Monday, February 27, 2023

Energy Dept Concludes Lab Leak Likely

More U.S. intelligence concludes the Covid-19  pandemic originated in a lab.  The Wall Street Journal reported: 

The U.S. Energy Department has concluded that the Covid pandemic most likely arose from a laboratory leak, according to a classified intelligence report recently provided to the White House and key members of Congress.

The shift by the Energy Department, which previously was undecided on how the virus emerged, is noted in an update to a 2021 document by Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines’s office.

The new report highlights how different parts of the intelligence community have arrived at disparate judgments about the pandemic’s origin. The Energy Department now joins the Federal Bureau of Investigation in saying the virus likely spread via a mishap at a Chinese laboratory. Four other agencies, along with a national intelligence panel, still judge that it was likely the result of a natural transmission, and two are undecided.

The Energy Department’s conclusion is the result of new intelligence and is significant because the agency has considerable scientific expertise and oversees a network of U.S. national laboratories, some of which conduct advanced biological research.....

Yet no confirmed animal source for Covid-19 has been identified. The lack of an animal source, and the fact that Wuhan is the center of China’s extensive coronavirus research, has led some scientists and U.S. officials to argue that a lab leak is the best explanation for the pandemic’s beginning.

U.S. State Department cables written in 2018 and internal Chinese documents show that there were persistent concerns about China’s biosafety procedures, which have been cited by proponents of the lab-leak hypothesis. Article.

However, the agency said it had "low confidence" in its assessment while the FBI stated it had "moderate confidence" in its own assessment. 

Kingfish note: The truth continues to emerge after the so-called experts and big tech tried to shut down any and all discussion of the origins of the Wuhan virus.  Of course, know we know that Dr. Fauci and his cronies were trying to cover up their roles in gain-of-function research. 


Anonymous said...

But...but...China said it wasn't them. I can't believe the CCP would lie like that.

Anonymous said...

The MSM, the Joe Xiden administration and Herr Dr. Fauci have been covering for the Chicoms for months. Why the narrative change now?

Anonymous said...

Everyone already knew that. After all our president told us about it years ago. Just like a lot of other things, he was right.

Anonymous said...

Weird headline for a report that states "low confidence"

I'm not putting my eggs in that basket

Anonymous said...

They are releasing this now so they have a reason to attack China over their helping Russia, Russia Russia, WWIII here we come. Put your heads, between your knees and Kiss your @$$ goodbye.

Anonymous said...

"Look a squirrel" Thank you Capt Obvious

Anonymous said...

Energy Department????? What about the Department of the Interior? What do they think? Department of Labor??? Inquiring minds want to know???

Anonymous said...

Must protect military-based virology research at all costs.

Anonymous said...

Jake Sullivan, security advisor to demented Biden, weaseled on Energy Dept concession, says source of virus still unknown. Sullivan also a stooge of Fauci, who, with the Chicoms, helped develop the virus to get boodle from pharma for mass sales of forced shots, so Sullivan likely feeding off same gravy train.

Anonymous said...

@ 10:37 AM - Yeah, I was wondering what it has to do with energy, too.

But, what is most telling is that they have NEVER found ground zero -- the animal, or string of animals, that brought the virus naturally into the human mainstream. That combined with its contagiousness right off the bat, support the lab theory.

Bill Dees said...

@10:25 AM Ditto

golferinmississippi said...

I'm not one to don a Reynolds Wrap fedora, but these Chi-Com balloons floating over seem even more suspicious. AND, if you want extra suspicious, this administration knowing that the virus came from a Chinese Lab, wouldn't want to risk downing a balloon over US soil. Especially a balloon that might have a weaponized virus on board.

Anonymous said...

Trump knew-

Kingsized said...

@11:02. "right off the bat." I see what you did there...

Anonymous said...

Why does it matter? I know you get clicks and $ to stir up an issue but what does a low confidence finding mean?

The only thing it will do is get you Clicks.

Which is good for you I guess

Anonymous said...

If they were honest, I wager most intel is low confidence. They just chose to pin the moniker proudly on this one since it benefits them. Regardless, I can read the words and use my basic intelligence to apply the term to the data.

Why does the sharing of this information bother you?

Anonymous said...

it is really sad when an event that can be explained using a reasonable level of common sense , passes as "news".

Anonymous said...

Trump told us that and was brutally attacked for spreading “misinformation”.

As usual, he ended up being right. Sadly many FB and Twitter posters who said this were put in Twitter or FB jail.

Anonymous said...

OK, put your head back in the sand and continue to purchase products made or influenced by China. The US has successfully killed our industry. Future generations will unfortunately pay the price.

Anonymous said...

If you go a bit deeper you'll find that it was no accident.

Pres. Trump was muscling China into dealing fairly on trade and the democrats were foiled in every farcical attempt to run him out of office. And they were headed toward obliteration in 2020.

