Jackson has one dead thug on the streets today as a robbery attempt in Northeast Jackson went awry.
Eastover & Pinewood. |
A doctor was leaving home to compete in a shooting competition held at Magnolia Pistol Range in Byram at approximately 7:45 AM today. He made several trips from the house to his truck carrying what he needed for the competition. Unknown to him, two black males were cruising Ridgewood Road looking for someone to rob. They happened upon him walking to his truck near the intestection Ridgewood and Eastover roads. They took him captive at gunpoint and forced him drive to an ATM and withdraw a large amount of money. They also mentioned some intentions concerning his wife who was back at home. Intentions that were not exactly nice in nature.
They stopped at Eastover and Pinewood. They told him to get out of the vehicle. The good Doc managed to grab a pistol as he exited the truck and began firing. He shot and killed an Edwin Robinson of Cooper Road. One person at the scene said "he shot the shit out of him". The other suspect managed to run away and is currently at-large. It should be noted that there are woods on one side of the road. The suspect apparently had parked a tan SUV over at Northminister Baptist Church. He ran to the church and left in the SUV. It did not have a license plate.
JJ is withholding the identity of the victim at this time.
Update: Here is his criminal record according to my research.
There were no felonies or indictments filed at the circuit clerk's office. Justice Court clerk and jail records show:
Simple Assault
Resisting Arrest
Seat Belt Violation
Disobeying a Law Enforcement Officer
Public Profanity
169 comments:
Its good the man defended himself, his wife and his home. It is his right to do so. It is also good that there is one less criminal on the street.
That the criminal lost his life was by his own choosing.
I must have missed the Clarion Ledger's coverage of this.
Always love a happy ending to a story.
Score one for the "Good Guys".
It's in the CL now on their web page. Posted at 1057.
Between Smith, Cooper-Stokes and Greene.....if they'd been caught they would have been back on the street in record time.
Glad the guy is ok and the thug is dead.
This is why I moved out of the city though. It's not worth putting my life at risk and my family in an attempt to save a dying city. As the buffer around Eastover continues to shrink, these type of incidents will continue to occur.
you say he killed 'an Eddie Robinson' and then you say that you're withholding the identity.....huh?
talk about poetic justice!!! I absolutely LUV it!! Just hope none of the good guys were hurt--
As the buffer around Eastover continues to shrink, these type of incidents will continue to occur.
Yup, and we ain't goin' down without a fight. Every MFing thug better be ready because we are packing and ready for action.
Get ready for the wrongful death suits. You can rest assured there will be some since the man defending himself is a doctor, living in an affluent section of town and might have some money to get.
The thug style streetside memorial will have a lot of OOPS balloons?
Good luck with that. Wish he had shot the shit out of both of them.
As someone who professes a dislike for red tape Young Harvey Yarber should be very pleased with the results. Too bad it wasn't a two-bagger.
I heard that neighborhood has a lot of competitive shooters living in it.
"My baby may be a carjacker and drug dealer but he ain't no murderer," will the plantiff's cry in court. And sadly, the medical board will have there say without due process. I feel so sorry for Dr. Anonymous, it will be the end of his practice. Thankfully he is close to retirement.
CL will run a picture of decedent in church choir robe when he was eight with promise to b brain surgeon. Get ready for series of gun control articles. As everyone knows, gun control laws only restrict law abiding citizens.Jackson is such a wonderful place to live!
Kingfish, please stay on the matter and find out the criminal history of these two. I live next door to the Dr. and was outside when this went down.
I also want to note the CL headline on the matter uses the term "alleged" - another example of the bias from the "traditional" press.
Good Thug = Dead Thug
11:56, fortunately the Castle Doctrine includes language disallowing wrongful death lawsuits in this type of situation.
You guys disappoint me. Certainly you can turn this in a way to blame Oxford House. Come on Will!
A group a wanna-be tough guys against a bad-ass competition shooter!!! If only he could have hit his timer when he started shooting. Would love to see the splits and beginning to end time. Good shooting doc!!!
Gosh, the two thugs have finally been ID'd as two black males. Who would have thunk it?
http://www.wjtv.com/story/29082208/jpd-man-kills-suspect-in-self-defense-after-being-robbed-and-kidnapped-at-gunpoint-other-suspect-still-at-large
Then again, this is why I carry a gun living in this town.
He should have tried reasoning with them. I have always thought that our ability as humans to reason separates us from animals. I can't see why that wouldn't have worked in this instance.
I would not trust my due process in the hands of the citizens of Hinds County. I stay out of hinds at all costs.
My evidence to support this claim: Mrs. Stokes was elected a judge.
Doubt the medical board will pull his license or even reprimand him. He reacted appropriately, only wish he shot the second perp, too. Mama's best teach your youngins to stay out of other people's business, or they'll end up up "holier" than the good Lord intended, if they step foot on my property. If you don't live in my neighborhood or aren't invited, you best stay out.
apparently the robbers had no idea how close this house is to Whole Foods
Y'all are idiots.
