Thursday, July 5, 2012

Mississippi Dems push for more Medicaid

The Mississippi Democratic Trust issued this press release:

Mississippi faces opportunity to improve healthcare model
July 5, 2012

Jackson, MS- Last year in Mississippi, uncompensated care, those costs incurred in treating uninsured patients, totaled $525.5 million. Of that amount, $315 million was not covered by any federal reimbursement program and was, instead, passed on to Mississippi taxpayers.

House Democratic Caucus Leader Bobby Moak (D – Bogue Chitto) said, “Mississippi hospitals and taxpayers make up for uncompensated care through higher taxes and higher costs for healthcare.”

Under the Affordable Care Act, deemed constitutional by the United States Supreme Court last week, many states will take advantage of Medicaid options that drastically reduce the amount lost each year to uncompensated care. According to estimates provided by the Kaiser Family Foundation, 330,000 Mississippians will be newly eligible for Medicaid under the plan.

“If those thousands of Mississippians who are currently using our emergency rooms for ‘doctors visits’ are able to access health insurance, it will drive down the amount Mississippi spends on uncompensated care,” said Moak.

Under the plan, Mississippi would receive $1.6137 billion per year for three years from the federal government to cover the cost of new healthcare recipients.

Brandon Jones, Executive Director of the Mississippi Democratic Trust, said, “This is a total of $4.8411 billion dollars in new healthcare funding that will not require tax increases at the local level or result in higher hospital bills for insured Mississippians.”

In the fourth year of the program, Mississippi would receive $6.29343 billion and would only be required to provide $161.37 million match.

Moak said, “Mississippi would pay no matching costs for three years and the matching costs in the fourth year would only represent a fraction of what we already pay annually for uncompensated care.”

Jones added, “Refusing healthcare funding under these circumstances would be a classic example of cutting off our nose to spite our face.”


1. To learn more about the Kaiser Family Foundation and to read the Foundation’s reports on the impact of the ACA on state Medicaid programs, visit
2. Using the latest U. S. data, a Mississippi family of four with an income of $30,656.50 would be eligible for the program. Each additional person in the household would add $3,960 to that base amount.
3. Each year, Mississippi spends approximately $4,890 in healthcare costs per Medicaid recipient.

Brandon Jones, Executive Director
Mississippi Democratic Trust


Bill Dees said...

I'll have to agree with Bobby Moak on this one. The people of Mississippi need this.

Anonymous said...


Who pays for the increase?

Anonymous said...

"Of that amount, $315 million was not covered by any federal reimbursement program and was, instead, passed on to Mississippi taxpayers."

So, instead, for three years we should run up a tab and pass it on to ALL US taxpayers (not just Mississippi taxpayers) so they can pay back to the Chinese (or whomever) the amount we need to borrow to pay this back.

Anonymous said...

The Federal portion of this is to be funded by a tax on investment earnings and certain other income. The shady part of it is the the big Federal money is only guaranteed for the first few years. So, if the Federal funding gets cut, we'll be stuck with thousands more on the Medicaid rolls and either have to cut them off or go broke trying to pick up whatever Uncle decides to hold back. In addition, if and when Obamacare gets repealed you'd still have the same situation to deal with. It's a bad deal we can't afford. There has to be a better way and this one surely isn't it!!

Anonymous said...

It's so sad they can't see the long term economic implications of their short-sight policies. It's a bad law on so many levels, but states refusing to expand their Medicaid programs is the one sure way to destroy the implementation of this thing. Without Medicaid, the creation of exchanges cannot readily occur.

Anonymous said...

When people like Bill tell me the state should increase the availability of any type entitlement I also want him to tell me where the money comes from. The working people can only pay so much and feel it is worth still working and not getting in the wagon instead of pulling it.

Kingfish said...

I just want to know where the $160 million is going to come from when we never can seem to properly fund Medicaid every year as it is.

Ironghost said...

No, the government just doesn't "Give out" money.

Anonymous said...

A new federal program to save money from another program?


Bill Dees said...

@Anon 2:39 Well the money would come from those of us who can afford to pay. State income taxes are too low.

Anonymous said...

I don't know Bill well enough to tell whether he's being sarcastic or borrowing a line from O'Bama. Taxes are not too low, spending is too high!!!

Anonymous said...

So the dems and black caucaus want more free stuff for everybody. Hell no. Medicaid is for those elderly and children who are unable to work and are poor and for disabled. Sitting on the porch getting a fat ass cause you lazy and getting sugar diabetes, bp and heart problems don't qualify as disabled. Get off your ass, get a job, lose weight and exercise. Your other option is to live a sick life and die a slow painful death. Either way, we ain't payin for your ass to do nothin.

