Thursday, July 25, 2019

Idiots of the Day

or week, or month, or year.  Some Ole Miss frat boys somehow thought it would be a good idea to go shoot up a sign memorializing the Emmitt Till murder.  Of course, it being 2019, the dumbasses did what the Facebook generation does.....



Credit: Jerry Mitchell & Mississippi Center for Investigative Reporting

Jerry Mitchell reported:

Three University of Mississippi students have been suspended from their fraternity house and face possible investigation by the Department of Justice after posing with guns in front of a bullet-riddled sign honoring slain civil rights icon Emmett Till.

One of the students posted a photo to his private Instagram account in March showing the trio in front of a roadside plaque commemorating the site where Till’s body was recovered from the Tallahatchie River. The 14-year-old black youth was tortured and murdered in August 1955. An all-white, all-male jury acquitted two white men accused of the slaying.

The photo, which was obtained by the Mississippi Center for Investigative Reporting and ProPublica, shows an Ole Miss student named Ben LeClere holding a shotgun while standing in front of the bullet-pocked sign. His Kappa Alpha fraternity brother, John Lowe, stands on the other side with an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle. A third fraternity member squats below them. The photo appears to have been taken at night, the scene illuminated by lights from a vehicle. Rest of article.

Kingfish note: Investigate, give them their due process, and if guilty, throw the book at them.


108 comments:

Anonymous said...

So, in less than a week you have this, a murder, and a recently-tenured prof taunting the IHL by saying, "Yeah, I totally meant it when I called Trump supporters Hitler youth."

I realize even a strong Chancellor can't stop murders, but the overall public impression over the last few years has been that the inmates are running the asylum in Oxford.

I'm frankly surprised Phil hasn't used the constant chaos up there as cover to shift more support away from Ole Miss.

Anonymous said...

JJ you need to get the facts before you say that these boys shot the sign. Who is to say that the sign had not already been shot up. These boys may have simply been snipe hunting, got tired of walking so much and rested at the sign before hunting some more.

Anon-E-Mouse said...

Well boys, say goodbye to whatever future you thought was yours for the taking.

Anonymous said...

The prof was right. They are Hitler Youth. This is the kind of trash coming out of a lot of the "family values" households.

Anonymous said...


Kids are idiots. We all are aware of this fact.

However, our society has continuously rewarded bad behavior and this is one more example of how so many parents fail their children.

The first punishment for these dumbasses should be to have their cellphones crushed by a hammer, then a stiff belt put on their behinds.

Anonymous said...

Where's any evidence that the boys 'shot up the sign'? This sign and this entire area has been the site of vandalism for fifty years or more. I would also like to remind readers that 80% of the so called church burnings in the South over the past 40 years have fallen victim to black activities. Google that yourself. In the meantime, consider the one in Greenville three years ago that was blamed on white Trump supporters but, as it turned out, was the action of a black, disgruntled church member.

Rod Knox said...

Yeah, those boy's families will be forever proud of their years spent studying civil rights at Ole Miss.

BTW, do Mississippi universities actually allow students to have firearms on campus?

Anonymous said...

This is terrible. Why in the world would you jeopardize your future doing something so stupid. Stupidity has no race, creed or color. The problem I have is, "They don't think what they're doing is a problem".

Anonymous said...

Hopefully these thugs will be taught some respect in prison.

Anonymous said...

Never heard nary a word about due process on this site when it comes to an arrest in Jackson...

Anonymous said...

Can't we all just get along, hell Phil even thanked Bennie on Twitter today.

Anonymous said...

Own. Worst. Enemy.

Anonymous said...

5:46 What would we do without you statistical geniuses who can so easily tell us that 80% proves your excuse? You should go to work for state government, or a defense law firm, your statistics could obviously prove useful. And of course we all believe you.

Anonymous said...

Just a few good ole boys having a little fun. That's what the jury said when they let Till's CONFESSED killers go free. The south will rise again?

Messick said...

"The first punishment for these dumbasses should be to have their cellphones crushed by a hammer, then a stiff belt put on their behinds"

Hey, Paw-Paw, have you noticed anything about parents today? This won't happen.

Anonymous said...

Ole Miss doing a pretty good job of destroying itself. They need a makeover and an evaluation of their current non athletic recruiting strategy.

Anonymous said...

Brainless thugs like these broadcast this stuff to impress their buddies and their associates. If they have friends and associates who are impressed with this activity, we should be concerned about the political and social climate these fools represent. College students?

Anonymous said...

After recent events, evidence of men that clearly have no sense wandering around Oxford at night with guns (and supposedly a semi automatic one at that) is troubling. There's also a reasonable chance they were not completely clear headed based on the photo. What is going on? At least their fraternity suspended them, even if UM hasn't.

