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Trollfest '09
Trollfest '07 was such a success that Jackson Jambalaya will once again host Trollfest '09. Catch this great event which will leave NE Jackson & Fondren in flames. Othor Cain and his band, The Black Power Structure headline the night while Sonjay Poontang returns for an encore performance. Former Frank Melton bodyguard Marcus Wright makes his premier appearance at Trollfest singing "I'm a Sweet Transvestite" from "The Rocky Horror Picture Show." Kamikaze will sing his new hit, “How I sold out to da Man.” Robbie Bell again performs: “Mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be Bells” and “Any friend of Ed Peters is a friend of mine”. After the show, Ms. Bell will autograph copies of her mug shot photos. In a salute to “Dancing with the Stars”, Ms. Bell and Hinds County District Attorney Robert Smith will dance the Wango Tango.
Wrestling returns, except this time it will be a Battle Royal with Othor Cain, Ben Allen, Kim Wade, Haley Fisackerly, Alan Lange, and “Big Cat” Donna Ladd all in the ring at the same time. The Battle Royal will be in a steel cage, no time limit, no referee, and the losers must leave town. Marshand Crisler will be the honorary referee (as it gives him a title without actually having to do anything).
Meet KIM Waaaaaade at the Entergy Tent. For five pesos, Kim will sell you a chance to win a deed to a crack house on Ridgeway Street stuffed in the Howard Industries pinata. Don't worry if the pinata is beaten to shreds, as Mr. Wade has Jose, Emmanuel, and Carlos, all illegal immigrants, available as replacements for the it. Upon leaving the Entergy tent, fig leaves will be available in case Entergy literally takes everything you have as part of its Trollfest ticket price adjustment charge.
Donna Ladd of The Jackson Free Press will give several classes on learning how to write. Smearing, writing without factchecking, and reporting only one side of a story will be covered. A donation to pay their taxes will be accepted and she will be signing copies of their former federal tax liens. Ms. Ladd will give a dramatic reading of her two award-winning essays (They received The Jackson Free Press "Best Of" awards.) "Why everything is always about me" and "Why I cover murders better than anyone else in Jackson".
In the spirit of helping those who are less fortunate, Trollfest '09 adopts a cause for which a portion of the proceeds and donations will be donated: Keeping Frank Melton in his home. The “Keep Frank Melton From Being Homeless” booth will sell chances for five dollars to pin the tail on the jackass. John Reeves has graciously volunteered to be the jackass for this honorable excursion into saving Frank's ass. What's an ass between two friends after all? If Mr. Reeves is unable to um, perform, Speaker Billy McCoy has also volunteered as when the word “jackass” was mentioned he immediately ran as fast as he could to sign up.
In order to help clean up the legal profession, Adam Kilgore of the Mississippi Bar will be giving away free, round-trip plane tickets to the North Pole where they keep their bar complaint forms (which are NOT available online). If you don't want to go to the North Pole, you can enjoy Brant Brantley's (of the Mississippi Commission on Judicial Performance) free guided tours of the quicksand field over by High Street where all complaints against judges disappear. If for some reason you are unable to control yourself, never fear; Judge Houston Patton will operate his jail where no lawyers are needed or allowed as you just sit there for minutes... hours.... months...years until he decides he is tired of you sitting in his jail. Do not think Judge Patton is a bad judge however as he plans to serve free Mad Dog 20/20 to all inmates.
Trollfest '09 is a pet-friendly event as well. Feel free to bring your dog with you and do not worry if your pet gets hungry, as employees of the Jackson Zoo will be on hand to provide some of their animals as food when it gets to be feeding time for your little loved one.
Relax at the Fox News Tent. Since there are only three blonde reporters in Jackson (being blonde is a requirement for working at Fox News), Megan and Kathryn from WAPT and Wendy from WLBT will be on loan to Fox. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both and a torn-up Obama yard sign will entitle you to free drinks served by Megan, Wendy, and Kathryn. Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required. Just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '09 is for EVERYONE!!!
This is definitely a Beaver production.
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Wrestling returns, except this time it will be a Battle Royal with Othor Cain, Ben Allen, Kim Wade, Haley Fisackerly, Alan Lange, and “Big Cat” Donna Ladd all in the ring at the same time. The Battle Royal will be in a steel cage, no time limit, no referee, and the losers must leave town. Marshand Crisler will be the honorary referee (as it gives him a title without actually having to do anything).
