It was a dark day outside in Jackson as storm clouds gathered today inside Judge Tomie Green's courtroom. Dark was the weather, dark was the demeanor of the attorneys, dark were the suits. Two sides sparring in opposing motions, one seeking the testimony of a material witness and the other using every trick possible to frustrate the prosecution.
A young Patrick Beasley, the attorney for the State, is alone in the courtroom. No clerks or paralegals sit by the former MBN agent, only the cold spirit of Justice is at his side, but justice is often like that: a lonely battle for those who serve her cause. Facing Mr. Beasley is the Irby horde: Joe Holloman (Mrs. Irby's attorney), Lisa Binder (representing Mr. Irby), and their two goons (private investigators) wearing their Goodfellas suits: Charley and Will (a former JPD cop with Rudi Warnock-like hair). Mrs. Irby was not in the courtroom as Holloman told the court she waived her right to be present. The media is on hand. A golden Marsha Thompson is the lady of the Court as both WLBT and WAPT have cameras present, while local blogger Matt Eichelberger sits on the last row.
Ms. Binder sits at counsel's table with Mr. Holloman. Judge Green sets the tone early, ordering her to move to the front row of the audience. Judge Green is in command of the courtroom as she repeatedly takes control of the hearing. Ms. Binder attempts to state what the issues of the case are but gets no further as Judge Green cuts her off, asking her to provide a medical statement showing why Mr. Irby cannot testify. The Judge reminds the esteemed counsel Mr. Irby is a witness, thus implying there is a need for his testimony. Ms. Binder is caught off-guard, telling the Court she has no written statement to provide but states a Dr. Clea Evans (a "neuropsychologist") is available for testimony if needed today. This correspondent was baffled by the lawyer's failure to bring such statements to court as her client's medical condition was a major point of contention between the parties.
Judge Green decreed Mr. Irby should be available to the prosecution for a thirty-minute interview on September 16, 2009 and gives Ms. Binder the rest of the month to provide a written medical statement stating why Mr. Irby cannot give the interview or any limitations that should be placed on the interview. Binder instantly claims that date will not work as she has to be somewhere else but Green is having none of it, reminding the lawyer the Court is working off of the dates she said she was available. Ms. Binder goes to her corner, gets her Blackberry, and suddenly discovers it was October 16 that had a conflict. The interview is thus placed on the calendar.
Judge Green is not finished as she addresses the standing issue raised by Mr. Beasley. The Court tells Ms. Binder she can "be present at interview, but may not participate" - she can give no advice nor make any objections during the interview although Mr. Holloman can participate as Mrs. Irby's counsel.
Binder struggles on, trying to tag the prosecution with something as Foreman's blows merely slide off of Ali. Binder claims Mississippi case law (and states there are "sister cases in this very courthouse") that allow a witness to refuse to testify. Green calls her bluff and asks her to name a Mississippi Supreme Court case on this issue. Binder continues to look unprepared as she is unable to cite such a case. Binder tries again but Green parries her arguments as she keeps asking counsel for Mississippi case law, something Ms. Binder does not provide. Undaunted, Ms. Binder shuffles forward, still trying to hit her opponent with something. She raises the issue of the state subpoenaing Mr. Irby's medical records after the Grand Jury proceeding. Green shrugs it off, reminding counsel "the state needs medical records for proving the charge of aggravated assault" and makes it clear the prosecution will be given access to the medical records of Stuart M. Irby, Sr. if it determines they are needed to prosecute the case against Karen Irby. Beasley has been quiet so far as Binder continues to spar with Judge Green.
Green then states she is laying "ground rules for the case". Green invokes Rule 9.01, the infamous "gag order" in an effort to limit pretrial publicity and says the Court will "strictly enforce that rule." She also orders both sides to submit all motions to her and that she must approve each one before it can appear in the open file with the Circuit Clerk. Judge Green then invokes Rule 9.08 and decrees an "Ominbus hearing" will be held on February 15, 2010, for the adjudication of all pretrial issues. Green shows every intention of trying this case in March and made it quite clear she is in charge. A quietly satisfied Beasley leaves the courtroom, winning a round in what promises to be a hard fought legal battle while the defense teams wears their iron masks.