Was a hail-Mary that resulted in wholesale election fraud by illegitimate mail-in ballots and a replacement China owns.

Conspiracy? Pretty easy math.

Anonymous said...

I saw on Facebook that the Chinese spy balloon was filled with Covid virus and that's why they waited for it to clear the US before shooting it down.

Anonymous said...

1:16 Capitalists killed our industry by outsourcing to China. They sold us out and got rich while enriching China. Biden's CHIP act is a huge weapon against China but you dumb-dumbs can't see past your own nose.

Our industries and consumption built China. An enemy of our own design. Guess we will need to drop another trillion into the budget. *wink*

Anonymous said...

In other news, Water is wet.

If all of what people call "conspiracy theories" come to be true, what does that make it?

Anonymous said...


It’s called the “rug-pull” my man

This was literally wargamed in the SPARS exercise. The pivot to “virus was china, vaccine dangerous” was planned in 2017 by John’s Hopkins, Gates Foundation, CDC, Miliken Institute. They also said there will be a billionaire scapegoat (Gates) and a government health institute scapegoat (Fauci) and then people will just forget

Not a conspiracy theory, a tabletop exercise

We told y’all

Anonymous said...

A “low confidence level”, generally indicates that the information used in the analysis is scant, questionable, fragmented, or that solid analytical conclusions cannot be inferred from the information, or that the IC has significant concerns or problems with the information sources.

Anonymous said...

@4:31pm - Damn, I wish I was as smart as folks like you that can put the most ridiculous conspiracy theories together like that and actually believe them.

I have a Martian probe up my ass too.

Anonymous said...

Just to point out a few things...

Lawrence Livermore National Lab is connected to the Dept. of Energy and part of the national security infrastructure. Ignoring the "low confidence" aspect for the purposes of discussion, even if the source of the initial infections originated from a lab leak, that is not the same thing as the virus "originating in a lab" nor the pandemic being the direct and inescapable result of a lab leak. There are essentially two theories: a lab "leak" in the form of zoonosis occurring in the lab with the "leak" being one or more people infected at the lab then transmitting it to others outside the lab, or "natural" zoonosis outside of the lab. Essentially no one with any real education, training, and experience in virology thinks SARS-CoV-2 was a "weaponized" virus or intentionally released by the CCP. From the standpoint of the reaction and results after zoonosis, the precise "ground zero" - zoonotic spillover in a lab or a market - doesn't really matter. And it is possible that both occurred over a short period of time.

That said, there is no serious debate that the Chinese government, i.e., the CCP, handled this very badly from the beginning. The CCP's poor handling of the initial infections, leak or natural, let this thing get much further along than if they had been more open and gotten the worldwide scientific and medical communities involved immediately. But the reactions of other governments and especially the people around the world weren't controlled by the CCP. Taking medical and prevention advice from idiots on social media killed a lot of people in the US, and the CCP can't be blamed for that.

Podiatrist Opines On Making Sausage said...

The Energy Department, a wholly useless building full of bureaucrats, investigating the Wuhan Flu origin is sort of like our State Auditor releasing his opinions on the job market and 'brain drain'.

'Stay in your lane' is becoming more uncommon, daily.

Anonymous said...

"Taking medical and prevention advice from idiots on social media killed a lot of people in the US"

Prove it.

Anonymous said...

Trump didn't know, nor does anyone know for certain how exactly this happen.
What we know, thanks to the scientific research most of you love to hate, is that CV is less likely to spread from animal to human.
What everyone agreed on was that China behaved badly and irresponsibly.
But, you folks STILL don't get that "novel" means "new and unknown". Until the research began to give us "knowns", we couldn't even treat it.
So, thanks to y'all willing to be "herd" animals, it's mutated.
And, thanks to all of you, we can't even benefit or react to the latest research because politicians have learned you don't want to know.
But, our immunity is not lasting as long. Our organs are still being damaged, though not fatally. Of course, y'all are all making the concerns about permanent brain damage a lot scarier.

Anonymous said...

To "Prove It":
1,125,409 Americans died from Covid.
A double blind study proved your "alternative" did not even reduced symptoms or duration in vaccinated humans.
Neither Trump nor Biden ( both old) were treated with worm or malaria treatment though I seem to remember Trump claiming he was using the malaria treatment as a " preventive" until it didn't work.
Repeated research confirms that vaccination reduces hospitalization and death from Covid.
Nor did the use of either treatment stem the rate of cases in 2020. Vaccinations clearly did.
So, it's logical to conclude that many of those who did died weren't vaccinated or tried one of the bogus treatments and were hospitalized too late if not just total denial and assumed an "extra bad cold" and died at home.
Then there's been all the media testimony from the relatives of those who died who tried " alternatives", but no money to fund the research to get an exact number.
You couldn't connect dots on those restaurant placemats for kids, could you?

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