Jackson Jambalaya

On HB#997 I do hope that every single policy would be "It's Mississippi, go play outside."

I really enjoyed the part of the post that highlights the bills coming to a quiet ending in the Senate.

Never seen heatstroke, have you? If they adopt some military guidelines or something similar, that would be good. Main thing is to make them drink so much water every hour.

When I was about eight or nine, I was in the hospital for four days from heatstroke. On Independence Day, too!

Still, regulations never actually do anything, Kingfish. Kids should be taught these things in Health class. Oh, that's right, we no longer teach Health.

Looks to me like the Stupid Law Haters that post here will NOT appreciate HB#997. Shouldn't we have enough sense already not to overheat outside? One more law on the books telling schools what to do. If you overheat outside, child or not, you shoulda had better sense, and you don't need another law to know that!

Man, government messing with my toy lighter collection, the whole kids on atv's thing (big deal), plus cutting into my sexy times at the prison, and now this!!! This is BS, man!!!

The fact that someone has to make a law to prohibit or govern the sale of toy lighters makes me laugh.

Stupid should hurt.

2726 is for ER docs only, not nurses in the version passed.

4:03 - You must not have a child that plays football for middle / jr high or high school. Try telling some of these coaches your kid needs a water break. Good luck with that.

WSJ: In recent years, there have been about four or five heat-related deaths a year among U.S. high-school football players, according to the National Center for Catastrophic Injury Research at the University of North Carolina. Coaches want to "separate the men from the boys" - "kids won't speak up because they want to impress the coaches...."
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204376604574280761954597096.html

Anon 9:17, the end result of this type of legislation is everyone living in a protective bubble and having no freedoms. Again, personal responsibility is everything here and you are advocating eradicating it.

PM: if it means my child doesn't die of heatstroke because of an overzealous coach, absolutely.

I just cannot understand the desire to surrender your freedoms. Sorry.

9:17, 4:03 was being completely factitious. She/he were ridiculing posters on here who do make posts like that and are serious about it.

Paul, trying to figure out how guidelines = surrendering my freedom. Unless I am a nutso coach who insists on water-free two-a-days in August, I fail to see what I am losing.

You know the cliche "Your freedom ends where my rights begin?" My child's freedom to live and be healthy is more important than some 1-A coach's "freedom" to run a 21st-century Junction Boy camp.

Law has always existed to protect -- the Ten Commandments were handed down because the people of Israel couldn't be trusted use their "personal responsibility" to live correctly. Our laws are meant to protect.

When another person's idiocy puts a child I love at risk, yeah, I want a law. So do other pragmatic, sensible adults. And the more people pull out the old, tired "we have too many laws" argument against appropriately protective legislation, the less seriously I take that whole philosophy.

JFG, your right is to keep your kids out of taxpayer funded sports.

I'm supposing Paul's out of kids he can sacrifice to HS football. Me? If idiot coaches still subscribe to that water-free nonsense, I retain my right as a parent to do all I can to keep my kids out of their murderous path.

Yeah, my kid leaves for boot camp tomorrow. I hope he doesn't get heat stroke in Great Lakes in February.

"JFG, your right is to keep your kids out of taxpayer funded sports."

What an idiotic statement. My kids are in taxpayer funded sports (with a few hundred more thrown in from each parent). Why would an idiotic coach have the right to harm my children under the guise of "sports"?

There are rules for everything in life. Most are unwritten, common sense, but since SOME coaches seem to care more about what THEY think is right, these parameters are needed.

Sorry for being an idiot, Anon 1:47. I am responsible for my own kid. I guess that the Mississippi legislature is responsible for yours. They must know better than you how to raise your children.

"Sorry for being an idiot, Anon 1:47. I am responsible for my own kid. I guess that the Mississippi legislature is responsible for yours. They must know better than you how to raise your children."

This is 1:47. What coach will even allow a kid to get a drink of water at practice if the kid needed it? My son asked for water last year at a practice just before football season and was told to "suck it up". He collapsed after practice and it took the trainer 30 minutes to get him back to normal.