Anonymous said...

Hotty toddy...

Anonymous said...

Wait, there was a murder in Oxford? I keep checking this site and see no mention of one. Pray tell.

Anonymous said...

5:46,
Yup,
Just like the Jewish Cemetery and the Synagogue bomb threats. Trump didn't immediately condemn because he had inside knowledge and he got skewered by the media. And they kept the arrests of the Israeli students very quiet later. Remember Mike Pence went and helped clean up the cemetery but it wasn't enough for the lying media.

Anonymous said...

5:46 and 6:42 Yup. It's that lying media again with their fake facts. Everybody knows that 90% of the facts they present are 100% false and blacks and Jews are responsible for 80% of their own terrorist attacks. These Ole Miss kids are probably just victims of a fake media coverup of their true intention...guarding that sign from black vandals. There's a 90% chance
that this is 100% true.

Anonymous said...

Kappa Alpha ?

Say it ain't so !

The KA's again ?

Laughing Out Loud.

Anonymous said...

Folks always talk about Ole Miss being run over by liberals..I haven't heard of liberals doing this kind of stuff.

Anonymous said...

We really should start using gang laws to bring some measure of accounatibility to these fraternities. There is basically no difference between the two except the demographic of those taking the oath.

Anonymous said...

The kids in the picture heard their dads say:

“To hell with them n+{¥|{\s”

So the kids were taught that making fun of a skinned alive black kid who did not even cat call a white woman...is acceptable.

Sad.

What’s even more sad?

You know what white people would do to black people if the roles were reversed?

White people know and they are scared to death.

Anonymous said...

7:31,
They could be down here to start something just like Goodman and Schwerner were back in the 1960s

Anonymous said...

Picked up by the national press in 3....2.....

Anonymous said...

Hey dummy @7:31
It is so common for certain super sensitive people to fake hate crimes that a site has been created to track their hate hoaxes and include links to mainstream media.

http://www.fakehatecrimes.org

Modern academia has created a number of excuses for this activity as well.

Cousin Eddie said...

At least they didn't shoot the sign up.

It was a good day!

Anonymous said...

7:31 must have his brain fried from smoking dope and watching Jon Oliver because Jussie Smollette wasn't that long ago.

Anonymous said...

KA’s at Ole Miss had the best Old South parties. Now the term Old South is politically incorrect. I guess dressing up as confederate soldiers and waving a rebel flag puts thoughts in young men’s minds. But naw, the state flag is fine. This is our heritage.

Anonymous said...

"Reverend" Jesse and "Reverend" Al in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1...

Anonymous said...

6:06 - I'm not here to do your research for you, but, this will get you started. Come back and summarize what you find, later.

https://quillette.com/2019/02/22/hate-crime-hoaxes-are-more-common-than-you-think/

T T T said...

Then There's This...

https://www.nationalreview.com/2015/11/black-church-burnings-race-hoaxes-michelle-malkin/

Anonymous said...

Mississippi law is you can have guns on campus. Second Amendment is still in force.

Barfolomew said...

What in the @#$& is wrong with that "university" (wink, wink)? Ole Miss is doing an excellent job attracting high quality students as of late. Students shooting other students and dumping the bodies in the woods, gun toting frat bros chilling beside memorials to a kid who was tortured to death, nooses on civil rights statues... A fine institution you've got there Mississippi. Will only reinforce our HR department policy of red flagging any resume that includes a reference to time spent at Ole Miss- too much potential baggage.

Anonymous said...

State fans, feeling the beat down that’s going to come this Egg Bowl, have made this bullshit up. Corral is for real. Oxford attracts that talent, even from as far away as California. State meanwhile has a Yankee head coach with a bunch of 3 star players. Read this, State folks. Weep. Now go back to where you belong. HOTTY TODDY!

Anonymous said...

I don't see what the fuss is all about. The sign is sheet metal. The FBI declined to investigate because there was no crime.

What blacks do to one another on the streets of Jackson and in every city in America is the real tragedy.

Anonymous said...

Just when you thought Mitchell's days of towering investigative journalism were over he busts three stupid black bear cubs. Mitchell's back. Jerry Mitchell is back!

Anonymous said...

Y'all raise some outstanding young men down in the Landmass that ranks last in every thing good and first in everything bad.
I can't serve on their jury, pictures proudly posted to the internet don't lie. They are guilty and should be made to stand guard at this sign in shorts day and night for a year.

Anonymous said...

Yes 8:51 Goodman and Schwerner were here to start something: Freedom to vote.
Troublemakers huh.

