Wednesday, June 2, 2010

More video on the Hamas confrontation with Israel

Meanwhile, remember the aid the so-called humanitarians attempted to deliver to Gaza? Well, the Israelis attempted to carry out their mission for them:

Turns out Hamas blocked delivery of the supplies:
"Hamas is blocking the delivery of the humanitarian aid that arrived on the Gaza flotilla, defense establishment sources said on Wednesday. Hamas has yet to respond to the claims. ....." Article

"Hamas refused on Wednesday to allow the aid equipment that was captured by the IDF aboard the flotilla ships earlier this week to enter the Gaza Strip.

"We refuse to receive the humanitarian aid until all those who were detained aboard the ships are released," said Ahmed Kurd, Minister for Social Welfare in the Hamas government said. "We also insist that the equipment be delivered in its entirety."

Kurd said that Israel's decision to allow a number of wheelchairs to be delivered to the Gaza Strip was a "deception," claiming that the batteries that operate them had been removed, making them useless...
." Article


ibuddy said...

Israel is more or less a thorn in our side. (worse) Check out John Meerscheimer's book THE ISRAEL LOBBY, which this distinguished scholar had to have published in England because of . . . "The Israel Lobby.Check out a new book next month, fiction but extremely insightful - PALESTINE: THE RIGHT OF RETURN: A ONE STATE SOLUTION.

Paul Mitchell said...

Dang, Kingfish, you got an anti-Semitic commenter on your blog.

Anonymous said...

There is a difference between blindly supporting every decision Israel makes and anti-Semitism, Paul. Even in Israel, they don't have a unified politic view on every action their elected government takes. Not all Jews support every action an Israeli government takes.
It might be nice in THIS country if we put OUR national interests first rather than cater to every powerful lobby or interest group there is.
The facts aren't all in, but if this ship was in international waters,and the people aboard ship were armed with sling shots and bats only, and there was only humanitarian cargo, this was a dumb attack on Israel's part.

Paul Mitchell said...

Anon 7:18, Israel has a method for delivering humanitarian supplies to the Muslims in Gaza for a reason. Mainly is it because the Muslims keep firing rockets into residential areas and killing people because those people are Jewish.

Ignore that all you want to, but that is what is happening. As a matter of fact, Rachel Corrie got dead because she was guarding one of the houses that had weapons tunnels coming up into it, but let's honor those criminals anyway, mmmmkay?

Anonymous said...

It might be nice in THIS country if we put OUR national interests first rather than cater to every powerful lobby or interest group there is.

Are you in favor of an across-the-broad ending of all military aid and troop deployments to all foreign countries to which we currently provide funds and/or troops?

Put up or shut up.

Anonymous said...

The facts ARE in 7:18 and you are IGNORING them.

Voice of Reason said...

Paul's 9:26 comment is rooted in the same logical ignorance that gives us: "You oppose Obama. Obama is black. Therefore, you are racist."

Not everyone who opposes an Israeli or Jewish position on an issue is an anti-Semite.

Having said that, Israel was right to stop those ships and should continue doing so.

Paul Mitchell said...

Yeah, my comment is EXACTLY like that, VoR, except that it is the complete opposite.

Israeli or Jewish occupation? That is cute!

Anonymous said...

VOR dogs Mitchell for "logical ignorance" but then associates themselves with Pee Wee Herman.

Voice of Reason said...

Not a fan of the cinema, 8:39? By the way, are you familiar with non sequiturs?

Voice of Reason said...

By the way 8:39.

Voice of Reason 8 said...

Well, we have another Voice of Reason. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, I suppose.

Voice of Reason 8:29 & 8:55 said...

My enthusiasm over being replicated led to a loss of keyboard control. Still, I can hardly contain myself.

Anonymous said...

That is what happens when you type with one hand and play a flute solo with the other.

Anonymous said...

Jackson Jambalaya: Your source for uncritical, automatic, reflexive, knee-jerk support for Israel!

And if you disagree....we'll call you a racist!

This is some blog you have here.

