Jackson Jambalaya

It's got to be Jackson's fault. Still working on why.

"Over the years"? Lived in Madison for thirty years. Never heard of it. Was it a Chinese place?

I guess we all have different tastes and buds lol. It wasn't Rodney Scott by any means but the brisket and ribs were always good tasty and tender when I've had them. The catfish was above average but I adnit it was a hit and miss dish. Rarely went in mostly drive through. The veggie sides were always on point especially the greens. The chow chow was mid though.

Re: above remarks about "tough ribs". Ribs need to cook low and slow to break down connective tissue, until bones poke beyond the meat. After sufficient hours, slabs can be finished in the oven, checking internal temperature often, then wrapped tightly in foil, placed in an insulated air temp cooler to finish to final ecstasy.
If ribs are cooked hastily at high temps, the meat is tough.

If you’re going to try and sell franchise BBQ you got to make it better than the guy at the gas station with the home made smoker and they didn’t.

who fucks up ribs? even walmart and kroger can make good ribs.
was this place run by yankees who didnt eat the food they cook?

Hickory Pit in Jackson might want to take notice. I used to eat there all the time but their BBQ is also average at best. Don't take my word for it - go try some for yourself.

Pro Tip: attempt to be pleasant and don’t act like we are bothering you by coming to give you business. There is a reason the line is two columns at Chick Fil A. Automation replaces the need for you soon anyway.

That's not a BBQ joint. That's a bank. Or is it a gas station? Oh wait, its a liquor store. Never mind, it's Madison, the City.

Old Timers BBQ in Richland had the best pork sandwiches and scrumptious greasy fries. Now its gone.
Leatha’s in Foxworth/Hattiesburg/Petal had the absolute best pork ribs ANYWHERE, not just MS. Now they are gone.
Robert St. John or some other enterprising restaurateur needs to talk to their heirs and learn their methods and make us all happy again.

Maybe don’t put a BBQ restaurant in one of your bastardized neo-colonial buildings. Fake doesn’t mix with BBQ. The original location in birmingham is a winner.

10:44 - Post of the century.

That porch thing on the front, is really gross and ugly. The canopy design is clunky and repulsive, plus the DEPRESSION ERA BRICK STUMPS, holding up tiny, sawed-off columns, is NOT MADISON. It looks Redneck Mawmaw from Corinth (pron: KAW-wryiiiiinth)

In fact, the whole faux-patriotic canned mythos premise is Redneck/Bubba/Bro, and not a fit for Madison. The giant flag is tacky (and constitutes Desecration of the Flag, if you ask me: exploiting a sacred symbol for commercial purposes: and you can bet they didn't observe Flag Etiquette). On the bright side, once that grotesque mess on the front is torn off, the building has good bones, and will be easily repurposed.

Corinthian columns on a BBQ joint ... "just ain't right".

Good BBQ needs no sauce…

Old Timers was the best brisket plate anywhere, and that includes TEXAS. IMHO of course. Was sick when the new 6-8 lane Hwy 49 ate it up.

The column capitals more or less ape "Composite Order", a combination of Ionic and Corinthian, just to be technical.

Madison mooned them.

You just need to take one look at that building and you KNOW their food costs are inflated due to the RENTS TOO DAMN HIGH!

Place was good. At least the food.

Over time new employees were hired. They had a f’in attitude. Never went back.

Having Rob Jay hosting a weekly radio show there didn’t help.

google reviews funny as hell

Madison does its best to AVOID 'Neo-Colonial'. The city's stylistic range is 'Turn-of-the-Century Neoclassical (pre-war downtowns, all over America)', 'American Italianate', 'French Provencale', 'Old-town Stockholm', 'Paris 1900', 'Victorian Gothic', and 'Italian Mannerist'.

'Dinky Williamsburg' is not on the list.

WE got the memo. OUR architects understood it. Why is all of this so difficult for YOU? Maybe you should stay in Jackson, where you belong? Virtually all of Belhaven, Fondren, and Woodland Hills, by the way, are "Bastardized Neo-Colonial" - 'The Fairview Inn' - a copy of Mount Vernon, being a glorious example.

You sound like an very-old lady, schooled in avoiding "False Colonial" (DAR-eligible housewives were cautioned, in the 1960s, to only choose the "Good Colonial" - the true, Holy Grail Colonial Williamsburg - not the "bad, bastardized kind").