Anonymous said...

The terms ole' Missus' and "rebels" are what drive this behavior, and worse.

Boys will be boys said...

"Hold my hotty toddy and watch this."

Anonymous said...

When "social media" was a new thing, teens and young adults putting photographic evidence of their stupidity, lapse(s) in judgement, outright criminal behavior, etc., before the court of public opinion and not realizing the full implications of doing it was at least understandable to a certain extent. In 2019 however, anyone, even young people, doing so shows an alarming lack of awareness.

Now as to this particular picture, it is true that the picture itself does not prove these idiots shot it up nor does it prove they are racist (real or wannabe) or anything else about their true beliefs on any subject. It does show and serve as strong evidence of their aforementioned lack of awareness on a variety of fronts including subjecting themselves to reasonable accusations of racism _by the entire world_. I am going to guess that they will get an opportunity to learn several valuable life lessons if any of them choose to do so.

Anonymous said...

@9:34 Dressing up as confederate soldiers and waving a rebel flag indicates that there are NO thoughts in young men's minds. The state flag is a reminder of that.

Anonymous said...

I watched Dukes of Hazzard for Daisy Duke! not the rebel flag on top of General Lee.....

Kingfish said...

It is a safe bet that quite a few pictures of that sign have been taken over the years. If it was shot up by someone else, then someone should be able to dig up some photos of that sign that will have the same bullet holes.

Anonymous said...

Charged with vandalism, malicious mischief, sure. Hate crime, GTFOH. Throwing this hate crime around gives more weight to the fact that just because the metal sign bears the name of an AA civil rights martyr, it should be a hate crime. Yes the kids were stupid for doing it, even more ignorant for posting to social media, but at the end of the day it is just a metal sign. Calling everything a hate crime every time the AA community gets upset is not getting us anywhere.

Side note: I bet they get to the bottom of this a lot quicker than the nooses found around the capital city before the CHS and Mike Espy run off.

Plain ol' Catfish said...

It's safe to assume they did not shoot the sign and it doesn't warrant any kind of legal action.

However, the optics of it cannot be debated and it will go viral nationally.

They are attending a university in a state that has a confederate emblem on the state flag, they are familiar with the history of the story and chosen to lean with the killers of Emmett Till by posing with guns in front of the sign, they are members of a fraternity with a dark history of displaying and partaking in racist behavior, so how are people supposed to take this picture? Some kind of cute little joke? No - they took that picture as some kind of condescending "f*ck you" message and should be held accountable accordingly

It's no different than the three members of Sigma Phi Epsilon hung a noose around the statue of James Meredith at Ole Miss back in February of 2014. They were kicked out of the fraternity and the chapter was suspended.

It's bad optics for Mississippi, period. What adds fuel to the fire for me, is that a bulk of these kids are out-of-state students that come in with the mindset that "Confederate" imagery is what Mississippi is really about.

That's why it is so important we change the tone and send a message with a new state flag. So that when these kids from out of state - get to Ole Miss, Mississippi State, or Southern Miss - they know from the get-go, that this is a new Mississippi and racist behavior is a thing of the past and will not be tolerated.

Anonymous said...

I hunt right near that sign

It gets shot the day after its put up

It stays shot up

These guys could shot the sign also....which is a stupid act....but they were not the first.

I’m gonna put this sign on Tate reeves car and see what he thinks.

Anonymous said...

OM is their own worst enemy, but they have not figured that fact out.

Anonymous said...

@7:00 AM
Do you mean to tell me that Goodman and Schwerner weren't student communists? Because they in fact were part of the communist vanguard attempting to start a race war that could be transformed into communist revolution. Communists in the 1960s and 1970s were most certainly terrorists who participated in bombings as wells as bank robberies and hijacked airplanes.

The media made them martyrs and attempts to hide the communist connections of the "movements" of the 1960s. There was more to their deaths than racism and antisemitism. They saw themselves as soldiers and they wrote as much in their journals.

You know who was in their chain of command? None other than Saul Alinsky himself.

Anonymous said...

We need a national push to increase the voting age to 25, maybe 30.

Anonymous said...

Bash away at Ole Miss all you want.

I wasn't competitive for admission to my home state's university system. I never finished high school, grew up in a home where both adults learned English as a second language, got in Ole Miss without trouble. Got out with honors. Went to professional school. Two of my kids went there for free (Thank You Mr. Barksdale!) both are professionals. Our third child graduated from an Ivy League school and has done well also but no better than our Ole Miss grads.

