Friday, May 22, 2009

Am I nuts?

Am thinking of tackling this Two Lakes project and trying to figure the whole thing out. I might get a case of that wine below if I do.

44 comments:

Anonymous said...

Lose-lose-lose until the plans solidify further. McGowan jiggers the plan to combat objections with regularity.

Anonymous said...

I like how the compnany that has made millions of dollars on "feasability studies" (and on which the JFP relies) hasn't produced one - not one - document that related to the "studies" they conducted. They have literally run around town conducting study after study and haven't produced a single document.

Anonymous said...

They have quite a bit of literature on their website:
http://www.twolakesms.com/

Granted, you will only find what McGowan wants you to find there, but at least it's one side of the story.

I'd be very interested to see what you come up with KF. There's lots of talk about what it could do for the tri-county area, but "What should it do?" is the question. I'm all for economic development that also provides adequate flood control, but it needs to perform well in both sectors.

Anonymous said...

There's big money in "them dang" studies......bring on the Maple Syrup guys again......

Anonymous said...

I wonder what will happen once Harvey gets in office... can anyone say feasibility study #392?

Anonymous said...

Perhaps #392 will bear fruit....did any of the first 391 do so?

Anonymous said...

It would be interesting to look at the number of studies and also which ones were used to implement decisions that made it worth while. What would be your guess at the efficiency ratio?

I would guess 20%, but that's just a shot in the dark.

Kingfish said...

If I can figure out this bond stuff I can figure this out.

Anonymous said...

Please ask the engineering firm that has the contract with the levee board to conduct "feasibility studies" where the documented studies are. where are the ducuments. where are the documents. where are the documents.

Anonymous said...

Jackson had major floods in 1921 and 1979 (not sure if there were any other major ones), so do you think there will be another one in the next 30 years?

Anonymous said...

Sure you can, King! Would enjoy your perspective on this. Wondering myself the engineering on this versus Shoccoe Dam and even the proposed Town Creek project like San Antonio.

Anonymous said...

Moving target, time sink, little reward.

Anonymous said...

twin lakes project would be a boon to the city of Jackson, enhancing property values. Even downtown Jackson would probably be re-viatalized and avoid its
deathly demise. Madison-Ridgeland will continue to suck life away from any hope that the City of Jackson has/

QB said...

Someone please give me one valid reason we should not do this? It has the potential to transform the city.

Anonymous said...

Go find a good independent hydro engineer KF to donate the hundreds of hours of time it will take to evaluate the various alternatives because that is what it is going to take to "figure this out". Otherwise you'll be little different than another Todd Stauffer with an opinion.

Anonymous said...

Maybe they could rebuild The Dock on those there lakes.

Anonymous said...

lake front property = more white folks = fewer black council peoples = bad idea

Anonymous said...

10:55 is a fucking genius. That is what it is all about. Council seats that pay shit on the dollar.

Thanks retard.

A. Boyd Campbell, II said...

Actually they could rebuild the dock exactly where it was. That's a project that'll never get back off the ground.

Anonymous said...

12:31, you are so right. It's never, ever about race in Jackson. I am such a retard. Excuse me while I wipe the drool from my chin.

Lakelover said...

Lower Lake 1 lake compromise=79%effective. The 21% that doesn't work is town creek in downtown Jackson.

Also, the levees "holding in the water" in a flood event are 6 FEET HIGHER THAN LAKELAND DRIVE, measing SANDBAGS would be neccessary during a huge flood event.

SANDBAGS.

Who in hell will pay cash to develop land inside this large bass pond? Won't the "new levees " be lovely.

Scrivener said...

Yes.


But as a fellow nut, I appreciate insanity.

Anonymous said...

Lower Lake 1 lake compromise=79%effective. The 21% that doesn't work is town creek in downtown Jackson.

Let the monied elite downtown buy flood insurance. Screw them not the ever shrinking base of residents and small businesses.

Anonymous said...

KF, if you could cut the wheat from the shaft on this, we'd all be grateful. " Studies" are a politician's way of overcoming ridiculous objections without having to take a hit BUT they are also a way to block the powerful from doing something that benefits only their own pocket. And, if you look at Magnolia Venture and the Beef Plant studies, they can be a way to sell snake oil.
As it stands, I can't form an intelligent opinion on this project.
Somebody needs to tackle it before us taxpayers get either snookered or deprived of a benefit.

Anonymous said...

Wheat from the shaft? Is that a purposeful play on words or a public school education?

A. Boyd Campbell, II said...

Cut the Wheat from the Shaft: a 1973 film starring Richard Roundtree. Tired of the pimp and pusher laiden hard streets, our hero, Shaft, decides to move to Nebraska farm, only to come face-to-face with the Klu Klux Klan! Guest starring Tamara Dobson as Cleopatra Jones, the hippest farm wife in the county.

Anonymous said...

"Let the monied elite downtown buy flood insurance. Screw them not the ever shrinking base of residents and small businesses."

This angry white man is a HOOT. I mean a HOOT.

What a view of life! ROTFLMFAO!!!

Anonymous said...

Dude you're going to have another 'near stroke' sanding that much rope.

Lakelover said...

You gotta love this guy!!!

Also, the One Lake compromise does NOTHING for the Town Creek situation. Think if the creek was like Oklahoma City....or Austin. We would have incredible financial opprtunities within the inner city. Could be so cool and transforming.

Anonymous said...

9:38 may have the dumbest phucking idea of all time.

Anonymous said...

Why have all the white supremacists left Y'allPolitics and now have landed here?

Anonymous said...

He is an angry, silly mission of one....not all. An angry, small white man. He is actually quite funny in his oratories, and so predictable.

Enjoy him, as he is great for laughs.

Kingfish said...

What is the Town Creek Situation?

Anonymous said...

With 2 Lakes, phase 2 will have it look like Oklahoma City. Useful waterfront throughout the city. with the 1 lake compromise, it will completely flood downtown, as tis area is the 21% "ineffective" area of this compromise.

[The devil is in the details]

A. Boyd Campbell, II said...

The town creek flooding situation or the town creek tunnel situation or the town creek saloon situation?

Anonymous said...

LOVE the JFP opposition to TWO lakes. Bite the BAILOUT hand.

Lakelover said...

The "situation" is that this could/should be a beautiful water feature like you see in cities all over the country, but instead is an eyesore filled with horrible water, trash and looks and smells like shi$. All b/c of provincial thinkers not seeing what other cities have done, and that we can as well. Walking away from this genuine flood control project, with the water features it can present is so shorsighted.

Anonymous said...

Why aren't you posting all that on the JFP? You are preaching to the choir here.

Anonymous said...

@3:54

Agreed

Anonymous said...

You are asking questions that could be answered through research.

Anonymous said...

These questions have long been answered, but the anti's will NOT recognize them. This is a no brainer. Now, let's go hug some trees while our lake dries up.

Anonymous said...

yeah, that sugar ditch in the downtowm area could be transformed intro San Antonio style water feature , but no .....

no telling how many species of slugs, water turds and tadpoles would be wiped out if they develope the plan.

Anonymous said...

How's the research going KF?

Anonymous said...

Follow the MONEY. Right to Waggener Engineering and Carl Ray Furr. Millions in studies and engineering, and NOTHING to show for ir. Keep the controversy alive, and line the "consultants" [and their cronies] pockets.

Not saying it is illegal, but FOLLOW THE MONEY.



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