Wednesday, August 5, 2009
Green Orders Irby to Submit to Interview, Imposes Gag Order, Announces February "Omnibus Hearing"
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Trollfest '07 was such a success that Jackson Jambalaya will once again host Trollfest '09. Catch this great event which will leave NE Jackson & Fondren in flames. Othor Cain and his band, The Black Power Structure headline the night while Sonjay Poontang returns for an encore performance. Former Frank Melton bodyguard Marcus Wright makes his premier appearance at Trollfest singing "I'm a Sweet Transvestite" from "The Rocky Horror Picture Show." Kamikaze will sing his new hit, “How I sold out to da Man.” Robbie Bell again performs: “Mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be Bells” and “Any friend of Ed Peters is a friend of mine”. After the show, Ms. Bell will autograph copies of her mug shot photos. In a salute to “Dancing with the Stars”, Ms. Bell and Hinds County District Attorney Robert Smith will dance the Wango Tango.
Wrestling returns, except this time it will be a Battle Royal with Othor Cain, Ben Allen, Kim Wade, Haley Fisackerly, Alan Lange, and “Big Cat” Donna Ladd all in the ring at the same time. The Battle Royal will be in a steel cage, no time limit, no referee, and the losers must leave town. Marshand Crisler will be the honorary referee (as it gives him a title without actually having to do anything).
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Donna Ladd of The Jackson Free Press will give several classes on learning how to write. Smearing, writing without factchecking, and reporting only one side of a story will be covered. A donation to pay their taxes will be accepted and she will be signing copies of their former federal tax liens. Ms. Ladd will give a dramatic reading of her two award-winning essays (They received The Jackson Free Press "Best Of" awards.) "Why everything is always about me" and "Why I cover murders better than anyone else in Jackson".
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Relax at the Fox News Tent. Since there are only three blonde reporters in Jackson (being blonde is a requirement for working at Fox News), Megan and Kathryn from WAPT and Wendy from WLBT will be on loan to Fox. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both and a torn-up Obama yard sign will entitle you to free drinks served by Megan, Wendy, and Kathryn. Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required. Just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '09 is for EVERYONE!!!
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Wrestling returns, except this time it will be a Battle Royal with Othor Cain, Ben Allen, Kim Wade, Haley Fisackerly, Alan Lange, and “Big Cat” Donna Ladd all in the ring at the same time. The Battle Royal will be in a steel cage, no time limit, no referee, and the losers must leave town. Marshand Crisler will be the honorary referee (as it gives him a title without actually having to do anything).
Meet KIM Waaaaaade at the Entergy Tent. For five pesos, Kim will sell you a chance to win a deed to a crack house on Ridgeway Street stuffed in the Howard Industries pinata. Don't worry if the pinata is beaten to shreds, as Mr. Wade has Jose, Emmanuel, and Carlos, all illegal immigrants, available as replacements for the it. Upon leaving the Entergy tent, fig leaves will be available in case Entergy literally takes everything you have as part of its Trollfest ticket price adjustment charge.
Donna Ladd of The Jackson Free Press will give several classes on learning how to write. Smearing, writing without factchecking, and reporting only one side of a story will be covered. A donation to pay their taxes will be accepted and she will be signing copies of their former federal tax liens. Ms. Ladd will give a dramatic reading of her two award-winning essays (They received The Jackson Free Press "Best Of" awards.) "Why everything is always about me" and "Why I cover murders better than anyone else in Jackson".
In the spirit of helping those who are less fortunate, Trollfest '09 adopts a cause for which a portion of the proceeds and donations will be donated: Keeping Frank Melton in his home. The “Keep Frank Melton From Being Homeless” booth will sell chances for five dollars to pin the tail on the jackass. John Reeves has graciously volunteered to be the jackass for this honorable excursion into saving Frank's ass. What's an ass between two friends after all? If Mr. Reeves is unable to um, perform, Speaker Billy McCoy has also volunteered as when the word “jackass” was mentioned he immediately ran as fast as he could to sign up.