God bless Ole Miss and the wonderful free market economy that allows the very refuse of the world to prosper. As for the boys with the picture: who gives a shit? Anybody with time to worry about kids and pranks needs more work to do.

Anonymous said...

That image won't be erased from Google for decades.....it will be a potent reminder of how little Mississippi has improved for years to come. Their intent was clear as a bell. Folks, they are broadly SMILING, holding guns, and standing in front of a memorial that is a flashpoint of horrific tragedy in the Civil Rights movement. Oxford breeds this attitude on a daily basis, and it is the disease that keeps Mississippi at the bottom......but OM's endowment approaches a billion dollars. Something wrong with that picture? You bet. Not one Mississippi leader is loundly condemning it on either side out of fear.

Anonymous said...

Yes, there are hoaxes and yes there is " fake news". But the real problem is that too many of us are so intellectually bereft and lazy that they believe such nonsense.

Some of you obviously can't read. This was posted by one of the guys shown in the photo. None of the news stories suggested these guys shot this sign. It was stated the sign has been repeatedly shot and vandalized.

If these guys were just out hunting and were drunk and didn't nothing except decide this would make a great photo, it is not unreasonable to conclude that a college education is wasted on them. Perhaps, they can memorize pages in a text or notes taken in class, but they gain no knowledge from what they can regurgitate in the short term on a test. Words and deeds have meaning and meaning is lost on these yahoos.

And, some of the comments here beg the question , " Do you often take photos at spots where dead bodies were recovered and smile happily in the photo with a weapon?"




Anonymous said...

Whole thing sucks, man. I went to OM, loved my time there, and met both awesome people and total asswipes. I like to think the good people outweigh the bad, but I'm also a white dude from Mississippi, and don't have much chance to experience discrimination. However, my attitudes toward other people are purely a byproduct of my upbringing. I'm lucky enough to have parents that walk the walk. Not everyone is.

My parents first language is English said...

@ July 26, 2019 at 9:20 AM

As for the boys with the picture: who gives a shit? Anybody with time to worry about kids and pranks needs more work to do.

I give a sh*t! By giving them a pass for their actions that means you condone that behavior and co-sign the message they are relaying with that picture.

The death of Emmett Till is a stain on Mississippi's history and NO ONE WAS EVER HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR HIS DEATH you condescending snarky bastard!

Anonymous said...

Young Landsharks trying to be macho and impress some honey-dripping sorority girls. This is not new! Being 21, stupid, drunk, and clueless is not new either. Nothing of note here folks so move along.

Anonymous said...

@9:20 You sound like a second generation immigrant whose family has greatly benefitted from the wealth and generosity of the United States of America. You're welcome.

Of course you wouldn't understand love of your state or nation, and are a simple Socialist who doesn't have time to consider what brought he and his children's well-being into existence. "There are no hyphenated Americans." - Teddy Roosevelt. Either you consider yourself an American....or you're just visiting.

Anonymous said...

Agreed 9:20, is it stupid? yes, is it newsworthy? No. Guess what people, college kids, especially boys, do stupid shit. I like commas, write about that.

Anonymous said...

Wouldn't it be nice if people cared as much about people getting shot up on the streets of Jackson as they do some piece of tin out in the boonies?

Anonymous said...

This reminds me to make sure that any photos taken in the Vicksburg Military Park of family be deleted immediately to avoid publication of our racist intent when visiting. OMG - I just remembered that one of my kids may have been smiling next to a Confederate monument!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

It appears that these lads have been suspended from KA. Apparently, they do not face action from Ole Miss as it was not a school-connected event. Again, I will guess they will get numerous chances to learn valuable life lessons if they begin to make wise choices rather than stupid ones.

Anonymous said...

No crime no threat, no violation of conduct. The end..

Anonymous said...

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/06/us/emmett-till-sign-bullets.html

Seems like in 2018 it was shot up "AGAIN" and replaced. Its a flat sign in the delta. Just about every rural sign in the delta has bullet holes in it or dings from throwing beer bottles at it. Limited recreation. Would shooting at the Lake Charlie Capps sign be considered a hate crime?

Anonymous said...

Don't worry boys, you can always go work for CNN. They have an editor who celebrated the deaths of victims of Islamic terrorist bombings by referring to the 'Jewish pigs'.

CNN let the guy resign yesterday, years after his egregious behavior and hate spewing continued.

Democrat party: the new home of anti-semitism.

Anonymous said...

Dean Vernon Wormer: Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son.

Anonymous said...

Nothing to see here, snowflakes. Go back to your safe spaces and hug your comfort dogs. Maybe a little hot chocolate will help.

Anonymous said...

It’s just a sign.
It’s just a statue.
It’s just a monument.
It’s just a flag.