Meet KIM Waaaaaade at the Entergy Tent. For five pesos, Kim will sell you a chance to win a deed to a crack house on Ridgeway Street stuffed in the Howard Industries pinata. Don't worry if the pinata is beaten to shreds, as Mr. Wade has Jose, Emmanuel, and Carlos, all illegal immigrants, available as replacements for the it. Upon leaving the Entergy tent, fig leaves will be available in case Entergy literally takes everything you have as part of its Trollfest ticket price adjustment charge.
Donna Ladd of The Jackson Free Press will give several classes on learning how to write. Smearing, writing without factchecking, and reporting only one side of a story will be covered. A donation to pay their taxes will be accepted and she will be signing copies of their former federal tax liens. Ms. Ladd will give a dramatic reading of her two award-winning essays (They received The Jackson Free Press "Best Of" awards.) "Why everything is always about me" and "Why I cover murders better than anyone else in Jackson".
In the spirit of helping those who are less fortunate, Trollfest '09 adopts a cause for which a portion of the proceeds and donations will be donated: Keeping Frank Melton in his home. The “Keep Frank Melton From Being Homeless” booth will sell chances for five dollars to pin the tail on the jackass. John Reeves has graciously volunteered to be the jackass for this honorable excursion into saving Frank's ass. What's an ass between two friends after all? If Mr. Reeves is unable to um, perform, Speaker Billy McCoy has also volunteered as when the word “jackass” was mentioned he immediately ran as fast as he could to sign up.
In order to help clean up the legal profession, Adam Kilgore of the Mississippi Bar will be giving away free, round-trip plane tickets to the North Pole where they keep their bar complaint forms (which are NOT available online). If you don't want to go to the North Pole, you can enjoy Brant Brantley's (of the Mississippi Commission on Judicial Performance) free guided tours of the quicksand field over by High Street where all complaints against judges disappear. If for some reason you are unable to control yourself, never fear; Judge Houston Patton will operate his jail where no lawyers are needed or allowed as you just sit there for minutes... hours.... months...years until he decides he is tired of you sitting in his jail. Do not think Judge Patton is a bad judge however as he plans to serve free Mad Dog 20/20 to all inmates.
Trollfest '09 is a pet-friendly event as well. Feel free to bring your dog with you and do not worry if your pet gets hungry, as employees of the Jackson Zoo will be on hand to provide some of their animals as food when it gets to be feeding time for your little loved one.
Relax at the Fox News Tent. Since there are only three blonde reporters in Jackson (being blonde is a requirement for working at Fox News), Megan and Kathryn from WAPT and Wendy from WLBT will be on loan to Fox. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both and a torn-up Obama yard sign will entitle you to free drinks served by Megan, Wendy, and Kathryn. Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required. Just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '09 is for EVERYONE!!!
This is definitely a Beaver production.
Note: Security provided by INS.
Trollfest '07
Jackson Jambalaya is the home of Trollfest '07. Catch this great event which promises to leave NE Jackson & Fondren in flames. Sonjay Poontang and his band headline the night with a special steel cage, no time limit "loser must leave town" bout between Alan Lange and "Big Cat"Donna Ladd following afterwards. Kamikaze will perform his new song F*** Bush, he's still a _____. Did I mention there was no referee? Dr. Heddy Matthias and Lori Gregory will face off in the undercard dueling with dangling participles and other um, devices. Robbie Bell will perform Her two latest songs: My Best Friends are in the Media and Mama's, Don't Let Your Babies Grow up to be George Bell. Sid Salter of The Clarion-Ledger will host "Pin the Tail on the Trial Lawyer", sponsored by State Farm.
There will be a hugging booth where in exchange for your young son, Frank Melton will give you a loooong hug. Trollfest will have a dunking booth where Muhammed the terrorist will curse you to Allah as you try to hit a target that will drop him into a vat of pig grease. However, in the true spirit of Separate But Equal, Don Imus and someone from NE Jackson will also sit in the dunking booth for an equal amount of time. Tom Head will give a reading for two hours on why he can't figure out who the hell he is. Cliff Cargill will give lessons with his .80 caliber desert eagle, using Frank Melton photos as targets. Tackleberry will be on hand for an autograph session. KIM Waaaaaade will be passing out free titles and deeds to crackhouses formerly owned by The Wood Street Players.
If you get tired come relax at the Fox News Tent. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both will entitle you to free drinks.Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required, just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '07 is for EVERYONE!!!
This is definitely a Beaver production.
Note: Security provided by INS.
There will be a hugging booth where in exchange for your young son, Frank Melton will give you a loooong hug. Trollfest will have a dunking booth where Muhammed the terrorist will curse you to Allah as you try to hit a target that will drop him into a vat of pig grease. However, in the true spirit of Separate But Equal, Don Imus and someone from NE Jackson will also sit in the dunking booth for an equal amount of time. Tom Head will give a reading for two hours on why he can't figure out who the hell he is. Cliff Cargill will give lessons with his .80 caliber desert eagle, using Frank Melton photos as targets. Tackleberry will be on hand for an autograph session. KIM Waaaaaade will be passing out free titles and deeds to crackhouses formerly owned by The Wood Street Players.