One for the people. Thanks for taking a thug off the street. Just imagine if this happens every day, Jackson would be a safer place!
Good for this gentlemen! I'm only sorry that both of these thugs are not dead! The only thing that will help Jackson is for this to be the result every time one of these sorry thugs break into someone's home or try something like this. I'm just happy there was no physical harm done to this man or his wife.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Surely they will be able to find the other one.
Please let us know with updates when they get him.
Thanks again for your bravery and a courage in taking a thug out.
I don't think that events went as planned.
If only they had garnered those JFP internships they would have avoided this unfortunate fate. Well Donner, it is only one dead thug.
Another form of delayed birth control. Thin the herd!
I can hear it now. Yeah, buddy. He got 'em. That is what I would've done. That will teach 'em a lesson.
Well, tactically speaking, the Doc is damn lucky to live.
1. They got the drop on him. It's before 8:00 AM. He was walking to his truck. They didn't know his truck had firearms or ammo. They just saw an older white guy and figured easy pickings.
Despite his training, despite his guns, despite his skill, they still got the drop on him. That is more important than firepower.
2. He was at their mercy until they made him get out of the truck and he converted that moment of opportunity into action. They could've popped him at any time before that moment.
3. Speaking of popping him, on one side of the street is a house. The other side of the street is woods. Why do you think they were making him get out in front of the woods after telling him what they were going to do to his wife?
4. In other words, he was lucky and got that one moment. He took advantage of it. But the important part was they got the jump on him in the first place.
One a day makes my day!
Kingfish, in response to your comments:
There is a scientific fact that action time is quicker than reaction time. To put in a way that most Mississippians can understand, that is why the most successful football coaches put their better athletes on defense. Regardless of a private citizen's training or experience, it would be exceeding difficult to function in society in a manner that a criminal does not have the tactical advantage. The criminal acts first. That is why it is called selfdefense. The criminal always has the advantage. Further, most private citizens have a respect for the law, criminals do not: advantage criminal! There are ways one can minimize ones disadvantages, but the disadvantage can not be eliminated.
Good Guy: 1 Bad Guy: 0 bwahahahaha!
Live thug can be charged criminally for the death if dead thug.
Eastover needs gates. Those thugs should not be allowed to drive down that part of Ridgewood. Seriously.
A gate from Meadowbrook to Eastover drive?
Move the school, (no one in the neighborhood attends anyway); move the churches and lock it down. The tax base is too important to Jackson to be left at risk.
Exactly! I mean, why address the systemic and widespread problems in our city and state that lead to these little thugs having little to no other choice but crime when you can just wait for them to commit the crime we all know they are going to and hopefully get lucky enough to shoot them? Much easier solution.
"You guys disappoint me. Certainly you can turn this in a way to blame Oxford House. Come on Will!"
May 16, 2015 at 1:22 PM
Actually, it's covered under "...as the buffer around Eastover continues to shrink...".
Mollie may not be as "above it all" as she presumably thinks she is.
People who live less than fifteen seconds off Ridgewood should not consider themselves to be immune to fallout from urban decay on Northside.
Eastover is on the decline and this won't help. Gates will never happen since the property owners would have to maintain streets. Eastover isn't exactly Highland Park or Mountain Brook. That's real wealth and not done on credit. Here's your solution: flee!
Give him some more bullets, so he can shoot the shit out of the rest of those worthless pieces of shit that inhibit the city if Jackson!
You can't fence and gate all that area, and I think the doctor might live north of Eastover on Ridgewood Road. All I know is he is one fortunate man to be alive now. It is a miracle those thugs didn't kill him before he could kill one of them. I just wish he had killed both of them. Two thugs off the street is better any day than one. Everyone, please be alert wherever you live.
Where is Mountain Brook? I'm not from around these parts.
...having little to no other choice but crime ...
But crime and DEATH!
They are reporting that this matter will be presented to a grand jury.
That is preposterous.
Not long ago a black man wasted a kid while rummaging through his car. No charges - no grand jury. That kid was unarmed.
Ruts, the bastid left Ruts, hope he resist arrest.
Anonymous @ 11:31 AM, the identity that is being withheld is the victim. Read-the man that was jumped by the thugs. The dead guy is NOT the victim.
4:31:
You should really dedicate your career to these poor little rascals forced into crime as their only possible career..
[whistling while I clean some guns...]
Not that it matters, but this incident occurred just behind the blind school. That would be the section of Eastover Drive to the west of Ridgewood Road.
I guess Jackson is turning into Ciraq (Chicago+Iraq).New name
Jairaq.
When will you add "like" buttons to the comments?? This needs to be top priority!!
If only Jeff and Donna had helped these two youths find their collective voices, they too could have risen above oppression and flown or something like that.
I am some proud of that doctor for having a gun, knowing how to use it, and having the courage to do so. If more law abiding citizens did the same thing, we would have fewer thugs on the street because they would get what they deserve. Now I cannot wait to hear his Mama talk about what a good boy he was.
nuff said
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8Ppyskw5Vw
I just dropped a dime (gave the Jackson police a tip) to check & see if Northminister Baptist Church has surveillance cameras. The video could give police the license plate of the SUV.