Put all of it in the same museum. That way both sides will be pissed. That’s equality.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for your fine investigative work, 11:15. I had no idea until now that this story was really about Democrats and CNN. All this time, I thought it was about some college students disrespecting, and possibly vandalizing, a monument memorializing one of the worst miscarriages of justice in our Country (which, by the way, resulted in the death of an innocent child). And let’s be real about which political party these kids belong to. If you think it’s the Democratic Party, do the world a favor and take a break from the internet. You, and all the posters on here who think like you do, are a real piece of work.

By the way, I thought the Confederate flag waiving crowd loved history. How would you same guys react if it were a confederate monument that was getting shot up? Would you all of the sudden be a snowflake about it too?

Theca Jones of the Roguish Gent Podcast said...

Very interesting how people are trying to defend this. Y'all keep telling on yourselves and I just kept laughing. Willing to mention black culture at every post about Jackson, but something like this happens and not a word said about the culture that is very much alive at Ole Miss. Enjoy your PBR's and the Grove.

Anonymous said...

Help me understand the logic Republicans. I guess it’s only history and culture if the statue is of a civil war traitor. If it’s a memorial for a black kid who was tortured and murdered without any consequences for the murderers, then we break out the guns and shoot that statue? Am I missing something?

Anonymous said...

The idiotic comments here just remind me of why I left Mississippi, the state that's last in everything good and first in everything bad. Ole Miss fosters this kind of behavior, as does Kappa Alpha. KA either needs to be shut down nationally or just replace their letters with "Proud Boys."

Anonymous said...

@9:47 Socialist? Boy did you get that wrong. Hyphenated American? Not this kid. No you must be a good bit smarter than you come across to read those "facts" into my post. I ain't going nowhere. My father became a citizen by volunteering for service during WW I (one). I volunteered in 1960. How about you?

But to give you your due. He did have a cousin who swam ashore in the East River -- bypassed Ellis Island.

Tell you what else oh great nativist. You don't own America. I bet I own more than you. Don't be pissed off just because I actually realized my potential instead of whining about somebody else's success.

Education really is the ability to analyze, i.e., to synthesize knowledge instead of parroting what some other moron has "taught" you.

Anonymous said...

We're glad you left MS please don't come back.. As I understand it, one kid was from NOLA and the other from Memphis not sure about the others..

Anonymous said...

What non of y'all understand is that the real Confederates hated America so much that the fled to Brazil and uphold the southern traditions to this day.

They are known as Confederados and along with Japanese Brazialians are one of the smallest and most homogeneous ethnic groups in Brazil. Look it up it is amazing.

What you see in Mississippi today is just a bunch of carpetbaggers descendants posing and southerners.

Anonymous said...

Hey 2:05. Jefferson Davis never went to Brazil and he was never tried for treason either.

And he didn’t take the oath to be reinstated as a US citizen either.

Anonymous said...

A number of commenters seem to have figured it all out, whatever "it" is. We also seem to have a number of newly-politically-aware would-be wonderkinds, who got the political inside scoop from some obscure Internet crackpot or cable-TV blowhard.

I suspect I could learn a lot more from following around 9:20/1:55 for a few days than I could in a lifetime of political navel-gazing and immigrant bashing.

Anonymous said...

I feel like this should be become a legitimate protest against the left. Everyone should make pilgrimages to pose with guns in from of the sign in solidarity. Even if you feel the need to wear a balaclava.

Unconnected Dots said...

Plain Meal Catfish opining that 'it's optics that matter' is as much nonsense as claiming that because a racist hate group adopted a flag is reason enough to tear them all down. Doofus nonsense. But it often prevails rat cheer on this blog.

Anonymous said...

@1:55 You sound like a limousine liberal.....do you even care what that picture represents symbolically? Your indifference and apathy about it is disturbing no matter what your "success" has been.

Anonymous said...

Since the civil war there has been the overwhelming desire among persons living in or even visiting Mississippi to remind the rest of the nation that we revel in our ignorance. We love it and we guard it like gold. These young men are merely the latest standard bearers of that proud tradition. The name Ole Miss is practically synonymous with that movement nationwide and has few rivals. We are to intelligence what water is to fire. Long may our flag flap in the wind.

Anonymous said...

Plain Meal Catfish opining that 'it's optics that matter' is as much nonsense as claiming that because a racist hate group adopted a flag is reason enough to tear them all down. Doofus nonsense. But it often prevails rat cheer on this blog.

Says the person who can't understand why this story has gone viral.

Anonymous said...

FBI and the DOJ have investigated and cleared the young men.

Anonymous said...