In order to help clean up the legal profession, Adam Kilgore of the Mississippi Bar will be giving away free, round-trip plane tickets to the North Pole where they keep their bar complaint forms (which are NOT available online). If you don't want to go to the North Pole, you can enjoy Brant Brantley's (of the Mississippi Commission on Judicial Performance) free guided tours of the quicksand field over by High Street where all complaints against judges disappear. If for some reason you are unable to control yourself, never fear; Judge Houston Patton will operate his jail where no lawyers are needed or allowed as you just sit there for minutes... hours.... months...years until he decides he is tired of you sitting in his jail. Do not think Judge Patton is a bad judge however as he plans to serve free Mad Dog 20/20 to all inmates.
Trollfest '09 is a pet-friendly event as well. Feel free to bring your dog with you and do not worry if your pet gets hungry, as employees of the Jackson Zoo will be on hand to provide some of their animals as food when it gets to be feeding time for your little loved one.
Relax at the Fox News Tent. Since there are only three blonde reporters in Jackson (being blonde is a requirement for working at Fox News), Megan and Kathryn from WAPT and Wendy from WLBT will be on loan to Fox. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both and a torn-up Obama yard sign will entitle you to free drinks served by Megan, Wendy, and Kathryn. Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required. Just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '09 is for EVERYONE!!!
This is definitely a Beaver production.
Note: Security provided by INS.
Trollfest '07
Jackson Jambalaya is the home of Trollfest '07. Catch this great event which promises to leave NE Jackson & Fondren in flames. Sonjay Poontang and his band headline the night with a special steel cage, no time limit "loser must leave town" bout between Alan Lange and "Big Cat"Donna Ladd following afterwards. Kamikaze will perform his new song F*** Bush, he's still a _____. Did I mention there was no referee? Dr. Heddy Matthias and Lori Gregory will face off in the undercard dueling with dangling participles and other um, devices. Robbie Bell will perform Her two latest songs: My Best Friends are in the Media and Mama's, Don't Let Your Babies Grow up to be George Bell. Sid Salter of The Clarion-Ledger will host "Pin the Tail on the Trial Lawyer", sponsored by State Farm.
There will be a hugging booth where in exchange for your young son, Frank Melton will give you a loooong hug. Trollfest will have a dunking booth where Muhammed the terrorist will curse you to Allah as you try to hit a target that will drop him into a vat of pig grease. However, in the true spirit of Separate But Equal, Don Imus and someone from NE Jackson will also sit in the dunking booth for an equal amount of time. Tom Head will give a reading for two hours on why he can't figure out who the hell he is. Cliff Cargill will give lessons with his .80 caliber desert eagle, using Frank Melton photos as targets. Tackleberry will be on hand for an autograph session. KIM Waaaaaade will be passing out free titles and deeds to crackhouses formerly owned by The Wood Street Players.
If you get tired come relax at the Fox News Tent. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both will entitle you to free drinks.Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required, just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '07 is for EVERYONE!!!
This is definitely a Beaver production.
Note: Security provided by INS.
There will be a hugging booth where in exchange for your young son, Frank Melton will give you a loooong hug. Trollfest will have a dunking booth where Muhammed the terrorist will curse you to Allah as you try to hit a target that will drop him into a vat of pig grease. However, in the true spirit of Separate But Equal, Don Imus and someone from NE Jackson will also sit in the dunking booth for an equal amount of time. Tom Head will give a reading for two hours on why he can't figure out who the hell he is. Cliff Cargill will give lessons with his .80 caliber desert eagle, using Frank Melton photos as targets. Tackleberry will be on hand for an autograph session. KIM Waaaaaade will be passing out free titles and deeds to crackhouses formerly owned by The Wood Street Players.
If you get tired come relax at the Fox News Tent. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both will entitle you to free drinks.Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required, just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '07 is for EVERYONE!!!
This is definitely a Beaver production.
Note: Security provided by INS.
43 comments:
WOW Kingfish ! That is some exciting courtroom drama. Great
job reporting.....
Great job reporting - thank you so much!
Judge Green is acting like a judge. Someone check her ID...could be someone else under that robe.