5:14 - Mountain Brook is a suburb of Birmingham, AL. Lots of wealth, fine homes, etc. They are a separate city. No public gates or walls, but they have their own police force that keeps a tight lid on things.
Celebrating a death... You all need Jesus! You can't love Him if you don't love one another. The church needs to step up and BE the church! We can't depend on our government, it's our job.
@7:14pm unfortunately not. it's a sore subject. Do you remember when 6 people were mugged in the church parking lot last summer? you'd think that would warrant some changes...not a pollyanna approach.
"you say he killed 'an Eddie Robinson' and then you say that you're withholding the identity of the victim.....huh?"
The guy that got removed from the gene pool is the VICTIM??? No---he's the
criminal. The doc is the victim.
Article this morning said the can had no license tag
7:33 No celebration for me. Just a sense of relief that there is now one less sorry thug in Jackson to rape, rob, or kill someone else.
Nearby that location was where the woman who was pet sitting got shot. Right across the street from Northminster. When the thug DMZ moves from State Street to Ridgewood IT IS GOODBYE FOREVER JACKUSTAN TAX BASE.
KF-what do you know about the dead kidnapper? Prior criminal record?
That score card would be 3 Alpha, 2 Charlie, in 2.07 seconds with a Hit Factor of 10.1449. The second perp is considered a Disappearing Target which when activated, at the end of its movement is no longer available and there are no penalties for misses and only bonus points for hits. Good shooting, buddy!
631. No, this incident did not occur just behind the blind school. It started at the victim's home on Ridgewood Rd very near Northminister Baptist Church, and thug was shot just west of Ridgewood Rd. on Pinewood Drive.
Good for the doctor. My only regret is that he ran out of bullets before he could get both of them. I wonder what the other thug thinks now about how good of an idea that was. Maybe he will try it again with someone equally as prepared, capable, and willing to act, and he can join his bro......
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!!!
"Forced him to withdraw a large amount of money...". I thought there was a $300 transaction limit on ATM withdrawals.
The whole story is crazy, if not questionable. Two criminals and one old man and he is able to pick up a firearm from the seat of the vehicle while they are distracted? They didn't know it was sitting there?
Most comical of all the posts is Kingfish weighing in (after fifty posts) to set all the dummies straight with no less than bullet points for the proletariat. The professor walks to the front of the classroom to summarize while all the little people mumble.
@1:22 Seriously? You approve moving in more criminals? Niice.
This whole thing saddens me - hate that a 22 year old is dead and presumably not in a better place, but he made those choices. So young, but he threatened others and so what do you do? I have a gun and will use it without a second thought if my family is attacked. On a side note - did anyone else see the report of a guy trying to steal cars on RIchardson, who then ran to "gated" Bridgwater and stole a car there? Not sure where is safe now.
"Exactly! I mean, why address the systemic and widespread problems in our city and state that lead to these little thugs having little to no other choice but crime when you can just wait for them to commit the crime we all know they are going to and hopefully get lucky enough to shoot them? Much easier solution."
Look at this goober. Really, look at him/her. Lecturing us on how little we care. Sell your computer, the one you're using to lecture us, goober. Heck, sell all your belongings, including house and car. Give it to the thugs who "have little to no other choice" but to rape the wife of an innocent man. Your words, not mine, goober. FOLLOW YOUR OWN ADVICE, you morally bankrupt sack of worthless. Good Lord, some people's children.
@chaucer's legacy - how long has it been since you had a bank account? It's been a minimum of $600 for at least 3 years. Regardless, are you defending men who attached an older guy at gunpoint, threatened to rape his wife, and it didn't go so well for them? What is your point? Ya think someone staged a fake kidnapping or what? These two poor guys just were suckered in to being accused of kidnapping? Are you serious????? Please go to whatever crazy forum is out there for people who support crime. They will welcome you with open arms. And maybe you can love those guys when they move into your neighborhood. SMH
Jackson is ready to fight back. Here's proof. Totally hate that a young man made such a bad choice, but he created this situation. Thank you, Kingfish, for reporting. It's not just Jxn, it's happening in Ridgeland (hello, Bridgewater car theft today) and we all have to work together to keep our neighborhoods safe.
To the comment that they got the drop on the doctor. I imagine he had his handguns in a shooting bag, without magazine in it. So he had to grab the gun, get a mag in there and chamber. Very fast.
I guess the wee thuggies thought it was his medical bag. :-)
Here's the facebook page of the sorry POS that left this world for a much hotter environment this morning.https://www.facebook.com/guttalife.robinson
Seems he was a member of the Gangster Disciples.
So loading a pickup is the latest way to chum for thugs. Thanks for the tip!
Poor life choices do have consequences.......
From a former Western New York State resident turned Connecticut Yankee, allow me to congratulate this fine doctor. And blah blah to the thugs...
Nice Facebook page he had. Flashing gang signs, pics of guns in his waistband. Nice kid. One minute he's talking about being saved by Jesus the next he's talking about eating &)$$((() and f this and f that. Who says shit like that on their fb page.