Anonymous said...

my belief is that the world's opinion of Israel is driven by a fear of the Arab world and the politics of terror they (arabs) create.

Israel is a great example of people who had nothing and turned a dusty spot in the desert into an oasis of economic success.

My concern is that our do-nothing President might be a catalyst of a
regional conflagration.

Anonymous said...

Netanyahu says " Israel is guilty , until proven guilty" in the eyes of the rest of the world.

Anonymous said...

Paul, even Jon Stewart, who IS Jewish and supports Israel, said that anyone who doesn't see the suffering in the Gaza Strip doesn't have a heart.

Yes, I know that Hamas is bad and acts in sneaky ways...way to assume you are the only one keeps us with the news.

Neither you nor I know at this point whether or not this was a fraudulent humanitarian effort with hidden arms or infiltrators aboard. IF Israel has boarded within their waters, then that is a risk these folks assumed in running a blockcade.

IF the blockade is only to prevent arms and infiltrators, why would Israel refuse to off load the aide and deliver it?

If they won't accept HUMANITARIAN aide, then is the blockade to force the people of Gaza into submission much like the old medieval seige?

Israel has political parties just as we do.

You might read Israel's newspapers available in English. Israeli citizens aren't any happier sometimes with their government than we are with ours. But, some of us seem to believe that Israel's government is it a conservative or liberal government.

That's just a lack of objectivity .

Kingfish said...

Isreal DID off-load the supplies and attempt to deliver them and Hamas refused delivery. I cited two newspaper stories AND posted the video.

Quit lying.

Paul Mitchell said...

And Anon, 7:23, there is ONLY VIDEO of the "Relief Workers" attacking the IDF as they board the ship attempting to run Israel's LEGALLY established blockade. Not to mention, but oddly Egypt is also part of that blockade, too.

You might not know what happened, but normal people do.

Some people seem to think that Islam is a Religion of Peace, but that is just a lack of intelligence.

Anonymous said...

That's just a lack of objectivity .

There isn't a whiff of objectivity in your error filled post.

Captain Stubing said...

Coming to MSNBC this fall.

Anonymous said...

Let's face it....the American Right supports Israel, right or wrong. It doesn't matter what Israel does, the support is unconditional. Why is this? There is only one reason, and that is religion. Jews and Christians share the Old Testament, and many Christians have a deeply held bias against Arabs. Thus Israel is a symbol of Christianity's war against Islam. It's really that simple. Thus any discussion of the specifics of this flotilla massacre doesn't really matter, we all already know that Kingfish is going to support Israel, because they are Israel. I just wish he would be upfront about his biases and quit pretending to be some sort of objective bystander who is examining the facts. He is anti-Islam, anti-Arab, and pro-Israel, regardless of the facts. It's that simple.

Paul Mitchell said...

Anon 12:45, continue to ignore the facts about the terrorist flotilla. There is only video of what happened.

Muslims are NOT going to eat y'all last. Y'all are the easy kills.

Anonymous said...

Thus any discussion of the specifics of this flotilla massacre doesn't really matter

Please jerkoff. Go ahead and introduce the specifics about the whole flotilla matter that you feel are germane. NOBODY is stopping you from making your case. No, instead you want to bitch and cry about bias. But YOU'VE DONE NOTHING beyond soundbites to state your case.

So the floor is yours. Please, please put up or shut the fuck up.

Anonymous said...

Jerk-off? That's nice. This is why this is such a great blog. Any disagreements result in name-calling and obscenities. I'm surprised you didn't call me an anti-Semite.

You clearly didn't understand my point. I'm not trying to defend Israel OR the flotilla. I'm saying that the specifics don't matter, because this blog is going to defend Israel regardless of the specifics. That's my case. You and Paul Mitchell somehow think I'm defending the flotilla, but apparently neither of you are very bright.

Paul Mitchell said...

Anon 3:13, of course I am not very bright because it is very clear that I am responding to someone that is making statements without knowing any of the facts regarding this situation. But when people make statements that are clearly anti-freedom or anti-self defense, and do not want an independent country to exist, I kinda get my hackles up.

