October 7 is to Israel what September 11 and December 7 are to Americans as Hamas terrorists and civilians invaded Israel and killed over 1,400 Israelis. Gazans tortured Israelis, kidnapped children, and yes, raped and mutilated women. The New York Times investigated the use of sexual violence against Israeli women and reported Thursday:
At first, she was known simply as “the woman in the black dress.”
In a grainy video, you can see her, lying on her back, dress torn, legs spread, vagina exposed. Her face is burned beyond recognition and her right hand covers her eyes.
The video was shot in the early hours of Oct. 8 by a woman searching for a missing friend at the site of the rave in southern Israel where, the day before, Hamas terrorists massacred hundreds of young Israelis....
A two-month investigation by The Times uncovered painful new details, establishing that the attacks against women were not isolated events but part of a broader pattern of gender-based violence on Oct. 7.
Relying on video footage, photographs, GPS data from mobile phones and interviews with more than 150 people, including witnesses, medical personnel, soldiers and rape counselors, The Times identified at least seven locations where Israeli women and girls appear to have been sexually assaulted or mutilated.....
And The Times interviewed several soldiers and volunteer medics who together described finding more than 30 bodies of women and girls in and around the rave site and in two kibbutzim in a similar state as Ms. Abdush’s — legs spread, clothes torn off, signs of abuse in their genital areas.....
The Times viewed photographs of one woman’s corpse that emergency responders discovered in the rubble of a besieged kibbutz with dozens of nails driven into her thighs and groin.
The Times also viewed a video, provided by the Israeli military, showing two dead Israeli soldiers at a base near Gaza who appeared to have been shot directly in their vaginas....
The Times viewed photographs of one woman’s corpse that emergency responders discovered in the rubble of a besieged kibbutz with dozens of nails driven into her thighs and groin.
The Times also viewed a video, provided by the Israeli military, showing two dead Israeli soldiers at a base near Gaza who appeared to have been shot directly in their vaginas....
One witness provided particularly horrifying testimony.
About 15 meters from her hiding place, she said, she saw motorcycles, cars and trucks pulling up. She said that she saw “about 100 men,” most of them dressed in military fatigues and combat boots, a few in dark sweatsuits, getting in and out of the vehicles. She said the men congregated along the road and passed between them assault rifles, grenades, small missiles — and badly wounded women.
“It was like an assembly point,” she said.
The first victim she said she saw was a young woman with copper-color hair, blood running down her back, pants pushed down to her knees. One man pulled her by the hair and made her bend over. Another penetrated her, Sapir said, and every time she flinched, he plunged a knife into her back.
She said she then watched another woman “shredded into pieces.” While one terrorist raped her, she said, another pulled out a box cutter and sliced off her breast.
“One continues to rape her, and the other throws her breast to someone else, and they play with it, throw it, and it falls on the road,” Sapir said.
She said the men sliced her face and then the woman fell out of view. Around the same time, she said, she saw three other women raped and terrorists carrying the severed heads of three more women.
Sapir provided photographs of her hiding place and her wounds, and police officials have stood by her testimony and released a video of her, with her face blurred, recounting some of what she saw....
45 comments:
Fucking animals, kill them all. ALL.
It’s way past time to make Trinitite out of that area. Gaza, then onto Iran and then Syria and Lebanon. Move then to Yemen, North Korea and tell the rest of the world to fuck off. These are the type of males (not men) that need to be castrated in front of their own families then die a violent death. After that, deal with their spawn the same way. Is have daughters and granddaughters I will go to the end of hell and back to make their killer pay.
All of the progressive brain dead Ivy League profs and students only recognize January 6 as tragic.
"The times viewed..."
"Eyewitnesses say..."
Meanwhile, well over 10,000 Gazan CHILDREN, non of whom assaulted any woman, have been killed by indiscriminate US-provided bombs.
KF, none of what I wrote here is false. If you don't approve, you're just another shill for Israel.
KF, I understand that you have to play to your boomer base, but at this point you’re just echoing poorly-written wartime propaganda. Israel ain’t the victim here.
This reads like bad snuff porn from the drug addled brain of an Israeli pornographer.
2:50. Israel has produced genius, art, science and a developed country. The Palestinians have contributed NOTHING except trading dates. A pitiful bunch to say the least.
2:50PM, Israel was not the aggressor. They were attacked and are just defending themselves. It does look like someone bit off more than they could chew.
