Thursday, December 6, 2007

Food Fight!!!

This food fight taking place on The Jackson Free Press forums. In case this is zapped, here is the whole thing. What started this was Othor Cain, local radio talk show host and community activist, was on WLEZ-FM with Ben Allen and Kamikaze to discuss development downtown. It was a spirited discussion and Mr. Cain asked some tough questions. Here ya go:
I talked to Ted Duckworth today. He said he did not get a grant to put low-income housing in the Electric Building as Othor stated on the show. More soon on what actually happened.I know that Othor can raise good questions, Kaze. But he needs to act more like a journalist and factcheck himself before he goes on there and spreads rumors as he is on the attack. That helps nothing. Posted by: ladd on Dec 06, 07 2:44 pm.....

That's not a problem. The more opportunities we get to talk about this oonly helps. Ill try to get some other committee members to come on. And Othor may have turned out to be off-base with the Duckworth issue(although I still never take those guys at face value). I like his passion. And it speaks to how frustrated the average person is in that area as it pertains to Farish. It's the apathy of good men as I keep saying. African-americans here need to be more abreast of whats happening under their noses as opposed to getting mad AFTER something happens. Now is the time to get involved while we're applying pressure so that EVERYONE has opportunity downtown not just a chosen few. And you really should come on tomorrow night. It can only make it better. Ill referee LOL Posted by: Kamikaze on Dec 06, 07 3:11 pm....

Kaze, I do think it is really useful to air everything on these issues, including myths that may turn out to be false. I do think that we journalists should take the time to factcheck things that are easily factcheckable before spreading rumors. And I think it's vital for everyone to listen to each other and learn, and then work together for solutions. I'm so over finger-pointing. I want to see positive action and dialogue, along with honesty, on these issues. That's never really happened in Jackson across racial lines, and I think it can grow out of this. But let's keep challenging each other to be *accurate*.Also, let's remember to honor our journalistic training and allow everyone to respond to allegations, including Performa. We might even learn something from them. You never know. "African-americans here need to be more abreast of whats happening under their noses as opposed to getting mad AFTER something happens. Now is the time to get involved while we're applying pressure so that EVERYONE has opportunity downtown not just a chosen few. " (Kaze) Totally agree. And we really have to get away from a city where the Northside Sun crowd believes one thing, and the Jackson Advocate crowd believes another and never shall the twains meet. (And where some people encourage that division to, well, keep people divided).The JFP will do everything we can to help get accurate information out there, encourage smart development and challenge efforts to cut people out of the process. And we'll continue to factcheck and challenge myths so that people aren't just walking around spreading rumors, making the situation worse. Posted by: ladd on Dec 06, 07 4:07 pm

Donna is not allowed to join us at WMPR...I'm done with her insults...Donna did you fact check or just take Ted at his word.Who do you really think you are? You think because Donna says it ..then its gospel..give me a break.....You do not sppeak for African AMericans in this city....and it does become personal with your insults....you do not have all the answers......I'm done!!!! Posted by: blkokc on Dec 06, 07 6:23 pm

you can't tell me how to act..just as I can't you...who do you think you are???/I want no part of your show...this is not a publicity stomp for me..this is about real information affecting real people in this city.Ted said and that's the gospel...factcheck yourself.
Posted by: blkokc on Dec 06, 07 6:25 pm

Don't worry, Othor, I have other plans. ;-) And I didn't "insult" you; I thought you didn't take being criticized personally.Actually, I'm waiting for you to provide me materials to factcheck your accusation, being that you made it; I asked you for the date already. I've also asked Ben and Ted to provide more details about what actually happened. They're assembling stuff for me; I'd love to see your backup materials as well. Are you sure you didn't make a mistake on the facts? It happens.
And it's not an "insult" if someone asks you to back up your accusations of other people. I know you know that.I'm not trying to "speak for African Americans," Othor. I'm trying to speak on behalf of Jackson, and to facilitate a dialogue among diverse people with different ideas. Part of that is exploding myths and checking out statements that people make about other people. Posted by: ladd on Dec 06, 07 6:28 pm

I'm not telling you how to act. I'm asking you to back up your statements. I know you a lot better than I do Ted. I'm not playing favorites with him. If he said publicly that you took a million dollars to do something that you haven't done, I'd challenge him to back it up as well.
Posted by: ladd on Dec 06, 07 6:29 pm

you will not take over this conversation about what's happening in this city.....I like the way you just invited yourself in....you are not the begin all and end all with what's happening in this city..... Posted by: blkokc on Dec 06, 07 6:40 pm

you are not the faciltator in these discussions...you are not GOD!!!!!There is a difference between being critical and making outlandish statements as you've done here.....but enough already..you have your views and I have mine.....you are a reporter..you can search public records just as I can...get busy, if you really want to uncover something......
Posted by: blkokc on Dec 06, 07 6:45 pm


you automatically assumed what I said was just a rumor after you talked with Ted...read your previous post. You can't have it both ways..... Posted by: blkokc on Dec 06, 07 6:47 pm
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9 comments:

Anonymous said...

Gonna be mighty interesting to see where Kaze lands once them rocks get thrown because there won't be room for him to ride the fence.

Kingfish said...

give him credit. He did try to play the great healer.

Anonymous said...

poor ole Ortho, he's let his hatred of white folks drive him insane. He can't even make sense now. He got his clock cleaned by Miss Ladd.

Junebug

Tom Head said...

Othor Cain doesn't hate white folks--but he doesn't like being patronized and talked down to, and I don't really blame him.

He may very well be wrong about the million dollar thing, but Donna essentially made it impossible for him to admit it in any way that would save face. If that's how one gets "his clock cleaned," then I suppose that's only the latest of many reasons why I'm glad I'm not a regular on the JFP forums anymore.

Anonymous said...

On The Donna Ladd Show you only receive the warm wishes and parting gifts if you strictly follow the script.

Kingfish said...

she asked him to back up one of his assertions. standard debate procedure. Never saw a good respone.

Tom Head said...

He does need to answer the evidence claim before his argument about the million dollar thing sounds persuasive, but I don't think he's under any obligation to do so in that thread given the way it has degenerated. He'd be better off doing that on his radio show, IMHO, or in a guest op-ed in the Link or the Clarion-Ledger.

Anonymous said...

He can just as easily set the record straight on his blog. It is an internet "controversy" so he can answer in the same venue. The WLEZ signal footprint barely reaches Northside Drive. He certainly is under no obligation to engage via the JFP.

Tom Head said...

Agreed.



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