Sorry, I shall keep my non-bright comments to myself.

By the way, it is odd that you would make a blanket statement about JJ defending Israel no matter what Israel does and use THIS circumstance as some kind of "evidence" of that. You are very, very bright.

Anonymous said...

Paul Mitchell: This is not the only post Kingfish has had about Israel. He defends their actions regularly.

Why do you think I'm defending the flotilla? Please read my post again, I have done no such thing. Your pro-Israel bias is preventing you from understanding my point. I'm not making any points about the actual events, because they are not germane to my point. You have no idea whether I know anything about the event or not.

I'm not sure if the comments you made about anti-freedom and anti-defense refer to me or not, but I haven't made those comments. Again, my point is that this blog provides reactionary, automatic, uncritical support for Israel, right or wrong. Any other inferences are incorrect.

Anonymous said...

This blog may be too advanced for you 3:13+3:42. You might want to cut your teeth on one of the beginner blogs. Depending on your choice of flavor, try the JFP or Y'allPolitics. You'll find the hymnal those choirs use easier to follow along.

Paul Mitchell said...

Anon 3:42, I have Pro-Israel bias? Just like you have not defended the Muslim terrorists trying to run a legally formed and internationally recognized blockade by Egypt and Israel, I have not defended Israel nor Egypt. I simply told you that VIDEO existed to prove that you had no clue what you were talking about.

I have no idea which Anon you are, but I made a comment referring to someone that is saying an independent country has no right to defend itself from terrorism. That is anti-freedom and anti-self defense. You can disagree, but that would make you wrong.

But, then again, I am not very bright.

Anonymous said...

Paul Mitchell: Video exists that demonstrates that Kingfish doesn't automatically defend Israel? Good grief, what do I have to do to make my point?

Anonymous said...

I'm saying that the specifics don't matter, because this blog is going to defend Israel regardless of the specifics.

Even if that is the case, which it isn't, so what? If this blog is reliably pro-Israel, so what?

The masthead clearly says A jambalaya of commentary, politics, culture, and jackassery .... What about that don't you understand?

Anonymous said...

... what do I have to do to make my point?

Good grief, do you have to bother? We know that opinions lurk within this blog. We know that some opinions are strongly held. We know that there will be opinions posted here that we may disagree with. We know that this is a raucous, generally anonymous crowd.

Okay, what else? What other obvious bullshit do you want to reiterate again?

Anonymous said...

Keep in mind that the only thing different between what is going on in Israel and what is going on in the Southwest US is hemispheres.

These people were not peaceful. They briefly kidnapped and tortured three IDF soldiers, only releasing the soldiers when they saw their ship was overcome by IDF.

Enjoy your freedom while it lasts.

Anonymous said...

Keep in mind that the only thing different between what is going on in Israel and what is going on in the Southwest US is hemispheres.

The Mexican government doesn't control the northern reaches of Mexico that directly abut our southern border. The militias of the drug lords have made that area a 'No Man's Land'. It is only a matter of degrees different than Pakistan's inability to control its northern border lands directly adjacent to Afghanistan.

Anonymous said...

Hey Kingfish, given that hideous hag , Helen Thomas strong views regarding Israel. how bout a history recap of the existence of jews in the region long before, the creation of Israel as a state,
and the influx of palestinians as a result of their on explusion from many arab states. And, the wars of agression that have been inflicted agaisnt Israel and the ass-whooping they've

Anonymous said...

From the LA Times...

The Egyptian Supreme Court has affirmed an earlier verdict to revoke the citizenship of Egyptian men married to Israeli women.

In his Saturday ruling, Supreme Court judge Mohamed Husseini said the government should begin enforcing the verdict.,....
Over the last 20 years, thousands of Egyptians have flooded Israel searching for work and better living conditions. Reports indicate that about 30,000 Egyptian men are married to Israeli women.

Anonymous said...

3 IDF soldiers were kidnapped and locked up in the ship. They were only released when it was learned the IDF had control of the ship.

And these are humanitarian relief workers? Bull. They are Arab terrorists.

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