and Alexey Navalny.”

Anonymous said...

What a bunch of fucktards.

This site….operated by a closeted homosexual who would be killed in Russia….has to approve posts….censoring what is seen…..about a guy who would let nothing negative be seen and who would murder his opponents….

Y’all are a mess….

If you like to bitch then….fuck Putin

Anonymous said...

Democrats love to preach about securing and respecting country borders. Except for ours

Troglodyte comment of the day goes to the genius that made that comment!?

We are actually comparing Mexicans coming across the border to get a damn job picking strawberries to a freakin' hysterical dictator invading a sovereign independent nation!?

It is downright criminal how the Mississippi Republican Party have you people so damn twisted!?

Anonymous said...

Putin is the richest man in the world. He moved his yacht to a Russian seaport from Finland just before the Ukraine broke out.
The Russian people are poor & being duped.
F**K all the Russian Leaders.

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Anonymous said...

President Zelensky pledged to stamp out corruption in Ukraine once he became President. He began an investigation into Burisma. VP Biden did not like this because Hunter Biden was being paid millions by Burisma and so Biden threatened to withhold aid from Ukraine if the investigation wasn't stopped. The investigation was stopped, however we all know the dirt was there and that Zelensky knows the dirt. Fast forward to 2022- Biden is now President, and Russia attacks Ukraine and will murder Zelensky. Coincidence?

Anonymous said...

So what? Because Putin invades Ukraine this is somehow my problem? Still don't see why I should care, much less support a full scale war with Russia.

Anonymous said...

What I find comical is all the people on social media who were so outspoken against the former administration and all in on the Biden administration are dead silent on every aspect of his presidency since taking office. The way they labeled Trump supporters and we’re vile towards all of them will not accept the reality that Biden is a horrible president and partially(not 100%) at fault for the state of the country and world at the moment. The gas prices that are crippling the lower class the most are 110% Biden’s fault. This war wouldn’t have much affect on gas prices if he didn’t shut down the Key Stone pipeline week one. I remember who you are and remind you of your actions. Thankfully, I don’t hang around many people that voted for him.

Anonymous said...

@1:12 is absolutely right.
Putin rarely misses the annual WEF gatherings at Davos. Putin, like Hitler, isn’t doing this because he is some unhinged madman. It’s all part of a bigger plan.

Remember that WWI lead to the Balfour Declaration. And Hitlers Blitz eventually lead to the creation of the State of Israel, out of the British Mandate of Palestine, in 1947 by Great Britain.

Anonymous said...

You should care because when a well armed country brazenly invaded a sovereign nation after publicly stating the plan to do so, there isn’t much resolve to keep said country from doing it to others and eventually to you. The United States needs to send weapons and communications tools to Ukraine and make life absolutely miserable for Russia by whatever means are available and carry the least risk of major economic deprivation for everyday people. The Russians are exploding neighborhoods and blew out the windows of a kindergarten overnight. How would you feel if your six year old’s school was bombed and you suddenly didn’t have a job or reliable way to eat or keep your family alive? Ukraine did nothing to cause this problem except exist. This is the free world’s problem and the free world would do well to respond swiftly and decisively lest we do find the U.S. in a two-theater war again. If you think China won’t exploit this, you are delusional.

Anonymous said...

@1:00 I assume you don’t know about the Mexican cartels in the US, or the gangs, or the rapers, or the murderers, or their drain on “the system”. I guess because they aren’t an assembled military force they are all humble Hispanics looking for work. The Americans in the room would like to tell you the same thing the Ukrainians that died for their country told the Russian war ship. If you haven’t read that, then go **** yourself.

Anonymous said...

The CIA and their operatives are getting woodies over this conflict, because they will be making big bucks moving weapons of war into Ukraine, just like during Russian's little adventure into Afghanistan (which we didn't learn a fucking thing from, right Bush?)

Meanwhile, Pres. Joe Xiden is drooling on his icecream while Harris is re-reading the 25th Amendment for the 957th time.

Anonymous said...

11:39 AM Ukraine is a sovereign nation! To protect freedom. Do you seriously think that Putin will stop there? With an attitude like yours, you'd better practice your Russian.

12:00 My God. We are in this position due to TRUMP. Putin played to his ego perfectly. No telling what information he gave him.

12:21 If you think it was only mean tweets we didn't like...
I'm a lifelong Republican and Trump is the most dangerous thing that ever happened to this country! We will never recover from him!!!

12:52 you are sick. Get some help.

1:25 It's damn mutual! You Trumpsters are impossible and intolerable.

Anonymous said...

So the entire argument on why I should care boils down to slippery slope and some vague, boomer, Cold War era notion of “defending the free world.”

Yawn.

Try again.

Anonymous said...

I hope all the easily offended/delicate youths of America have TikTok'd and Minecraft'd a battle skillset some how.

They may find out why the greatest generation found them to be hilariously weak, really soon.

Good luck to He/Her/They/Them if we do get pulled into a real war.

Anonymous said...

Here’s one for the non-interventionists

https://nationalinterest.org/feature/ukraine-demands-transatlantic-course-correction-200818

Bill Dees said...

If you want current, live, reliable information about what's going on in Ukraine, turn on the BBC News channel. Everything else is entertainment, or pure BS.

Anonymous said...

I'm a lifelong Republican ...

Card carrying? Pay annually to the MSGOP?

Anonymous said...

I heard Putin is gassing Ukrainian toddlers and taking all they yellow cake!

Anonymous said...

1:04 PM, You did a lot better job with your comment than 12:52 PM.

Anonymous said...