Anon @ 10:09; I have a bank account NOW, dildo breath. And the limit per transaction at Regions is $300. Nobody is suggesting the event was staged. The comment was directed at the reporter (KF) who said 'large amount of money', as was the comment regarding his weighing in to set the little people skrate. Get it? Got it. Good.
Might not be a bad idea for JPD to keep tabs on the people who are friends of the deceased thug on his Facebook page.
Chauncer...I was on scene when police were taking his shooting bag out of his truck. It was in the rear drivers floorboard of an extended cab truck. So I doubt they even knew it was there. It wasn't like he had his pistol laying out in full site. Nothing fishy about it at all.
"Jackson has one dead thug on the streets today"
Can't believe y'all went through 60 comments and no one noticed the article should have made international headlines! A real zombi
Seriously, Sorry for my friend who did the shooting and the terror he must have felt throughout the event. Now, I have a self-imposed $200.00 limit on my ATM and, I can draw as small amount as $20.00. Don't know 'bout the fellow with a $600.minimum posted above. About neighborhood gates: Do not believe you have to maintain the streets with gates in place; the Country Club got new pavement from the City and they have a gate. The new trend is for passive gates, which means that anyone can sit and wait for the gate to open, they just get photographed while they are sitting there. This method does help prevent crime and is becoming more popular. Atlanta is full of "walled mini-cities" and it is growing. Gates and fences built community and prevent crime as well as people speeding through a neighborhood thus allowing more walking and children playing.
The videos on his Facebook page are exactly what you would expect from this kind of trash. Social parasite!
Facebook post from the recently deceased Mr. Robinson
GuttaLife Dee Robinson
February 16 ·
They told me i wasnt gon b shit but FUCK EM!!!
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HaHa, looks like they were right!
Thanks for posting that FB page ... I had no idea someone could be that incredibly base. IQ 80? I hope he was wearing that t-shirt 'I BE KILLIN IT' when he checked out. Other highlights: 'ever day u be abut grounds a good day', being in the 'thug taliban', and his mother rapping about her preference in penises...
Also of interest: MSU student? AND EMPLOYED AT THE MERCEDES DEALERSHIP, so if you get your car serviced there, he could check your address etc
I applaud the doctor's quick thinking and bravery.
I'm impressed that, unlike the unimaginative sissies who fled Jackson and continue to urge cowardice, the doctor stayed so he could be nearer his patients.
The doctor is a REAL man.
A real man is capable of defending himself and securing his home and family. He doesn't fear ignorant bullies.
Y'all have more genetically in common with the thugs than the doctor!
God help us if this Nation is ever under attack. Most of you would be refugees rather than stand and fight for our country!
"I have a dream" that more people who did not consider purchasing a gun for protection will start doing so in larger numbers now. Even after my truck was broken into at the I-55 Target and things stolen did not encourage me to purchase a gun but this incident put me over the top. Where should I buy a pistol? Also will get pistol shooting lessons, etc.
Guttalife Dee Robinson (FB) was a sick predator. I'm glad he is dead.
My Regions account has a $600 limit. Maybe the victim had a gun under his front seat. A common place to keep your everyday riding around gun. He gets out, reaches for his gun with his left hand, shoots with either his right or left hand. It would happen quickly, especially if numnuts in the front seat is looking right and the victim is acting scared and feeble.
8:50
Just make sure you get a glock and practice a lot.
Vans in Brandon has a huge selection.
If you want to see what's wrong with the black youth ( not all black youth but the majority) just look at there Facebook pages. They post the vilest of the vile and I guess they don't care who sees it. The stuff that Guttalife was posting is pretty common. i have some weird friend suggestions come up on my Facebook page (I guess due to the business I'm in) and I've looked at a few of them out of curiousity. Absolutely disgusting things that they say about women. If I posted that garbage even in my youth I would have been shunned and smacked by mom and dad. But no matter how you were raised, getting some guns and going to the nice part of town to rob somebody should never go thru your mind. He got exactly what he deserved and so did all the other ones that strayed to the burbs and northeast Jackson.
KF and the others who understand that being ambushed puts one at a disadvantage are right.
The doctor's brain was a critical weapon in his survival.
And, to some of you have poor comprehension skills if you can't tell the difference between defending the criminal and advocating crime prevention!
Very few of these violent criminals came out of their mother's womb as sociopaths!
We are doing a piss poor job of protecting and raising and educating children in this country and your prejudices and arrogance and self-righteousness is not helping address a very real problem!
Brad Harbour teaches a really good class.
Enhanced carry classes and other forms of firearms training.
10:09; Please cite any post above that advocates for or supports the criminals in this situation. Thanks. I'll wait.
Maybe I have missed it, but it seems like the second perp should have been arrested by now. Surely the police could lean on a few known associates and find out who #2 is.
"We are doing a piss poor job of protecting and raising and educating children in this country and your prejudices and arrogance and self-righteousness is not helping address a very real problem!"