If you get tired come relax at the Fox News Tent. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both will entitle you to free drinks.Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required, just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '07 is for EVERYONE!!!
This is definitely a Beaver production.
Note: Security provided by INS.
40 comments:
Money well spent-
I guess you get what you pay for. It sounds like a lot, but a burger at Walkon's is $12.00 now. In looking at his boll I am reminded he has Destin Condo and BMW payments to make just like we do. You don't? That's funny, I don't either.
Oh well maybe we got into the wrong bidness....
Sounds reasonable. I have submitted many similar invoices to the State of Mississippi and they are always paid within 15 days. Some of us have time that is just worth more.
This doesn't shock the conscience at all since it included his preparation, attendance, and testimony at trial....
The guy doesn’t just show up from out of state wearing a necktie and carrying a briefcase — “Hey, thur, how y’all dewin’?” — and then climb on the witness stand. What does “expert witness” mean to a Mississippian, something slightly more than minimum wage?
This is standard for the industry. It doesn't shock me and is not inconsistent with amounts I paid to qualified experts in civil litigation.
Competence costs.
How much would a retrial cost?
Money well spent.
If this was for a defense expert for an indigent defendant, you all would be having a heart attack!
I believe $300.00 per hour for a psychiatrist who was retained to do what he did and testify is VERY reasonable.
The only line item I have a question about is him billing over 72 hours to complete an 85 page forensic report. That equates to a little over 1 hour per page (or $300 per page). I haven't seen his forensic report though, so what do I know. . .
The man did the work - pay him.
Next time try TaskMonkey and see how that turns out?
Pretty standard rates and cost for expert witness services. I don't get the "ouch."
Won't mean much to the great unwashed, but the average bill submitted by one of the usual shrinks at Whitfield runs about $10 large at the outside for similar testimony and reporting. So one understands why the court, the DA, and representatives of the county taxpayers who will be footing this bill are rightfully asking questions. $51k is probably a little eye-raising to the MDs at state hospital. I hope Dr Pickett isn't expecting to be appointed for court testimony anywhere in Mississippi in the near future.
What did Dr. Clark charge? Dr. Jason Pickett said he would give his honest opinion& it may not be what the prosecution or defense gree with, so that is that. Pay him.
Does this go into the court fees owed/paid by the defendant? I remember at the end of the trial, I heard them say she would pay fees but it was like $400ish dollars.
If and when the total is calculated for this whole tragedy - from the initial police response to the trial to the girl's total cost of incarceration and everything else, $50,000 will be a small fraction. If the doctor (only) did the things he was asked to do, did it competently, and is now accurately billing for it at the agreed rate, he is entitled to be paid. Not sure why anyone would suggest being paid under those circumstances is improper. I found all the rationalizing/justification in the cover letter a bit odd/unprofessional but that is a personal call about the submission of the invoice, not a comment about the professional services invoiced.
9:33 He is not from out of state. He resides in Tupelo. Please sit down before you embarrass yourself even further.
This expert's hourly fee is well within the range. However if you look at his charges you see an enormous amount of time spent in discovery and written documentation. Maybe some padding there but if he did it and there is no reason to doubt the time then the bill, while high, is appropriate.
This fee is very reasonable in today’s market for any credible expert in any type of litigation. Ask any attorney what the going rate is for any qualified expert they have to hire. The expert has to become intimately familiar with the
litigation, do extensive research, issue a report to the court and be available to be deposed and testify under oath. The opposing counsel will aggressively attempt to disqualify the expert at every opportunity. It takes a special person to have the expertise to fully comprehend the matter, withstand the challenge to their credibility by opposing counsel and maintain their composure.
"I hope Dr Pickett isn't expecting to be appointed for court testimony anywhere in Mississippi in the near future."
I doubt he will starve without business from MS.
It's not just lawyers who know how to "run up the meter."
Next time use (Dr) Google AI.
As an expert in another field, the hourly rate charged was not out of bounds. The total looks a little fat, but preparing for expert testimony can be intensive, so I wouldn't argue that either. However, having watched his testimony, I am surprised that he was selected. Pickett has very limited experience and NO experience with children or juveniles. Had I been on this jury, I would have given his testimony very little weight. He also did something else that I thought was suspect: He gave an opinion on a patient (Kevin Gregg) who he had never examined, and that opinion ran counter to the opinion of a doctor that had actually examined the patient. That's some high-grade BS right there.