The good guy hackers are working on Russia. Hopefully they can do some damage.

https://cybernews.com/news/anonymous-leaks-database-of-the-russian-ministry-of-defence/

Anonymous said...

I wasn’t a Trumper but he apparently was right about NATO… meanwhile we pay there bills

Anonymous said...

I imagine Bill Clinton is feeling pretty good right now after assuring the Ukrainians he would protect them if they gave up their nukes. I think Putin is sick and believes he’s running out of time to assure his legacy. He wants that statue in Red Square to say Hero Of The Fatherland. But it will never happen.

Anonymous said...

Except for Lady G and Romney, Roger Wicker has been one of the most outspoken about Putin. I wish Mississippians would stop re-electing this neocon warmonger who is even willing to have nuclear war against Russia, but unfortunately he has his seat for life. Ukraine is not a democracy, and Putin has warned that he wants buffer states surrounding him and that he finds NATO a threat.

Anonymous said...

@11:26, they drop several other big ass bombs right on the top of various places here in the US. (And, BTW, I bet Putin would not be at the place where we aimed, although if it were nuclear, he would be close enough - but then so would most of us be within range of those they sent our way.)

Yes,that's a cute thought. But if you don't realize the consequences of such cute things, you are no better than Trump or Biden.

As Eisenhower said back in the 50's - the only way to win WWIII is to not ever have WWIII.

Anonymous said...

1232, Wicker is not breaking from the Republicans. He is differing from the RINO Trump who thinks Putin is a genius and is only 'providing peace keepers' for Ukraine. I don't know who you think Wicker is breaking from - most I have heard have disagreed totally with Putin, and with Biden, and with Trump (for those that want to make America's stand a binary choice between our current incopacitated President and our previously incopacitated narcisassistic President.)

This is not a binary choice between whether you think Biden is incapable of handling this international issue. He is. Matter closed.

But; there is no evidence that Trump would have handled it better. Different, maybe - but not better. He would have ignored it, and supported the "genius" who was doing nothing but providing peace keeping to a country that didn't need his peace keeping. His idea that we needed the same thing on the US border would suggest that maybe he thought Canada, or Vensuala, or even Russia, should send some tanks to the US border and prepare to start shooting missles to "provide peacekeeping".

All the Republicans I have heard speak sound similar to Wicker. (Granted, I don't count Trump as a Repubican, I count him as a Trump). So I don't see where he is differentiating himself.

58,000 Ghosts said...


Putin invaded a sovereign country after publicly declaring that country does not exist. What's wrong with you people?

Here...allow me to fix that sentence for you: "Lincoln invaded a sovereign country after publicly declaring that country does not exist."

And all either invaded-country wanted was to be left alone.

Anonymous said...

This would not have happened under trump. Me being from Estonia I can attest that trump would have leveraged US domestic energy to supply Europe with rather than relying on Russia and caving bc energy is needed
You don’t understand the situation as an American clearly. Russia supplies over 55% of energy natural gas to Europe. Americans are closing our energy sources that trump opened up. Pipelines etc… all leverage is to Russia now. I’ve been in gas business over 22 years and in the states for 15. Canada before that. So @11:09… learn more international facts before calling out trump. This isn’t red vs blue. Trump isn’t a pure republican and that’s why I like him. Screw off republican vs Democrats.

Anonymous said...

So if your critical of Trump and Republicans in their response to this crisis your comments don’t get published ! I guess I have to call you a faggot or some other ugly name!

Anonymous said...

We would have troops on the ground in Kiev right now if we believed that the US Armed Forces could defeat Russia. The truth is we couldn’t beat a bunch of illiterate rice farmers in the 60s and 70s, nor a bunch of illiterate goat lovers in the new millennium. The US Military Industrial Complex is a paper tiger and the world clearly knows it.

Anonymous said...

Want to remove a great amount of Putin's leverage? Then open the Keystone Pipeline project back up. The Dems will never do it.

Anonymous said...

11:02 is spot on. Cancel Nordstream and open the Keystone.

Anonymous said...

A new Harvard Center for American Political Studies (CAPS)-Harris Poll survey released Friday found that 62 percent of those polled believed Putin would not be moving against Ukraine if Trump had been president.
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A majority of Americans polled — 59 percent — also said they believed that the Russian president moved on Ukraine because Putin saw weakness in President Biden.

Anonymous said...

And just like that, COVID has disappeared.

Anonymous said...

Not in Dictator Trudeau's world.

Anonymous said...

1:06, Here's another poll for your consideration:

"34% of Americans Can Find Ukraine on a Map."

https://morningconsult.com/2022/02/09/can-americans-find-ukraine-on-a-map/

Anonymous said...

Just because Americans can't find a country on a map that renders their opinion as something less? What is your point 11:53?

Anonymous said...

9:55, With respect to Putin's motivations for invading Ukraine, yes. The fact that only 1/3 of Americans know where Ukraine is located, in relation to Russia, does imply that 2/3 of Americans don't really know much about Russia-Ukraine geopolitics, on which to base their opinions.

You have a right to your opinion, and you have a right to be wrong, but you do not have a right to be right. I'm not saying I know much more about this situation that most other people, but I also don't hold my opinions on the subject out to be fact.

11:53

Anonymous said...

Not a real war. Sorry .

Anonymous said...

9:55 : Well ? If they can't find it on a map then it's also a given they have no grasp of history in the region the last 60 years. Everyone in my house knows the history of incursions, annexing and countries who broke away from mothers tit the last 50 years. Why ? Because I informed them so Savanna Guthrie hosreshit lies goes in one ear and out the other. This Putin crap is no different than the Gaza strip folks and a damned good distraction for those who don't know geography.



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