Hopefully, you understand that there is a difference between 'Neo-Colonial' and 'Neoclassical'. 'Neo-Colonial' came about, when not-very-American elements (and other insecure new money) sought to copy America's ("extremely ugly", as per Ogden Codman, whose family were Colonial aristocrats who built plenty of ugly Colonial structures), in order to pass themselves off as Old Money Americans.

Jackson's big Carpetbagger/Gold Coast Bootlegger/Brothelkeeper families, naturally, chose "Licensed Williamsburg Reproductions" - as sold by 'Warren Wright's House of Ideas', and, later, by now-deceased designer Jim Westerfield: the Carpetbagger Dynasties' ultimate authority on all things tastefully Neo-colonial-and-not-bastardized.

There was much recent outcry, after somebody stuck "a Leave-it-to-Beaver '50s Colonial picket fence" onto Madison's treasured Victorian Gothic Montgomery House. Clueless people abound, and sometimes they get away with things, before they can be stopped.

One of OUR Architect's drafting staff did something 'Neo-Colonial' for our development in Madison. But it was caught by the City, and he was fired by his boss, and I was not charged for the redesign, and I, personally, rented that hapless drafting architect a van, so he could move to another state where people don't know any better. I think he's doing HUD-compliant apartment communities in Connecticut, now.

Maybe someone could take up a collection, to help YOU move?

That place looks just right for a dental; veneers location.

Or a pastic surgeon who sells those implants!

Krusatyr, you apparently tried the wrong slab of ribs. Slow is good, but open flame ribs cooked and seared properly can not be challenged by a tender Smokey piece of pork.

Hickory Pit had been the same for at least 40 years. Their pulled pork is above average. The fries are 💯. The main difference is, Hickory Pit doesn’t have a mortgage and Full Moon had to cook enough to cover $15k a month for the real estate.

If you live in Madison and don’t know where Full Moon is, you must be blind. Whether you’ve stopped by or not.

Jackson opened Little Effie, Le Pressa, Louise, Masa Mesa, Emerson Provisions…no wonder people are leaving Madison. Not to mention, there are trees in Jackson

Too much money on front end to ever make it back. Good news is that the real estate is worth a good bit.

The BBQ sauce is pure Alabama along with the slice of white bread. That flies east of here but not in MS it seems.

Pig and Pint do it right every time imo.

I always enjoyed the pulled pork and the sides. We used to eat at some of this chain's other locations in Birmingham and Tuscaloosa and the food was consistent across all of them. The service had gotten slow over time here, bur was still worth the wait. I for one, will miss this place.

Derek Emerson is a beast.

Thank you for reminding me that Hickory Pit exists. It’s been years. I’m going to check it out.

"Thurssss's uh FULL MOON, an' we'rrrrrrr gonna HOWL!" (my assumption of the underlying concept/premise for the franchise, complete with Redneck Bro hard-'R' sounds, like in the truck commercials).

Apparently, some sleazy little MBA, from a third-rate school, came up with the CYNICAL premise/storyline/insta-mythos for the establishment. Everything's calibrated to appeal to extremely manhood-insecure menfolks.

That sort of establishment would be a fine addition, north-of-Canton, or over by the Nissan Plant, or in Richland, or in Byram, or over by some casino, somewhere. But why would anybody try to stick such a place in MADISON? Lately, Madison's become Tesla/Lexus/Lamborghini/Maybach/Bentley country - and getting moreso by the minute. The Tesla crowd counts carbs, and doesn't eat meats candied under layers of sugary sauce.

One of the best restaurants in the metro is Frisco Deli in Pearl, but the location they opened in Madison County fell flat on its face. Restaurants are a crap shoot, especially taking into account how fickle customers’ tastes can be in different areas.

I'll tell you exactly why it caused. After my 2nd trip (giving them a 2nd chance), the food was so-so but the staff could NOT get an order correct and was rude. Never darted the door again after the 2nd trip and vowing not to return. Lots of people like me did the same I'm sure. It didn’t close down in Madison due to lack of opportunity. Love it when. The Madison haters say to stay out. Keeps us buzzing right along.

@2:56 but that kind of awesome Jackson news does NOT get posted on this site! Only big hooplah when Arby’s closes!

@4:15 it’s still good. Not Terry Black’s of course but a classic BBQ place.

@3:05 Truth. Alabama White is putrid mayonnaise. Belongs nowhere near BBQ.

Well, the architectural lessons have been entertaining.