What do you mean "we"? The children of most people posting here are statistically unlikely to be involved in crime. We've raised our kids right. Saying that isn't arrogance or self-righteousness (as you so arrogantly and self-righteously claim), it's what you're supposed to do, the minimum level of competence as a parent. What do you imagine we have failed to do here, drive on down to the ghetto and give parking lot lectures on why rape and robbery are bad so please don't do that ok? Your little Society Failed Them card has been overplayed. We've spent trillion$$$ on social welfare programs. Many of us have volunteered our time and resources in outreach programs, taking away from our own families to contribute to others. We haven't failed them. You know who failed them? Their parents and their extended family members, who were too busy clubbing and fighting and drinking and drugging and robbing and rioting and engaging in mindblowing levels of sexual promiscuity to actually parent their own children. You are out of your gourd if you expect the school system or churches or volunteer-staffed mentoring organizations like Big Brother/Big Sister to have any significant chance of counteracting the familial cesspool thugs like this were raised in. As long as we subsidize and excuse this twisted version of "family", it will continue to produce thugs who see it as their right to prey on the decent people of society.
Y'all have more genetically in common with the thugs than the doctor!
Bet you shuddered in righteous excitement laying that line on everyone here. Now go change your wetted adult diaper.
If you want firearms training . Action Firearms Training here in the metro area offers all kinds of classes. Check them out on Facebook .
11:28 am
You make a number of assumptions and either stupidly or deliberately read into my remarks things I didn't write.
I absolutely did NOT defend the programs you mentioned, but pointed out that they are not succeeding.
I said " we" , because if you are raising your children to be like you, they will have your inability to have a civilized discussion, engage in analytical thinking or strategically address the future! And, " we" refers to the collective society toward which some of see ourselves as a responsible member!
Like GuttaLife, you are belligerent to be belligerent and flex your muscles instead of your brain!
How. pray tell. do you plan to stop this trend? Do you plan to keep moving? Do you think this feral member of our species has not already procreated? Do you think him and others like him are not reproducing themselves several times over? Do you think you can insult or belittle his type into good behavior or convince him to find Jesus tomorrow?
We can't have a serious discussion about crime or much of any damn thing else, because you, like GuttaLife, would rather be angry than rational and stir the shit rather than clean it up!
May 17, 2015 at 12:40 PM
Get down off your cross. We need the wood.
what 11:38 said ! ! You said it well too!
We can't have a serious discussion ...
Can't have no "serious discussion" when numbskulls like you want to set the terms of the "serious discussion". Go take that shit over the Hallelujah Chorus over at the JFP. I'm sure that Tom Head and the rest will sing a few bars with you.
One thing I've not seen mentioned here.....Granted the doctor was defending himself and his family and I totally understand that. Now that its had some time to sink in that he took another mans life, what do you suppose he's feeling today?
There are a lot of arm chair quarterbacks that claim they could do it in a heartbeat but no one knows what they will do or how they will react until it happens to them.
I'm sure he's glad he was able to defend himself, but he has to be so shaken up. You have to wonder too - the other guy is on the loose and knows where he lives and is probably pretty angry Doc killed his friend! I really hope they don't come back and try to retaliate.
Now that its had some time to sink in that he took another mans life, what do you suppose he's feeling today?
What does it matter to you?
He's feeling relief that he spared his wife any harm.
Personally, I don't want to explore how the good doctor is feeling today beyond imagining he's content that he and his wife are alive and unharmed. That kind of unnecessary navel gazing can introduce doubt and hesitation if/when I ever have to make the same split second decision he made. I don't want those kinds of negative, distracting thoughts in my mind as I aim for center mass and take up the slack in the trigger. There's enough distraction in contemplating the possibility that some overly ambitious DA will decide to make an example out of me. No need to make it even harder to do what I have to do.
1:54 - I have a feeling it was the comments/suggestions by the perps that they were about to go hurt/rape his wife that likely sent him over the edge. In a similar situation, I can tell you for sure I wouldn't hesitate to take out someone threatening my spouse or children.
If it were me in that situation, I would defend myself however I needed to defend myself. Would I feel good about shooting and killing the criminal, no but I wouldn't regret or hesitate defending myself, family, or whomever is with me. No matter where you live it's important to be aware of your surroundings. However, when it gets to the point that every time you come out of your house you're adraid of being carjacked etc...it's time to move.
I can guarantee that I would not have any doubts about shooting somebody that just threatened my wife and family. Thankfully he did shoot those animals because they would have done who knows what to his wife. If I see him at the gym tomorrow, I plan on telling him job well done. These thugs need to know that death is a very real consequence if they decide threaten somebody.
Get out of Hinds county now while you are still alive.
Some of you stun and sicken me. If you looked at the late thug's FB page, and are aware of the facts of the event (carjacking/kidnapping/armed robbery, along with threat of assaulting or raping this guy's wife), when they told him to get out, you think they were just going to let him go to summon the police?Chances are they were going to shoot him. If you aren't smart enough and man enough to act, then please don't make it worse by wallowing in pity for thuglife and his ilk.