October 7 is to Israel what September 11 and December 7
I see what you did there, fellow traveler!
Nicely done!
As George Bush, Barack Obama, Dick Chaney, Colin Powell and many others so eloquently put, “ the religion of peace”.
2:50, don’t believe everything you hear at your Klan meetings.
By your reasoning, the United States was not the victim at Pearl Harbor since we were able to later dish out payback?
2:42 & 2:50, I wish people like you had a swastika carved into their forehead so we would know who you are and you couldn’t hide.
2:42, You seem to question the veracity of the NYT writer's claim to have personally viewed video evidence. Yet, you then state a fact of 10,000 children killed by bombs, with no citation whatsoever.
What gives? Are you just making stuff up? Or do you just not care if it's true, which makes you no different than Trump supporters who don't care if he's guilty of trying to overthrow the government.
@2:42 PM - Those are numbers that the Hamas terrorists feed to the lame stream media. They have their own "Baghdad Bob."
Do a little research and learn how many we killed in 1945 in Tokyo with napalm - hint - many more than killed by our nukes.
War is hell.
@2:42. Palestinians literally break their own peace treaty, invade another country, rape and murder women and children, and you think it’s the Israelis that started it? Things were peaceful until the Palestinian aggression. If they did that to the US, would you still feel the same way? The antisemitism and liberal brainwash is strong with you.
And honestly, Israel was invaded and has the international right to defend itself kill as many Palestinians as it feels necessary. And they should. They f@cked around and now they found out. I don’t feel bad for them at all.
If Hamas wouldn’t store the bombs at schools and hospitals and dig tunnels none of this would be happening.
@3:45, Your ignorance aside, there is no justification for the mass slaughter of children. None.
2:42 and 2:50- If Hamas had raped and killed your wife, put your kids in an oven to kill them and then go hide behind Gazan CHILDREN when Israel soldiers came for them, what would you do? I look forward to your reply.
@4:04, You sound like the type of person who has unironically said, "she was asking for it."
The 10,000+ dead children were not members of Hamas.
@5:35, None of that ever happened.
@4:19, Don't conflate Israelis with Jews. I can oppose Israel without hating Jews (just ask antiwar Jews).
For all the pro-Israel commenters, tell me what an acceptable number of dead civilians is. Have the courage to put a number on it.
Unfortunately, there are a significant number of people whose ideology, ignorance or (most likely) a combination of both that results in a complete absence of any understanding whatsoever of the history of the region and the underlying conflict. The Jewish people have continually resided in Land of Israel/Judea (so-named throughout antiquity until changed to “Roman Palestine” by the Romans after a series of revolts) since at least 1700 BC (and some 1300 years before the invention of Islam). Although Israel did control Gaza for several decades after annexing the territory from Egypt as a result of the 1967 war, it has not been control of region since ceding control to the Arab “Palestinians” in 2005. The Palestinians voted Hamas into power and it is Hamas (with the tacit consent of the Palestinians) who attacked Israel. This is of course a very rudimentary account of a complex history, and I would politely suggest that 2:42p, 2:50p and others similarly uninformed would benefit spending more time reading an accurate, unbiased history text rather than the daily chyrons on CNN/MSNBC.
@4:52, War is hell indeed - that's why I oppose it. I prefer to be aligned with heaven. By the way, I'm an actual combat vet, are you?
Using past atrocities to justify current atrocities is a bad argument (you've got to break a few eggs, right, Tough Guy). Civilian casualties were just as unacceptable then as they are now.
" killed by indiscriminate US-provided bombs "
Well 2:42 ... do you have any commentary on the (purposefully discriminate) Iranian-provided terror weapons that Hamas used to start this War ?
Y’all know that there are Christian Palestinians, right? And that 1 of 5 Israelis are Atheists? This isn’t a “Muslim vs Jew” thing. I can’t believe I still need to say this in the Information Age.
War is war period and there is no way to fight it neatly. Under your logic, we couldn't fight Germany or Japan unless we could do so without killing children.
Suppose the Cartels came over and killed 50,000 Americans, the equivalent of what Israel lost that day. What do you think would happen?
"Suppose, what if..."
The cartels kill way more than 50,000 Americans every year in the form of illicit drugs (about twice that, actually). I still don't think we should bomb all the schools and hospitals in Mexico City.