But when it comes to the best BBQ in the Jackson area ...I vote for the old pyramid BBQ on Robinson off West Capitol St. (a couple of blocks down from the Masonic Lodge).

All of y’all are missing out if you aren’t eating Sacred Ground in Pochahontas (Jackson). Best BBQ in the state and a really cool place. Rivals most places in Texas (and it’s locally owned).

Madison was the only Full Moon location outside Alabama. Probably just became too expensive to actively supervise from B'ham.

Tried it one time when Hickory Pit was closed. Ribs were tougher than shoe leather. Vinegar slaw is awful. Never went back. Dickies has it beat by a mile and I think all their stuff comes in precooked.

FWIW IMHO - I hate to see a restaurant go under - it's a tough business. But, if the BBQ is great, no one cares what kind of building it's served from - backyards to gas stations to a repurposed bank building. But, you should have to apply your teeth to remove the meat from BBQ ribs, but not gnaw it off the bone because it's undercooked. Besides mine, I've had some pretty darn good ribs at Sacred Ground (Hwy 49 N) and Smokehouse (471 & 25). I've heard Kenova is good too, but haven't had the pleasure, yet.

The long time owner of Hickory Pitt sold in 2023.

https://www.visitjackson.com/directory/hickory-pit-jxn/

WJTV has some restaurants, including Hickory Pitt, listed that are offering two $25 coupons for $25 while supplies last.

https://www.wjtvbeourguest.com/

BBQ ain't my thang, and I'm no commie...sorry for them, hope something I can support goes there...once there was a great mediterranean restaurant by Kroger across 55...that'd make me happy...

Chef Salad selection was excellent and well done. Sorry to see it go.

Speaking of Pochahontas, Big D's was pretty damn good back in the day.

Rudolph Griffins in Cleveland had great BBQ back in the day

Krusatyr is clearly smarter than the rest of us. It would be great if he/she could post some instructional messages on how we could all improve our lives. Either that or shut the hell up.

Bbq places around here can’t stomach running out of smoked meats so they overcook and reheat the meats leading to subpar experiences. For the life of me, I don’t understand why the owners don’t get that it’s okay to run out of meat. Folks understand that briskets and Boston butts take half a day to cook.

When I posted that their BBQ is excellent, I was just ribbing y'all. Carry on.

They need a Mission BBQ, extra extra patriotic, they play the National Anthem at noon and everyone is standing, even while you’re eating you gotta stop and stand. It’ll keep the commies and blue cult away. No military discount though. They even have old 6x6’s with smokers on the back.

2:13 pm As someone who actually grew up in one of the original colonies and whose family actually fought in the Revolution and whose family still lives in the original home we've maintained since before the Revolution, you don't know what you are talking about. I also lived in Madison when the Montgomery house and a few shops were the only thing with a very few old houses on the other side of the school, one of which was a restaurant. There are no authentic colonial homes in MS because it wasn't a colony, but the Montgomery house would qualify in style and I was often invited there. The others in old Madison had more of a Victorian influence (not style). There are, however, some very well-done colonial style houses and the Montgomery house would qualify as a one story. There were one story farm style houses in the colonies with the second story added later as well as wings. The colonies weren't all in Williamsburg, VA and the styles varied along with the climate and local building materials. You'll find original stone houses and brick houses and wood plank or log houses in the colonies. I've been in all the colonies and have friends I visited with in ALL the colonies. ALL my family in my generation, included those we married were in a colony before our Revolution. I even know where the pre-civil war homes are in MS. but again, MS wasn't a colony. And, there are some very well done reproduction colonial homes in Jackson and Madison. I know people who live in them one is near Highland Village but almost impossible to see if you don't know where to look!

That space is amazing but the rack of ribs I got with the glaze? That’s the stickiest gunk I’ve ever had to try to wash off. It required dawn and the ribs themselves? The meat did not fall off the bone and it was kind of chewy. Potato salad is on point a the sauces are good. I’ll go back and see if that was an anomaly

Spot on

BBQ restaurants are easy to start since the menu is more limited, But that means the competition is pretty tough. How BBQ is cooked, the sauce as well as the " sides" are very regional . Mississippi's is far more like Texas BBQ than what you find in the eastern states.

E &L bbq is pretty good stuff if your life insurance is paid up or if you have stage 9 cancer and don’t mind a shank with your shank

The Full Moon’s in Alabama do well. I always forgot we had one locally. Those dipped cookies!!!!