This sorry thug is dead, and the doctor who was the victim of a armed kidnapping from his own home is alive along with his wife. I doubt seriously he regrets what he did other than regretting all the events ever happened period. He is a brave man. He did what he had to do.
This whole story is sad on so many levels. First, I think the rational, thinking folks out there would unanimously support what the good doctor did. He had no choice, and he did what I hope we would all have done under such adverse and frightening circumstances, especially considering the threat to his wife. If you view one or two of the crook's videos on Facebook you will realize how frightening it must have been to have been kidnapped by such a person.
Second, I think all of this cheerleading is misplaced. I am sure the shooter--a good man--is struggling with the fact that he had to kill a man, albeit in self defense and to protect his wife. As a veteran of the First Infantry Division, I never met a fellow soldier who felt good about killing a man. Soldiers have to kill, but it is never a happy occasion.
Third, this event is another blow to the city where my grandparents, parents and I grew up. I have always loved Jackson, but I must disclose that I moved out of jackson in 2006 after having lived in four different homes in the Belhaven area since my birth many years ago. Twelve years ago when a friend asked me if she and her husband should buy a home in Easter, I advised they would never get their money back. They built in Madison County. They have thanked me many times for the advise. So sad.
Back to the crook, it is really sad that there are many like him in Jackson, Mississippi. Many of you will not think this through, but the man is a product of the culture in Jackson. I will not suggest who is the blame, but I will say again--it is so sad.
Finally, it is so sad that since the Belhaven killing and now with the broad daylight kidnapping in NE Jackson, nobody will ever feel safe again anywhere in Jackson. People--blacks and whites--will continue to move to adjacent counties to find safety. The Jackson tax base will continue to plummet, and there will never be enough money to remedy the infrastructure issues in the city. No, the legislature will not bail Jackson out.
Finally, think it is sad that so many people post racial comments that are so hateful. May God bless us all.
The only real problem here is that they are going to start just shooting people first now.
damn navel gazing ding bats---I was involved in an auto accident 40 years ago--other guy killed--COMPLETELY his fault--I have NEVER had a moments thought about what happened--SOB almost killed ME!! RADICALLY different concept than the guilt that wud arise from backing over ur 2 yr old child!! GET REAL!!!
"I never met a fellow soldier who felt good about killing a man. Soldiers have to kill, but it is never a happy occasion."
WRONG
Shooter ready?
Stand by
BEEP
Good shooting Doc.
ooops, I apologize, you must not have met the soldiers I have.
I shoot in competition to, would love to test my skills on a couple of thugs.
@ 5:45
Welcome to the Army. Your experiences may vary.
If this shooting death of a documented criminal by his own FB makes any of the other thugs in Jackson think twice before they rob someone...so be it.
@1:22 yesterday. This man's sidekick (or some of his FB friends) might be moving into an Oxford House near you. Then you would thank the Senator for all his work! It could happen....
My wife and I grew up in Jackson and now live in Copiah county with 4 large dogs on a few acres. I work in Jackson and am well aware. There are a few guns, (870 pump, 10/22) in my truck and...oh well. Good luck and be careful out there
How in the Hell do these two shitholes go out at 6:30 in the morning to do their gutta work ??? Beyond understanding.
Something I've been wondering/thinking a lot about lately. I no longer live nearby but my parents still live in the house in NE Jackson where I grew up.
Why doesn't 39211 secede from Jackson and incorporate itself as its own township?
There's precedent elsewhere (I don't know Mississippi Code, but in other states). I am sure I sound like a crazy Tea Party-er here (of which I am not one, truly), but has anyone explored this?
Fuck the monster. Fuck him.
Good job Doc! I live in Jackson and will now be very, very cautious when leaving and entering my house. Any suspicious blacks walking the street will get a speed dial call to the police.
The crime spree is not new in Jackson. 10 years ago I looked outside my window and witness this passenger car park by my driveway. The driver a women (mother) told her teenage son to get out and lift the 2 potted plant by the driveway into the trunk of their car. This teen age boy did it so fast I didn't put 2 and 2 together until they sped off. So your mind has to understand (comprehend) what going on before you react. The criminal has his plan and exercuting it as fast as possible. Sadly, the pots were cheap plastic and the plants were half dead.
As a veteran of the First Infantry Division, I never met a fellow soldier who felt good about killing a man.
Appeal to Authority FALLACY.
How in the Hell do these two shitholes go out at 6:30 in the morning to do their gutta work ???
Just like they follow seniors and the unsuspecting home from the I55 Kroger at quitting time/dusk. They look to prey on their victims when they least expect a gun and a holdup. If it wasn't this doctor Saturday morning it would have been someone else.
9:11 You obviously are proud you read some book on logic but you failed miserably to understand it. The vet posted of his personal experience, which you can neither endorse nor refute since you weren't there with him 24/7/365.
You could refute his claim by posting one single, VERIFIABLE report of a "fellow soldier who felt good about killing a man", but you didn't. You either can't understand the concept (although you think you do in your adorable pseudointellectual way) but you really just annoy the grownups who do understand these things y your constant, predictable, interjections of "Appeal to Authority FALLACY."