5:44, I can tell you what an acceptable number of civilian casualties is - how many ever it takes to rid Gaza of Hamas, just as in WWII the acceptable number was whatever it took to force Germany and Japan to capitulate. Israel does not want to kill any civilians, but they are in a war started by Hamas. You need to listen to some of the voices of reason on this blog and pass the info on to some of your friends at your next cross burning.
5:44, When it comes to members of Hamas, my answer is: all of them.
May God have mercy on me, that is my honest answer at this point in time.
They didn’t forget and neither will the children of Gaza. The cycle will never end.
Many of you are too young to know about all of the Americans that Palestinians/PLO have murdered.
Start with Googling "Leon Klinghoffer."
Then for their pals in Hezbollah, Google "Robert Stethem."
This is the tip of the iceberg.
Don't forget the dozens of airlines that were hijacked. It was almost a weekly event. Here is a sample: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawson%27s_Field_hijackings
There will be no lasting peace attained until Palestinians love their children more than they hate Jews
@5:44 all of them until the threat is permanently neutralized
"There will be no lasting peace attained until Palestinians love their children more than they hate Jews."
Spoken like someone who doesn't know a single Palestinian.
@5:44–did you see the TV clip when Hamas paraded the captured women and children thru the streets and the people were cheering . These were not soldiers but civilian men, women and children. Unfortunetly , I have only seen this once—wonder why the news media doesn’t show every night when they show the civilian casualties?
To add to 11:51:
. . . and until all Muslims reject the idea that they can get to heaven by committing indiscriminate murder.
Any well-informed person knows the history of the Middle East only started on October 7, 2023.
12:28 obviously has never seen the video of the Gazan kindergarten program where the "heroic" Palestinians attack a Jewish home and murder the Jews. The children then received a standing ovation from the parents.
These little darlings are trained from birth to murder Jews.
"Spoken like someone who doesn't know a single Palestinian."
Those words, sir/ma'am/undecided, were most assuredly spoken by someone that knew what is called Palestinians. Her name was Golda Meir. You should research this woman, her quotes, and her impact on the Middle East.
Hooray , Kingfish published my fooliness along with DL’s and everyone else!
I'm sorry I am having trouble believing this stuff. Sounds a little like propaganda designed to dehumanize nice Moslem neighborhood boys. I'm sure there are plenty atrocities to go around but the idea of one guy raping a woman while his buddies play catch were her severed breast is hard for me to swallow.
I am not taking up for either side but our buddies the Israelis did a pretty fair job of murdering three of their own, shirtless and with a white flag.
It is not my fight, anymore than the Ugandan Civil War, or any of the numerous other displays of savagery that have been going on continuously since the dawn of man. Suffice it to say I am not crazy about either side.
I ain't going to no Psych Trans festival in the middle of a desert some few miles from an open air zoo -- where the monkeys have hang-gliders and RPGs.
HAMAS is a terrorist group cloaked in "politics". They, like the KKK and Nazis and Proud Boys and the many false prophets with whom they eventually shared a prison record are sociopaths who seek power. They have no moral ground.
You all seem oblivious to The Geneva Convention. That some would ignore it, seems to make some of you justify ignoring it. And, yet the worse hypocrisy in trying to justify it is using with a religious justification. NO religion, even Islam justifies the killing of those who have done YOU NO HARM. Only bizarre sects like Hamas or the Taliban don't accept that primitive behaviors are just that... primitive. We have learned better ways to solve problems. People have learned to read.
Israel hasn't been perfect in their response. They forgot that revenge is a dish that is best served cold. Cold prevents the rotten smell of becoming like your enemy and creating new enemies.
And, before anyone throws " an eye for an eye" out,try to remember Jesus had more than a little to say about the Old Testament's shortcomings.
For those of you parroting the "Gazans are all terrorists" trope, I'd strongly encourage you to follow a few Gaza personalities on social media. There are people on the ground in Gaza right now capturing scenes of war and daily life, and it doesn't take long to see that most Gazans are just like us: families trying to get by, caught in a bad situation. Seriously, go and see for yourselves - there's no excuse to be uninformed in this day and age.
You can start on Instagram with @ahmedhijazee
My prayers for Israel are unending. I cannot imagine the horror they have seen. This sort of violence is unfathomable and these monsters deserve to be mutilated in return, slowly until the die.
It is so sad that Hamas has been allowed to become what it is and that innocent Gazan children are being harmed by the war that Israel has every right to defend against.
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