Anticipation....IMO....
Ms. Binder files letter re: SI's health, obviously will state not able to be interviewed.
More than likely will be rejected. Remember, the State already has the med files and pretty much knows his condition and ability to testify.
Ms. Binder files last minute postponement.
It will have to be on behalf of SI b/c Ms. Binder is no longer a party to the case..."be present at interview, but may not participate." Unless matter of life and death, postponement will *hopefully* not occur.
I think the state will have their day with SI on 9/16. It will be interesting to see what happens between now and then.
Got to wonder what is Mr. Holloman is thinking...
And Green did take a pretty firm grasp of the case. Great job your honor. In the spirit of fairness, justice, it is the best thing that could have happened for ALL involved.
If I was Beasley what I would do is conduct the interview in a conference room with a big picture window that provides a view to the outside. Then I would make sure to arrange for a hot buxom babe with ample cleavage to walk back and forth in front of that window while the interview is taking place.
Do that and you'll figure out in a big hurry Stuart's "condition".
Kingfish, you are the best. This article is as good as gets for those of us not at the hearing today. Thank you.
Go Judge Green!
Wow, why read vanilla news when you can have it neopolitan?
obviously VERY detailed notes were taken on your field trip today, Mr. Kingfish.. A+
What about the rule where a person doesn't have to testify against their spouse?
Great writing, Kingfish - thank you. As for Judge Green, she's been given a bad wrap for far too long. Believe the latest uncovering on misjustice among justice may reveal Judge Green to be a hero among those still wearing the robe.
Just tuned into WLBT for the 6pm news. First time I've heard it promo'd as the "Irby Murder Case" in the media.
Alright, here's some home work.
Start with Rule 501....
RULE 501. PRIVILEGES RECOGNIZED ONLY AS PROVIDED
Except as otherwise provided by the United States Constitution, the State Constitution,
by these rules, or by other rules applicable in the courts of this state to which these rules
apply, no person has a privilege to:
(1) Refuse to be a witness;
(2) Refuse to disclose any matter;
(3) Refuse to produce any object or writing; or
(4) Prevent another from being a witness or disclosing any matter or producing any
object or writing
Then jump to Rule 504...
RULE 504. HUSBAND-WIFE PRIVILEGE
(a) Definition. A communication is confidential if it is made privately by any person
to that person’s spouse and is not intended for disclosure to any other person.
(b) General Rule of Privilege. In any proceeding, civil or criminal, a person has a
privilege to prevent that person’s spouse, or former spouse, from testifying as to any
confidential communication between that person and that person’s spouse.
(c) Who May Claim the Privilege. The privilege may be claimed by either spouse in
that spouse’s right or on behalf of the other.
(d) Exceptions. There is no privilege under this rule in civil actions between the
spouses or in a proceeding in which one spouse is charged with a crime against (1) the person
of any minor child or (2) the person or property of (i) the other spouse, (ii) a person residing
in the household of either spouse, or (iii) a third person committed in the course of
committing a crime against any of the persons described in (d)(1), or (2) of this rule.
Finally, here is Rule 601...
RULE 601. GENERAL RULE OF COMPETENCY
Every person is competent to be a witness except as restricted by the following:
(a) In all instances where one spouse is a party litigant the other spouse shall not be
competent as a witness without the consent of both, except as provided in Rule 601(a)(1) or
Rule 601(a)(2):
(1) Husbands and wives may be introduced by each other in all cases, civil or
criminal, and shall be competent witnesses in their own behalf, as against each other,
in all controversies between them;
(2) Either spouse is a competent witness and may be compelled to testify against
the other in any criminal prosecution of either husband or wife for a criminal act against
any child, for contributing to the neglect or delinquency of a child, or desertion or
nonsupport of children under the age of sixteen (16) years, or abandonment of children.
(b) A person appointed by a court as required by state law to make an appraisal in an
eminent domain proceeding for the immediate possession of land shall not be eligible to
testify in the trial of such case, and the report of such court appointed appraiser shall not be
admissible in evidence during such trial.
Someone want to summarize a strategy??? I have one, but instead, put my homework out to the peanut gallery for input.