Like the vet who posted of his experience I have treated hundreds of vets and not known one who "felt good about killing a man". Quite often it's the opposite, and part of the basis of PTSD.
"Anonymous said...
you say he killed 'an Eddie Robinson' and then you say that you're withholding the victims identity.....huh?"
Dumbass, the victim wasn't the robber.
The victim was the doctor that they kidnapped, robbed, and threatened his wife.
It's called critical thinking. Use it.
I have treated hundreds of vets and not known one who "felt good about killing a man". Quite often it's the opposite, and part of the basis of PTSD.
Appeal to Authority FALLACY.
This is the vet again. I can understand how we felt good tactically about killing the enemy to advance our cause, but I never knew a soldier who felt good about the act of killing another person.
So, I still think and believe that the good doctor is struggling with the pain of shooting another human even thought it was the right thing to do. I really feel for him.
This is trite, but I remember when my dad had to have our little dog put to sleep for many reasons. My dad, a WWII vet, weeped after the procedure. This should tell you something.
The Dr. Was very fortunate. Now, he has a target on his back. Is JPD gonna provide personal protection?
Additional, I hope the doctor moves. I doubt he will be safe in his present location.
All right, get back on the subject of the post.
Which is?
OK, once again, where is the announcement of apprehending the second "thug"? This should not be an Inspector Clouseau or Kojak type case. With the resources the Jackson Police department has I think I could catch #2.
Good question 7:12, I keep waiting on it too. All you need is about 5 minutes of facebook stalking to see who his best "homies" are - Guttalife Momo (who has another page - Freddie Mo), Antwaun Guttalife, Guttalife Cory. My money is on Freddie Mo - who wants to take bets?
Inner city black culture has only gotten more brazen with social media and cell phone interconnectivity. We are at war against the have nots. This was the opening shot.
"They are reporting that this matter will be presented to a grand jury.
That is preposterous.
Not long ago a black man wasted a kid while rummaging through his car. No charges - no grand jury. That kid was unarmed."
- Former prosecutor here.... In my neck of the woods, we would always take a case like this before the grand jury. Not for the purpose of indicting the person who exercised self-defense (unless the facts warranted it) but to exonerate them and give them some peace of mind that they don't face criminal liability. Can't speak for Hinds County DA.
That's no guarantee that the perp's family won't file a wrongful death lawsuit. While a civil suit is no walk in the park, I'd rather get served with a summons and complaint than a capias and indictment.
It's truly amazing to see the filth that is allowed to be posted, while other comments, with no profanity whatsoever get blocked because of their politically incorrect nature.
Glad the doctor is safe. It's too bad the 2nd thug is still wasting oxygen.
I was told the submission to the grand jury is standard procedure. I've seen it before. Nothing will come of it.
Yep, My money is also on Freddie Mo.
Fish, What difference does it make in your story what color/race of the victim? "They just saw an older white guy"
Are you just pointing out the race of the parties involved as if that is a point.
10:26 -- To a criminal, an older white guy seems more likely to have money than an older black guy. That's why the crooks went to NE Jackson in the first place.
Sorry if reality isn't PC enough for you.
Cops are not the only ones who profile. Criminanls do as well.
Fish,
So you are saying Black criminals "profile" White Old Men rather than Black Old Men?
How do you know these things?
"- Former prosecutor here.... In my neck of the woods, we would always take a case like this before the grand jury. Not for the purpose of indicting the person who exercised self-defense (unless the facts warranted it) but to exonerate them and give them some peace of mind that they don't face criminal liability. Can't speak for Hinds County DA.
That's no guarantee that the perp's family won't file a wrongful death lawsuit. While a civil suit is no walk in the park, I'd rather get served with a summons and complaint than a capias and indictment."
You missed the point. This will cost the victim about $50,000. No insurance is going to pay for this. He will have to hire Kirksey or someone of his caliber. And this DA does not ALWAYS take these to the grand jury. He can simply not charge the dude. I know it...I've seen him do it.
Meanwhile, the guy in NW Jackson who literally wasted a black youth from his kitchen window to his carport (not even an enclosed garage) who was unarmed....did not have to spend more than the cost of a replacement window on a Cadillac.
That is inherently unfair...no matter if the good doctor has the money or not.
The wrongful death suit, should Ashley file it, would be much easier.....just turn that over to State Farm.
1140: Please to explain how this would be wrongful death? Not an attorney here, but if charged I'd come back against the complaint(s).
One of the perps FB friends, maybe Dee was asking the general to go wildin with him....or wit him.
Corey Nate DaGeneral
May 15 at 12:30pm ·
So dude u mean to tell me u want me to ride for u and die for u, then what the hell u gone do for yoself fool. And then get mad cuz i aint got yo back when u doing stupid shit and know I got kids. Nigga u must be really gay (no shade but all my civilized people think about this for a sec) #dageneral
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It is well known that black criminals target white people. I didn't even know there were people looney enough to question this. It'll get much worse before it gets any better.