Anonymous said...

Amen 6:03.

Anonymous said...

Remember that a penny saved is a government mistake

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

What 6:03 said!!!!

Anonymous said...

As a private doctor, I would go broke seeing only medicaid. A level 3 established patient visit with an average of 2-3 problems that need to be investigated that takes about 15 mins of time pays around 20 dollars. Do the math. If I am open 8 hours and see 4 medicaid patients an hour, I will make 640 dollars a day. I wouldn't be able to afford the rent, utilities, and staff, yet alone pay myself any salary. And that is if I get paid at all. So the next time you bitch about why so few doctors see medicaid, think about the simple economics of it.

bill said...

Doctor, if the liberals get their way you won't have to worry about rent, utilities or staff, and you'll be getting a salary from the government. French doctors make a cool $50,000 a year and their system is just peachy, right? What a mess this is going to be...

Anonymous said...

Of course they want more Medicaid. Nothing pisses me off more than some huge fat ass, I mean FAT ASS, (almost always AA) driving around Sam's or the grocery store in one of the electric carts. I mean for God's sake WALK around. These are the Obamacare bunnies that will break the bank.

I have NEVER seen so many FAT people in my life. Gross.

MEOPLE said...

I still am appalled at the entitlement of government to think that obamacare is good for the PEOPLE but not good enough for upper level government employees (senators, congressmen, elected/appointed judicial employees, etc). That is insane, we elect these ass holes to work for us not screw us. Power to the individuals.

Anonymous said...

let me say first , i am a conservative who has a huge belief in the constitution. i hate obama, his cronies and everything they do. doctors go to school many years, pay expensive overhead cost for their practices and work hard. drug companies have done expensive research. insurance companies pay expensive claims daily. hospitals continue to provide facilities and equipment for testing and surgeries. however they all make way too damn much money and as a result the publics frustration with the system has been used to promote obamacare-even though the people don't want it. obamacare is not the answer. greed is not either..

bill said...

Someone once asked Andrew Carnegie, who was the richest man in the world at the time, to define how much money was enough. His reply? I don't know - I don't have enough yet.

10:40, it's not your place or anyone else's to decide who's making "way too damn much money" in health care or road construction or playing baseball or selling used cars. Yes, the system needs an overhaul, but salary control is a huge mistake. Where do you stop? Doctors, nurses, first line delivery people? Equipment manufacturers? I'm sure GE's executive team takes home more than a country doctor, or maybe even a heart surgeon. Hospital construction companies? Pharmaceutical companies? Greed didn't get us here and government interference designed to keep profits down won't solve it.

Anonymous said...

Hear, hear. I like ol' Bill. As an AA myself (who does not "ride around the Sam's parking lot on my fat a**"), I appreciate that he and some others can say something smart and sensibly conservative without insulting anyone or making rash geralizations about a whole race. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

Excuse me, forgot to clarify: the Bill @ 1:29, that is. Smart, civil individual.

Anonymous said...

Sorry, this is Anon 1:47. That is *generalizations. Would hate to reflect poorly on my people in this forum.

Anonymous said...

Well, even after the "free money" runs out, Washington is offering to match 90cents on the dollar. I believe the governor said that it would increase the medicaid roles from 25% to 30% of the population. That's a lot of healthcare providers and construction workers paying income and sales tax.

I didn't like Obamacare, and would have preferred flat out tax credits for individuals, but the gop would be nuts (and they probably are) to not find a way to come up with the money for this.

Bill Dees said...

Froom a Robert Wood Johnson Foundation study in 2009:

"Among 19 countries included in a
recent study of amenable
mortality, the United States had
the highest rate of deaths from
conditions that could have been
prevented or treated successfully."

That means that France, (and 17 other countries) had lower mortality rates from preventable or treatable causes. Translation: Helath care is better in many other places, France included, than it is in the United States.

Anonymous said...

1861 .

Shadowfax said...

Wasn't it Bill Clinton who promised a hundred thousand new policemen on the streets? Hell, who doesn't want more cops? He was prepared to fund their pay for one year. Then what?

Wasn't it Obama who tried to twist the states' arms into agreeing to a one or two year extension and increase in Unemployment Insurance and Haley and a few others thought, "What the hell? Who pays for it after that? It's required to be permanent."

It's becoming more and more simple to bump costs down to the states. People with these kinds of minds actually believe if they require states to pick up costs, eventually things will level out, everybody will be a lighter shade of brown, every income will be marginal, every skill will be mediocre and all citizens will be 'melted down'.

America will become 50 dry turnips and all of our hands will be extended upward to D.C. where there will only be meager handouts. How soon will we become a national remake of 'Night of The Living Dead'?

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