Me thinks this trial could set precedent.
Kingfish - How come Robbie Bell was not forced to give an interview?
She was a material witness that literally drove away from the murder scene (after spending several hours with Heather's bloody corpse on the her floor) fully aware that her son not only murdered my friend but had an active warrant against him for beating her in June.
But, I guess that would be like prosecuting family.
I bet if they began treating S. Irby as an accomplice they would get somewhere.
Robbie Bell was actually a defendant not a witness. If you read the reports, they say she was mirandarized.
also George Bell, III plead guilty in a very short time frame. Makes you wonder if he plead in such a timely manner just to keep Robbie Bell a/k/a mommy out of jail
George's testimony in court that day was designed to get Robbie off of the hook. The reason the case wrapped up so quickly is the family had a chance at life without parole and did NOT want to see the reports and photos again. From what I know, you can't imagine how bad the photos are, they are that bad.
6:29. Many of us are not lawyers. Just tell us how it is about Stuart Irby being interviewed. His lawyer certainly didn't come up with anything today to keep the judge from ordering Mr. Irby to be available in Sept.
http://www.mslitigationreview.com/
Kingfish, great post. I thought I was reading a chapter in a Grisham novel. Actually, there should be a book based on this case. Fictionalized, of course. Names changed to protect the innocent and the not-so-innocent.
Ok, some of the post was obviously my being colorful. Truth be told, I was somewhat surprised by Ms. Binder's performance. She is a very good lawyer. I've seen her work miracles on cases in the past when she lived her in Jackson. I never thought of her as a criminal lawyer but she might be one after all and I just didn't know it. I want to make one thing clear also after I got an email tonight. I don't have it in for the Irby's nor am I out to get them. I simply have gotten tired of the media getting basic facts wrong. Not fair to families, not fair to Irbys. I've tried to keep things focused on the wreck and things related to it and keep discussion away from exes, past drama, rumors, and other stuff.
Anybody sending you email thinking you are carrying a vendetta simply hasn't read JJ long enough to know the difference.
While everyone is busy giving a group hug over today, consider that a judge just said you have to get permission to file a MOTION. Exactly how, pray tell, does one even create a record for appeal if you can't even file a motion that forces a judge to make a decision on an issue? Do you have any idea how over-the-top a ruling like that is?
The idea of a judge screening motions from being filed is abhorrent and frightening. It may also be illegal.
hmmm...doesn't a judge have some discretion when it comes to frivolous motions...too seldom used but there?
Reviewing motions before they are filed in a case doesn't seem the same as preventing them from being filed.
Truth is some lawyers make a living in trying to "paper" cases so as to make them too expensive to try because judges haven't exercised some of the tools available to them.
It's a way to try to get the prosecution to " deal" and the plantiff to " fold" if you have enough money to pay the legal fees and some of us citizens think it's out of hand.
Citing state code is fine, but unnecessary and trumped, isn't it? Karen is charged with assaulting Stuart so spousal privilege doesn't apply. It should be no different that in a domestic violence case where the police witness the results of domestic abuse and are no longer restricted in action by the abused spouse's unwillingness to file charges and the abuser can't avail themselves of spousal privilege.
It seems like it's being argued that since Stuart was in a coma for what was, at the time, an unknown duration, the legal system was prevented from proceeding to a grand jury indictment until such time as he recovered enough to testify if they ever expected to question him prior to the trial. It's an argument that intent of the law should be ignored as it was never intended to prevent an injured person from being a witness.
Also, that Stuart is a " material witness" doesn't require his testimony to prove. He was in the car. It seems to me those statutes apply and surely precedent has been set elsewhere.
No, she's not just "reviewing" the motions before the are filed. She has to "approve" them before they are on the docket. I can't even imagine how many rules and constitutional violations are probably involved. You have plenty of available remedies for frivolous motions.
Initially, I was a little uneasy about the ruling on motions too. However, I really like the idea after giving it additional thought.
Judge Green is simply requiring the motions to be submitted to her before filing so that she gets to review them before they are put into the open file. With a gag order in place, this gives her a chance to see the wording of motions before they make it to the press.