As a 20-something black male, I refuse to defend actions that violate the basic golden rule. I won't make any excuses or the actions of these young men- they made bad choices and one of them suffered the ultimate consequence.
With that said, i find it deeply disturbing that folks would think that this behavior is (a) condoned in the black community or (b) representative of a majority of the black community. There are plenty of black Jacksonians that not only uphold the rule of law but also make tireless attempts at early intervention, often neglected.
With that said, I am glad the life of the victim was preserved and I still have hope for the future of our city.
KF - thanks for the update on his criminal record. You said his only arrest was on 5-18-13 and he was released on 5-19-13; however, there is a video he posted on his facebook (also the one you posted) on 9-25-14 that says he just got out of jail. What was that for?
well said 4:21pm.
Hey 4:21
It would be in your best interest to stay the hell away from me and my family. I've had enough.
4:21
Agreed. I'm glad you commented. Thank you.
4:21, there is hope for the future of our city because of you and others like you. One major reason Jackson and other cities are in trouble is due to ignorance and hate. That's the road Dee Robinson chose Saturday. It didn't work for him. Ignorance and hate are choices as is wisdom and love. "I send you forth as sheep amongst wolves. Be wise as the serpent and harmless as doves." Matthew 10:16. 4:21 is right. We can't become the beast in order to defeat the beast or all that is won is beastiality. The hope for Jackson lies in good people uniting, not dividing. Dividing got us here. It hasn't worked. Hate hasn't worked. Ignorance, stupidity, and turning a blind eye hasn't worked. Time to try a new approach. "The world is now too dangerous for anything but truth and too small for anything but love," ~William Sloane Coffin
That doctor that many are speaking of is one of the kindest men I will ever know. I am not on here just acting like I know him. I have known him personally as a friend for many years and his wife. I feel bad that he had to make the decision he made, but who in the world wouldn't try to protect their family. It is sad to me that so many things are centered around the color of the skin. If I were in the same position I would do whatever I could to save my wife and myself and race would not come into play. I'm sure because I do know him as well as I do he is sad that a split action decision had to made. I'm personally glad we have the right to have a gun and would hate to know I was forced into taking a life by protecting my family. The victim is most definitely the doctor and the horror imposed on his wife and him. I'm sorry for the loss of any young man regardless of the color of his skin , but actions come with consequences.
Hey Doc, you forgot the rule that says everybody gets one before anybody gets two :)
I moved from Eastover about two years ago. I lived there 24 years. Just before moving, a woman I know was shot down the street while feeding a neighbor's dog when the neighbor was on vacation. The intruders killed the pet - corner of Eastover and Ridgewood. I am so happy to be out of Jackson. I can't imagine anyone investing in property there. Property values in Eastover were declining last I checked. The city is a sewer. Other neighbors had a home invasion, stolen cars, robberies. The police do nothing. I had a robbery and the police suggested I comb the pawn shops to retrieve my belongings. Jackson went to hell in the 1980's.
The doctor was really lucky. I hope he moves his family somewhere safe. No one should have to live like they're in Jo'burg. I am so sick of thugs. We ought to have "thug season."
Although this had a "good outcome," I am sure this event will color the rest of the victim's life - the anger, the threat to his wife, the crap he will undoubtedly have to go through if these idiots bring some sort of lawsuit, even the indictment.
Wow, sounds like the guy who got nailed shouldn't have threatened the Docs wife and children.
A robbery is bad enough , but when you threaten a man's family, you cross the no mercy line. Too bad he didn't kill the other guy too.
Update:
It turns out that the deceased criminal's cohort was nothing less than a corrections officer! The deceased msn had Face Book postings and Instagram postings that show blatant ties to Gangster Disciples and that the deceased criminal was back and forth between Chicago and Jackdon. The "Star of David" necklace he brazenly displays on Face Book is a recognized symbol of the Gangster Disciples and refers to their founder, David Barksdale (born in Sallis, MS), whom they called "King David". That "Star of David" certainly did not imply that this thug was Jewish!
Jackson and surrounding areas had better realize that gangs and their criminal ways and intentions have moved here to stay. Be prepared or be a victim!
Anonymous MD
@ 4:21
Thank you for posting, and I completely agree with you.
So much hate, fear and ignorance. So sad for all parties involved.
As a veteran of the First Infantry Division, I never met a fellow soldier who felt good about killing a man.
Appeal to Authority FALLACY.
No, he was speaking from experience and something that I have heard from most combat vets I know.
Kingfish, thank you for such a kind and dignified response. I didn't have the courage to back up my brother from the 1st ID in May. I will now. Killing a man, and especially, enjoying it is not normal. If you say it is or that you've got some kind of taste for it, you're a stone cold sociopath. I was at Fallujah and Ramadi with the 82nd and Kandahar and Hemland with the 5th and 1st. I never liked it. Never got used to it. Still have night terrors about shots I TOOK, shit I DID.
Again, thanks for your kind response and our courage, Kingfish. You ain't a bad guy.
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