These dudes are going to be tried in the court of public opinion. The Advocate had identified one of them as being a local graduate of a private school in Baton Rouge.I would be willing to bet that members of his own family will be disowning him in follow up interviews.

Anonymous said...

@12:33
I dont understand how you people can become so stupid. Is it because of TV? The FBI doesn't clear people. There was no evidence of a crime to pursue investigation. Posing with rifles in front of a bullet riddled sheet metal sign is not a crime anywhere in Mississippi.

Anonymous said...

@6:03
No they arent.
Do you remember the guy in scrubs who called the woman working in the donut shop an N word?
Do you remember any of the guys charged with child porn last year?
Do you know that the guy who owns Gulf Relay trucking company is convicted child sex offender?

You wouldn't recognize these guys bagging your groceries at Kroger either.

Anonymous said...

The Gulf Relay guy was caught in an online child sex sting, signed a plea to a lesser crime of cyberstalking, and received a full pardon from Gov Barbour. He never had to register as a sex offender. It's good to be a rich MSGOP donor.

Anonymous said...

9:15 am: Your bashing of the metered Civil Rights workers is highly offensive to any normal person and proof that we still have plenty of nuts running around this place. Go to hades.

Unconnected Dots Again.. said...

At 10:37...Oh, I understand full well why bullshit stories like this go viral. I also understand why stories about the black church member in Greenville torching his own church and painting Vote Trump on the building DO NOT GO VIRAL. The answer is regional arrogance and selective indignation. If you can't understand those two terms, I can't help you further. Regional arrogance prevails today as it did 160 years ago.

As was said above, every flat, ground-level sign in most of this state (especially the Delta where hunting is prevalent) has at least one bullet hole in it. These boys are simply guilty of pranking, nothing more. Just like all the ghetto boyz who pose with gang symbols, stupid hand signs and all manner of weaponry. And more than a few of THOSE boys are involved in criminal activity. Show me the violent or criminal activity records of the three boys shown at the Till sign.

And, as to Theca Jones, nobody should ever reply to this guy/gal as he makes zero sense, is a troll and a race baiting agitator.

Anonymous said...

6:36am wrote,

"No they arent.
Do you remember the guy in scrubs who called the woman working in the donut shop an N word?
Do you remember any of the guys charged with child porn last year?
Do you know that the guy who owns Gulf Relay trucking company is convicted child sex offender?

You wouldn't recognize these guys bagging your groceries at Kroger either."

That's not how this works...that not how any of this works...

You are correct insofar as the vast majority of the people these boys encounter will not recognize or remember them from this picture and so likely as not, no interviewer, HR person, etc. will recognize them either. But if and when they are vetted, including a online search of their social media history, their names will pop up in connection with this. Now, if it were pictures of some 70s-80s-90s-style wild college party (just "wild," no one really injured and no extreme racially or sexually offensive conduct) or similar, it likely wouldn't affect much, but being connected to something like this in 2019 will - not "might," WILL - set off alarms for many employers. Will it matter if their intended life course is going to work for a family business or small employer in their home area? Nope. Will it matter is they wish to work for a larger, national company, multi-national corporation, reasonably-visible governmental position, or even need a higher-level security clearance? It very likely will matter, both because of the content itself as well as the appalling lack of common sense it demonstrates.

I submit Brett Kavanaugh as exhibit A, and whatever happened there if anything at all, happened long before "social media" existed. If there had been a single picture of him acting in least bit inappropriately with a female, he would not have been confirmed and likely wouldn't have even made it to a confirmation vote.

Anonymous said...

College teaches academics, not intellegence.

Anonymous said...

@12:08
Until privacy laws are passed to forbid snooping into our social media history by everyone except the federal government.

Anonymous said...

@8:57
Thanks to people like you we can cross the Pearl river into Jackson and catch a glimpse of Hades. Perhaps the river should be renamed Styx.

Anonymous said...

Intelligence is not taught, 12:23. But you knew that. College indoctrinates and promotes memorization.

Anonymous said...

They are acting just like parents taught them to make America great again.

Anonymous said...

They are acting just like parents taught them to make America great again.

Wrong. They aren't dealing with Jackson's rat infestation or defending our border from invaders. They are just posing for a picture.

Anonymous said...

Yea, let's just start with I didn't vote for Trump but am slowly converting. So do what you want with that. I am horrified to think anyone would disrespect this recognition of a 14 YEAR OLD CHILD who was slaughtered for at the very worst trying to flirt with a white woman - and she now says her testimony was not true. Do you even know what happened to him - WTH? He was tortured and killed. It's not a little thing to go pose in front of this memorial, especially with guns, especially on the anniversary, it's a supreme act of disrespect to the murder of a child in what was a racist society. I am so over the liberal craze at UM but this is not a part of that - it's common decency to not celebrate the murder of a child based on his race. Ugh.