Why is this important? If you have followed some of the more publicized trials around here recently that have also had gag orders (Melton's trial comes to mind), defense attorneys have been using motion practice to argue their cases in the press. Obviously, this undermines the purpose of the gag order. Knowing that the media will make a story out of every filing, defense attorneys throw in all kinds of statements that are superfluous to the motion in order to get their facts out to the public and, potentially, taint (I mean, "influence") the jury pool. Unfortunately, judges are loathe to impose sanctions on attorneys for this or most other nefarious actions.
It will be interesting to see how Judge Green handles the motions. I can see how a judge could require counsel to reword portions of the motion that are inflammatory without affecting the substance of the motion. However, I am uneasy about a judge exercising editorial privileges over motions. Then again, gag orders are not commonly used and the Jackson defense bar has shown its unwillingness to abide by the spirit of such orders, even if they abide by the letter.
Judge Green's performance yesterday sounded refreshingly competent. With her ruling on motions, I hope she hasn't done something that will constitute a reversible error.
I'm curious about " the doctor's note". It's a bit ambiguous. There are the doctors that treated his head injuries whose opinion would be competent and any number of physicians who could have subsequently seen Stuart for , say, a summer cold.
Will any old doctor's note do?
And, if the prosecuter questions the accuracy because of testimony, say, from those who have interacted with Stuart in the past several weeks, do they have recourse to rebut the doctor's report?
Stuart, does, after all , according to his brother on caringbridge , remember how to speak in a foreign language even if one discounts reports of personal encounters.
Judge Green isn't approving motions, she is merely deciding what will appear in the file. I don't like it and tend to agree with NMC on this issue but I can appreciate the argument for keeping the lawyers from playing their little games.
I interpret Judge Green's decision
as a means to control her court. As was stated eloquently by 8:40 AM, she is preempting
frivolous or time-delay tatics and I applaud her for taking control. Screw the attorneys who have abused the courts in the past because they are the ones who have burdened the process.
Question for you, Learned -
Are you including post-indictment grand jury subpoenas in the category of "most other nefarious actions?"
;-)
The answer to your question as asked is "yes."
Nefarious? Absolutely.
Sanctionable? Probably not, unfortunately. I'd like it to be sanctionable because the practice clearly seems to violate the purpose of the rules.
Learned - Thanks for being evenhanded there.
Boy I hate to pull rank . . . but when non-lawyers start pontificating how it's no problem for a judge to seal and censure a court record . . . wait, it's more than that, the judge decides what goes into it; it's sorta like a layman opining "I don't see a damn thing wrong with open heart surgery under local anethesia only . . . doctors are always hiking up the cost w/ a lot of unnecessary stuff, money tricks ya know."
Since you brought up rank ... how do you feel when lawyers pontificate about non-law stuff as if they are experts?
Damn Fish, how did you know they had PI's there?
Wasn't too hard to figure out. Aside from Holloman and Beasley, only two guys were in the audience wearing suits and sat on the side of the defense. A couple of reporters recognized them. Its not that big of a deal. I was having some fun with them in that post more than anything. Case like this, you hire a PI if you are the defense. Standard operating procdure. Just two guys doing their job.
They probably have you under surveillance KF.
I dont get the analogy of our high ranking anonymous lawyer comparing a non-lawyer observing and discussing the judges decision
to a non-MD suggesting open heart surgery using local anesthesia.
Wasn't it Judge Green who made the decision in the first place ?
So, wouldnt the analogy be more accurate if the chief surgeon decided to perform open heart surgery using only local anesthesia?
and isn't 'pontificate' a big word to use for three libes of half baked thoughts?
....three lines of half-baked thoughts.
I think I was wrong when I described this mess as a "tactical blunder" in the previous story. Based upon the outcome of the hearing, it has now become a full-fledged clusterf#*k.
Both Irbys would be well-advised to hire some real criminal defense lawyers--preferably with no MS ties, before this gets totally out of hand for the defense.
I'd read Norman Mailer's account of the Rumble in the Jungle before I wrote this post. Inspired me a little.
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