So what the hell are the kids supposed to do? Just quit? Aren't they allowed to play sports without the risk of harm?

Anon, I have no clue where your kids are going to school, but when my son was in sports it seemed that all they did was drink water and play grab-ass, instead of practice.

The direction that I would go if I thought the coach was running the children in the ground would be to say something to the principal of the school. They are too afraid of getting sued to do anything stupid. Making another law giving schools more control over your kids is really not my idea of good legislation. We are just on opposing sides.

Paul, that's just a snarky remark a bully would make. You've gone through your original argument too quickly (that's because it's weak and more a matter of viewpoint), and now you are reduced to ridiculing the opposing view personally.

"I am responsible for my own kid. I guess that the Mississippi legislature is responsible for yours. They must know better than you how to raise your children."

Childish, and poorly played.

Again, Anon, YOU called ME an idiot, then asked for parenting tips. I gave them to you, and now you say that MY debating lacks logic and I am calling names? Then you have the temerity to call ME childish for responding to your question?

Okay. You win, Super Smart Person That Doesn't Resort to Childish Behavior. This debate has all the FACTS! as AGW, everything proves your point. Good job, I am bested.

My son asked for water last year at a practice just before football season and was told to "suck it up". He collapsed after practice and it took the trainer 30 minutes to get him back to normal.

So what did you do about it?

I bet he called his Dad...ooo wait, strike that, reverse it,I mean...his Representative and urged him to pass a law to punish the coach in the future.

You can never be too safe with the raising of your children, heaven forbid you actually took your child out of the game and sought immediate medical attention; then, you met with the principle, the PTA, other parents, THE COACH from the school to outline your concerns and bring about change YOURSELF.

But instead, you relinquished your personal responsibility to someone else: the public. Thanks. No lighters for you!

"They are too afraid of getting sued to do anything stupid."

They can't get sued if there are no guidelines or laws in place to indicate that certain behaviors or actions are inappropriate. If your kid had a heat stroke because of the careless actions of a coach and there were NO LAWS indicating that the school and school personnel have some responsibility for your child's safety, you would have no basis for a suit.

"Making another law giving schools more control over your kids is really not my idea of good legislation."

Where is this law about controlling kids? It's about requiring school systems to set guidelines that STAFF must follow. No different from requiring schools to do background checks on potential employees to make sure they aren't sex offenders.

And by the way -- political philosophy alone, when it comes down to is, is a VERY poor bit of ground to stand on when trying to claim moral high ground. Especially when you are arguing against those who would prefer that their kids not get killed by overzealous coaches. That's a battle you will never win, and it will actually work against you.

But, as I have stated elsewhere, pragmatism continues to be in alarmingly short supply these days.

JFG, you won, now you are just piling on. That hurts.

Seeing the recent new cuts in MS, it is reassuring to see we are passing more laws we can't enforce or police.

Oh well, I guess those who want more regulations are willing to pay for it with more taxes, so nevermind, we can spend our way into further depletion of personal liberties. Its the logical thing to do right?

7:37 - if you are a convicted pedophile and have to register as a sex offender - is this a depletion of personal liberties?

"My son asked for water last year at a practice just before football season and was told to "suck it up". He collapsed after practice and it took the trainer 30 minutes to get him back to normal.

So what did you do about it?"

I called the school district office and ranted and raved. Got an apology, then the boys had a row of water set up from then on.

11:04 PM - If you are a stupid person, should stupid hurt? Yes. It appears to work for you.

I'm going to sensationalize a rational argument by making an outlandish statement. Stupid. Showing your HS dropout edjumication.

And to 6:12 AM - RIGHT ON! My lord, it certainly looks to me like personal responsibility was the correct thing to do, and you did it, unfortunately, we still have folks like 11:04 PM and we should pass the legislation to protect them from stupid, um, themselves. They are a menace to themselves and everyone they interact with. Kuddos to you sir!

11:04, man, you one cru-el dude. whats up with the vitriolic spewing?