Anonymous said...

Ain't no liberal "craze" at UM.....just the administration trying to stay relevant nationally while they attempt to hang on to their nickname/mascot references, and of course the "state" flag behind closed doors.

@9:51....."murder of a child in what WAS a racist society?...." Wake up from your slumber fella. You still in Mississippi, and Oxford wants you to know it good and hard....no matter what their press release denies.

Anonymous said...

we live in a racist society
Let me try to word this in a way that will meet the approval of KF. Statistically speaking, violent crimes are committed in far greater numbers by blacks against whites. I think the fact the white people don't riot due to these disgusting statistics is a testament to how racist we are not. And this social media post is nothing more than a benign protest of the state of modern non-racist society.

Anonymous said...

1:37PM wrote,

"@12:08
Until privacy laws are passed to forbid snooping into our social media history by everyone except the federal government."

A person cannot have an expectation of privacy when they do something "publicly." If you post something to "social media" as it currently you cannot reasonably have an expectation of privacy. Even if a myriad of changes were made, it would not cover existing pictures/texts/posts insofar as making private what was once public. Plus, most social media platform terms (to which you must agree for access) actually or substantively waive all such claims of privacy. Moreover, access to social media history can be made a condition of employment, legitimate investigation, etc. Moreover still, while it may or may not be a crime to gain access to the social media of others, once that access is obtained (legally or illegally) and the picture/text/post/etc. is reposted to a public forum, there is no effective way to undo it. People do not have any "right" to private free "social media" access so the best course of action is to consider anything posted to social media as "public" and accessible, or at least obtainable by anyone, for all time.

Anonymous said...

The most disturbing thing about this photo is too many of the comments above.
Some of you believe absolutely ridiculous justifications for past murders. I hope it's just that you can't face that your relatives racists and murderers. One of mine was too but we know he was a hateful human being who was hateful to everyone.
Some of you are obviously racist while claiming not to be ( other white Southerners know the " code" ...usually involves communism and reverence for all things Confederate from those whose families never fought with Lee and likely weren't even here yet). Worse, you hypocritically don't mind our President doing nothing about Communist interference in our elections and schmoozing real Communists. Hell, you don't even know that Russia and North Korea and China are still Communists governments even though they are more economically realistic now. They still have total government control over commerce dummies and you ,too want to give ONE party that same power.
You are a racists when you assume the worst about a race of people because of the color of their skin and don't judge individuals you meet based only on their personal behavior and actions. It is also when you accept behaviors that are clearly disrespectful to an entire race simply because they don't look like you or are culturally different. And, there have always been different cultures and religions in the US and none of them have achieved perfection.

Anonymous said...

I'm 100% certain that if there was evidence they SHOT the sign rather than just taking pictures with it, they'd be locked up. It's a picture with no context. Maybe they were guarding the sign. Who knows?
I'm with the comment at 920 who said we need more important things to occupy our mind rather than the outrage du jour that this is. You're not alone, friend.

Anonymous said...

These young men live in a society where standing in front of a vandalized historical marker with guns is acceptable behavior. Just look at the racial overtones being used by the president to attack a congressman because he is rightfully being investigated.

Anonymous said...

It’s just a sign made of metal.
It’s just a flag made of cloth.
Each mean different things to different groups.
Yet therein lies the similarity.
Hmmmmm.... we have the same feelings about things when it gets down to it.

Anonymous said...

8:03, if you are going to use the word "statistically", please give the numbers and the source. Otherwise, it means nothing.

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Trollfest '07 was such a success that Jackson Jambalaya will once again host Trollfest '09. Catch this great event which will leave NE Jackson & Fondren in flames. Othor Cain and his band, The Black Power Structure headline the night while Sonjay Poontang returns for an encore performance. Former Frank Melton bodyguard Marcus Wright makes his premier appearance at Trollfest singing "I'm a Sweet Transvestite" from "The Rocky Horror Picture Show." Kamikaze will sing his new hit, “How I sold out to da Man.” Robbie Bell again performs: “Mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be Bells” and “Any friend of Ed Peters is a friend of mine”. After the show, Ms. Bell will autograph copies of her mug shot photos. In a salute to “Dancing with the Stars”, Ms. Bell and Hinds County District Attorney Robert Smith will dance the Wango Tango.