I think I recognize the Beta Cuck at 4:33, but his ID is secret with me.

"Insulated air-temp cooler"? Do them things come in Styrofoam down to Dollah-Gentral?

Sweet Daddy's isn't the same as you can tell it's gone corporate. Ribs are still fine but the sammiches that were so delicious, well, Bluesky raised the price and cut back on the meat in the sammich. Paying for a bunch of bread now. Last two times the Brisket sammich was terrible because it had a bunch of burnt brisket ends.

Learn to spell Pocahontas. And it is NOT Jackson!

I try to never return to any "eatin' place" that gets their sides from a Cisco truck. If you ever see one of those trucks at any eatery, keep rollin'!

Same for any joint that gives you one paper napkin and a slice of white bread. WTF?

Until or unless Mayor Mary either wakes up or dies in office, places of charm will never be allowed to locate in The City Not For Sale.

Imagine the crowd that would show up day and night 365 at a place like these:

https://www.tallahatchieflats.com/welcome.html

Really? You make a call on a restaurant judging by how the building looks?

@9:43am learn your geography. Sacred Ground has a JACKSON address, because Pocahontas is practically a village. Barely exists. Why must people nit-pick the stupidest shit?

Who knew a franchise BBQ joint closing would lead to the world’s greatest architecture debate?

@9:43am it would seem the only resident in Pocahontas has taken some serious offense. What’s it like out there? Do you have water? Wi-Fi? Are you boldly declaring independence from Jackson? Has Sen. Elizabeth Warren ever visited you?

@8:52am get beef. Get the brisket platter, brisket melt (chimichurri, brisket, cheese, onions, yum) or the beef rib. Outstanding. Pork is always hit or miss at BBQ restaurants (and in general is a F-tier meat). Eat beef!

You gotta sell alot of damn bbq to cover the overhead on a location and building like that.

There are plenty of places for stumblebum losers, within minutes of Madison - places as nothing as you are - where you can get your mouth down level with the plate, and just shovel-in the Southern Slop - grunting while chewing with your mouth open, and being as disgusting as you want to be. There are more than enough "places with charm" (if by "charm", you mean REVERSE SNOBBERY).

Speaking as someone whose last Mississippi home was in Madison, I can say that actual residents do not want "crowds" - especially crowds of CONFORMISTS - conforming to lowdown hangdog garbage like what you're advocating.

" As someone who actually grew up in one of the original colonies and whose family actually fought in the Revolution and whose family still lives in the original home we've maintained since before the Revolution, you don't know what you are talking about."

2:13 here. I didn't grow up in one of the original colonies, and my family didn't fight in the Revolution. And why would MY family live in the family home YOU'VE maintained since before the Revolution? Please review your sentence which I've quoted, and see if that's what you actually intended to say.

@11:12am them two paragraphs you typed out there is some real loser talk. I like to think we are a better class of losers here. Not sure where you moved (must be Nantucket or Bar Harbor, the only places without slop food for losers, right?) but just don’t worry about commenting on this site anymore. Thanks!

Never knew Madison had a Full Moon. Not sure what happened to the food in Mississippi but the one in Alabama is awesome. Much better than having to stop at fast food when we travel. The staffing, service and food has hurt so many fast food restaurants that we no longer stop. We had started packing our lunch and pick nicking. I even map
out their locations in Alabama so we have a good place to eat as we travel.

The food was shit

I agree, Kingfish. When Sweet Daddy's was cooking in the parking lot, his ribs were amazing. Got them all the time. It changed when he went inside.

Theres another place, its next to the gas station at that same intersection where the furniture store was. Little place, you'll see wood stacked up outside for the smokers. The ribs are great. Good barbq too. Really nice folks there too. I can't think of the name.

I still like Hickory Pitt too. Good pulled pork and great sauce.

I remember that little pissant from 1965, strutting around in his apron with his butcher knife threatening to cut boys' hair. One time he threatened to cut the hair of two of my younger friends. I took up for them and asked him to go with me to the median out on highway 61. Rudolph asked me if I thought he ought to call my daddy. I told him, "Yes, please call him. He ain't never seen me take a butcher knife away from a man and whip his ass!" He was a punk and a bully.

His BBQ could not compare to that of Kilpatrick's Pig Stand in Belzoni.

Has anyone check on that Micha Goober Mr. Madison. This would be a hot topic for him to be posting.