Not being an expert in his field, I can't say whether Pickett came to the correct conclusion regarding Carly Gregg, but, I can say that, if he did come to the correct conclusion, it was strictly by chance. It definitely wasn't due to his professional expertise, rigor, and ethics.
Heck, I had a Hot Water Heater installed for $1900.00 a month ago. Felt, I was ripped off. But I can take a bath now.
I do a lot of motion practice and appeals. When I look back over it, I usually average about an hour per page to write, and that's after doing the research and gathering and organizing the evidence.
The time reviewing discovery seems like a lot to me, but I'm in no position to question it. When the defense threw up an insanity defense, the State had to respond.
The State can afford to try criminal cases. The criminal justice system is not the place to cut corners.
Wonder if they will have to pay him again? New trial?
KF is just thinking he may have gone into the wrong line of work! Seriously, a psychiatrist is an MD + PhD. A lawyer is just one, JD. Two doctorates, double pay.
all these rednecks drooling over paying this shrink a fee well into the 5 figures. these are the same people who will bitch, moan , cry , and complain when a attorney they hired bills for their time.
i got a fool proof way for you green teeth to get out of paying what you owe your attorney.......just don't pay him. dont worry he won't sue you for the fee cause 99% of you green teeth don't have any net worth and not one dollar of assets .
Incorrect. A psychiatrist is not necessarily a PhD. He or she is required to be an M.D. but not necessarily a PhD.
@1:37 okay, Bridget. 🤡 Dr. Pickett’s testimony was knowledgeable and informed. Forensic psychiatrists are trained to investigate and come to conclusions based on the information they are provided. The one page of physician notes given on Kevin were not enough to warrant as fact. And Dr. Pickett even said that— “provide me more information on his diagnoses and I’d be happy to consider it.”
I have no idea if Pickett is competent or not. But anyone upset with the bill (assuming it's accurate, time-wise) should not be upset with him, they should be upset with the DA's office. This whole case has been a shitshow, lawyer-wise.
Let's recap: a 14 year old shot her mother and her stepfather, basically on video and in any case, undisputed and uncontested. The only real question was what to do with her - there is no "innocent by reason of insanity." She wasn't going from the trial back to school if she had been found NGRI. It should not have taken 171 hours to determine her level of "sanity" and culpability insofar as those immediate actions, nor would it have taken file boxes of discovery to review. As but one example, I'll assume Pickett's assertion of the amount of discovery he was asked to review and assess is accurate because the DA's office would know if it were inaccurate. And that brings it back to the DA's office. So the question would be and is for the DA as to why it wanted such work done, not the person charging for the services he was asked to provide by it.
6;49 is not a lawyer but he plays one on jackson jambalaya.............if found insane by the jury she would have been committed to the state mental hospital at whit field. you really should go home to your mother.
6:49, I would not want an attorney who does only as much work as he thinks is necessary to get by.
Usually, the other lawyers and the judges know who those people are, and they lack credibility.
"6;49 is not a lawyer..."
I call, and raise you an MD.
"..if found insane by the jury she would have been committed to the state mental hospital at whit field."
Is that your legal or medical opinion? Here's a hint - she would not have been found "insane" in a criminal trial - research it. As much as I am tempted, I'll leave things like "whit field" to others who wish to further respond to either the weakish trolling or honest stupidity...
And I'd love to go home to my mother, but, well, she died about 40 years after I got my MD and about 30 after my JD, so that's out.
Many years ago I considered majoring in Psychology. After looking at the potential job market, I decided where could I get a job and what could I earn
Today I would seriously say Hell Yea.
"Today I would seriously say Hell Yea."
The best time to do something was yesterday, the next best is today, but tomorrow is still in-play. You gotta be you, but regardless of age or current situation, dying on the path to "seriously" would seem to be better than dying never having tried.
That rate is a bargain. Lawyers charge that much and psychiatrists go to school much longer than lawyers.
to 10;25 there are legions of MS's out there who never passed medical boards, and legions of JD's who never passed the bar. you talk like one of those types.
Yes there is, but in Mississippi it is called Guilty, But Restored. The jurors were given that as one of their verdict choices. So if that was what the jurors chose, she'd walk right out the courtroom doors.
Probably most of the "money well spent" comments here are from lawyers - who like Pickett MD take their sweet time with things while inflating the actual number of hours worked or even needed to "do the job". "Pad that check because you can" applies to a whole host of industries that are subsidized by insurance or government money. with little/no oversight. I'd bet that bill should be at least half of what it is, and same goes for most attorney's invoices.
6:46....needs to read 4:09
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