Wrestling returns, except this time it will be a Battle Royal with Othor Cain, Ben Allen, Kim Wade, Haley Fisackerly, Alan Lange, and “Big Cat” Donna Ladd all in the ring at the same time. The Battle Royal will be in a steel cage, no time limit, no referee, and the losers must leave town. Marshand Crisler will be the honorary referee (as it gives him a title without actually having to do anything).


Meet KIM Waaaaaade at the Entergy Tent. For five pesos, Kim will sell you a chance to win a deed to a crack house on Ridgeway Street stuffed in the Howard Industries pinata. Don't worry if the pinata is beaten to shreds, as Mr. Wade has Jose, Emmanuel, and Carlos, all illegal immigrants, available as replacements for the it. Upon leaving the Entergy tent, fig leaves will be available in case Entergy literally takes everything you have as part of its Trollfest ticket price adjustment charge.

Donna Ladd of The Jackson Free Press will give several classes on learning how to write. Smearing, writing without factchecking, and reporting only one side of a story will be covered. A donation to pay their taxes will be accepted and she will be signing copies of their former federal tax liens. Ms. Ladd will give a dramatic reading of her two award-winning essays (They received The Jackson Free Press "Best Of" awards.) "Why everything is always about me" and "Why I cover murders better than anyone else in Jackson".

In the spirit of helping those who are less fortunate, Trollfest '09 adopts a cause for which a portion of the proceeds and donations will be donated: Keeping Frank Melton in his home. The “Keep Frank Melton From Being Homeless” booth will sell chances for five dollars to pin the tail on the jackass. John Reeves has graciously volunteered to be the jackass for this honorable excursion into saving Frank's ass. What's an ass between two friends after all? If Mr. Reeves is unable to um, perform, Speaker Billy McCoy has also volunteered as when the word “jackass” was mentioned he immediately ran as fast as he could to sign up.


In order to help clean up the legal profession, Adam Kilgore of the Mississippi Bar will be giving away free, round-trip plane tickets to the North Pole where they keep their bar complaint forms (which are NOT available online). If you don't want to go to the North Pole, you can enjoy Brant Brantley's (of the Mississippi Commission on Judicial Performance) free guided tours of the quicksand field over by High Street where all complaints against judges disappear. If for some reason you are unable to control yourself, never fear; Judge Houston Patton will operate his jail where no lawyers are needed or allowed as you just sit there for minutes... hours.... months...years until he decides he is tired of you sitting in his jail. Do not think Judge Patton is a bad judge however as he plans to serve free Mad Dog 20/20 to all inmates.

Trollfest '09 is a pet-friendly event as well. Feel free to bring your dog with you and do not worry if your pet gets hungry, as employees of the Jackson Zoo will be on hand to provide some of their animals as food when it gets to be feeding time for your little loved one.

Relax at the Fox News Tent. Since there are only three blonde reporters in Jackson (being blonde is a requirement for working at Fox News), Megan and Kathryn from WAPT and Wendy from WLBT will be on loan to Fox. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both and a torn-up Obama yard sign will entitle you to free drinks served by Megan, Wendy, and Kathryn. Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required. Just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '09 is for EVERYONE!!!

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Jackson Jambalaya is the home of Trollfest '07. Catch this great event which promises to leave NE Jackson & Fondren in flames. Sonjay Poontang and his band headline the night with a special steel cage, no time limit "loser must leave town" bout between Alan Lange and "Big Cat"Donna Ladd following afterwards. Kamikaze will perform his new song F*** Bush, he's still a _____. Did I mention there was no referee? Dr. Heddy Matthias and Lori Gregory will face off in the undercard dueling with dangling participles and other um, devices. Robbie Bell will perform Her two latest songs: My Best Friends are in the Media and Mama's, Don't Let Your Babies Grow up to be George Bell. Sid Salter of The Clarion-Ledger will host "Pin the Tail on the Trial Lawyer", sponsored by State Farm.

There will be a hugging booth where in exchange for your young son, Frank Melton will give you a loooong hug. Trollfest will have a dunking booth where Muhammed the terrorist will curse you to Allah as you try to hit a target that will drop him into a vat of pig grease. However, in the true spirit of Separate But Equal, Don Imus and someone from NE Jackson will also sit in the dunking booth for an equal amount of time. Tom Head will give a reading for two hours on why he can't figure out who the hell he is. Cliff Cargill will give lessons with his .80 caliber desert eagle, using Frank Melton photos as targets. Tackleberry will be on hand for an autograph session. KIM Waaaaaade will be passing out free titles and deeds to crackhouses formerly owned by The Wood Street Players.

If you get tired come relax at the Fox News Tent. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both will entitle you to free drinks.Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required, just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '07 is for EVERYONE!!!

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