Friday, December 14, 2012

Connecticut shooting thread.

Consider this post to be a thread about the shooting at the elementary school in Connecticut. Our prayers go out to the families there. There is simply nothing to say at a time like this. Feel free to vent, grieve, or post updates here. KF.

18 comments:

Frugal Gal said...

There are no suitable words. The only appropriate response at this point is grief and prayer.

Anonymous said...

My heart hurts.....hurts.....hurts.

Anonymous said...

www.ctnow.com is the local tv news station.

This just takes my breath way.

May God be with all of the families touched by this, all of the teachers who were there trying to protect those children, and all the responders who came into a scene that nobody would ever want to see.

EAB said...

Lord, make me an instrument of your peace.
Where there is hatred, let me sow love.
Where there is injury, pardon.
Where there is doubt, faith.
Where there is despair, hope.
Where there is darkness, light.
Where there is sadness, joy.
O Divine Master, grant that I may not so much seek to be consoled, as to console;
to be understood, as to understand;
to be loved, as to love.
For it is in giving that we receive.
It is in pardoning that we are pardoned,
and it is in dying that we are born to eternal life.

meople said...

I'm tired of these bastards killing themselves after doing something like this. Since this generation has no value put on life... There are no consequences for their actions... And when you dress in tactical gear it is not only premeditated but it proves sanity... Tears were brought to my eyes when I read it the second time.

Anonymous said...

These types of events are only going to get worse.

We have a whole generation of people who have been raised on TV, video games, don't want to work, piss and moan about what they don't have and contribute nothing to society.

Thanks LBJ. You and the Kennedy's created this shit. I just wish you were here to answer for it.

Anonymous said...

10:31,

John Rosamond would posit that it was the replacing of self respect with self esteem in the '60-70's that started our me-focused society.

Either way, the results are the same. The family unit is destroyed and the ensuing chaos reigns.

Anonymous said...

As long as the courts interpret that a person has to actually hurt themselves or someone else to be forced into treatment for mental illness and/or substance abuse, this will continue to happen.

When families and specific authorities like police officers had the power to force an evaluation, such tragedies were rare, our streets weren't filled with the mentally ill and addicted homeless, and our seniors with dementia weren't victimized so easily by con men.

Individual rights can be protected without placing the rest of society in danger.

A family could call a social services hotline much like is done with child abuse , report an at risk adult, have the social worker do an initial investigation and get the person into a state hospital for evaluation and then treatment , including a 21 day detox. The police could be called during a psychotic event and be empowered to take the person in for evaluation.

That's how we use to do it. There were some abuses of the system but we could have added more safeguards of the individuals legal rights rather than turn the violently insane loose on society as we did in the mid 70s.






Anonymous said...

Dec.15, 9:06am - My thoughts exactly.
Trying to prove that someone (of legal age) is a 'danger to themselves or others' in order for them to receive intervention in a 24/7 facility can usually not be proved until AFTER the harm has been done. The hands of mental health and community authorities are pretty much tied by these laws that were changed in the 70's.

That being said, my thoughts and prayers have been and will continue to be with Newtown, CT community. Such a horrific tragedy!

meople said...

I'm disturbed that you guys assume every gunman who shoots up strangers is considered mentally insane. These problems are becoming to be multiple times a week are you ready to say 75% of our society is insane? 100%? These are the times we live in and gosh dammit I wish that just once we wouldn't glorify this crap and we need to take the movie theatre shooter to the firing squad and "zipper" his ass immediately. This "me" society and insane crap is what allows these assholes to get off the needle. I say he was sane enough to premeditate and know to take his own life so he would not suffer real consequences in society... Matter of fact I see no insanity in these cases just mis-perceptions of reality.

Anonymous said...

It's 24+ hours since this nightmare and I am still paralyzed with grief and despair. Once in my life I heard the most gut-wrenching cry of a mother upon hearing that her adult child had died. I cannot imagine that cry times twenty for those sweet babies who probably adored school and were eagerly awaiting the holidays. What do we say? What do we do? And...why; why; why?

Anonymous said...

Anti-gun liberals will scream (again) for gun control. They don't seem to understand that problem is our free-for-all society where NOTHING is taboo. I say that, instead of GUN control, we need start controlling those who continue to stomp on traditional family values at every opportunity. Ultral liberal idiots and their "progressive" ideas have absolutely destroyed our society - and our children in the process. There is only one way to reverse this mess. We must DEMAND that prime time TV be censored to control the type and amount of violence that can be broadcast on public airwaves. If the liberals can't live without their daily dose of blood and guts, let them get it through cable TV. Same things for public profanity. It should be absolutely prohibited on public airwaves. Further, every community should have ordinances against public profanity and those ordinances should be ENFORCED. Retail store & restaurants should remove any person who uses profanity on their premises. And ditto for indecent exposure. It is not necessary for anybody to show their underwear, mid-drift or buttocks in public. These things do NOT represent "progress" no matter WHO says they do.

Anonymous said...

I want our schools on lock-down. I want armed guards. our banks have armed guards, but our children (our most priceless treasures) are left unprotected? I trust no one.

meople said...

6:25 wants BIG GOVERNMENT yeah that will solve it. Check out Oklahoma another and the newest sovereign state... They don't let the fed tell them what they can and can't do... Granted (no pun intended) Mississippi relies heavily on federal grants. So what do you do?

Anonymous said...

Ours is such a backward society; liberals living off funding from the government fight to the death for causes such as gun control and government provided birth control and they NEVER EVER give up. Generally, most conservatives work for a living and don't have the time it takes to put towards fighting because we are busy raising our FAMILIES. Yes, this is a generalization; however, the point is conservatives need to start fighting for christian rights (not just religious freedom, gun control, fairness in the media, regaining the courts, regaining the education system and beating back this demon of liberal progressiveism to the depths of hell from where it came. Yes - it is diabolical. This will offend you ACLU types, but I don't care.

bill said...

We are not going to stop people from being mentally ill, and while we say today that treatment should be more accessible the sad truth is that tomorrow we'll be complaining about the increased taxes that such programs will need. Neither are we going to be able to stop rapid fire weapons from finding their way into the hands of people who would use them for evil. The best solution is to arm, train and prepare our potential victims so they can stop the killers in their tracks. Not every teacher has to be armed and some may fail when put to the test, but I'll bet there are 27 families who wish the principal had rushed into that classroom with a pistol. Bill Billingsley

WYATT EARP said...

BAN ASSAULT WEAPONS. ONLY A MACHO IDIOT WOULD OWN ONE. RIGHT RIGHT TARGET SHOOTING....PLINKING....BAN THE MOTHER FUCKERS....NOW. WHAT OTHER COUNTRY ALLOWS THEM. BAN THEM. NOW. THE BROTHERS WOULD BE ARRESTED RIGHT AND LEFT, AND THE SKINHEADS AS WELL.

Anonymous said...

hey wyatt, drop the all caps.. we ain't deaf.



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