The city of Jackson provided the following update on Thalia Mara Hall on its website.
The City of Jackson is currently awaiting Bids for Remediation Procurement to ensure we get the best pricing and least disruptive timeline regarding Thalia Mara Hall. We will continue to publish updates every Thursday as additional developments are made.
- 9/24: CTEH submitted a follow-up Proposal to their Initial Assessment
- 10/1: Request for Bids for Remediation Procurement
- 10/3: Mandatory Site Visit for Interested Contractors
Next Steps:
- 10/10: Deadline to submit bid and qualification documents
- 10/11: The City will request best and final bid from the top 2 bidders
- 10/14: Selected Bidder will receive notification
- We still do not know when remediation will begin; however, that will be determined after a Bidder is selected. So far, the remediation timelines that have been given are between 4 to 8 weeks.
- We continue to work in partnership with the State Fire Marshal’s office to correct findings and violations in their report, though many minor violations have already been remedied.
- A final inspection will be performed.
- Clearance and certificate of occupancy at this point are to be determined.
Other:
- Asbestos:
Q: Is there Abestos in the building?
A: There has been follow-up to the initial site assessment performed by CTEH, including return visits to the facility and meetings with building representatives to address other aspects of the building, such as elevated surfaces and ventilation systems. Per CTEH’s 9/24/24 proposal, the next logical phase of this project would be a Limited Asbestos Survey in which the inspection and sampling of building materials in impacted areas of the building for potential asbestos. A Mississippi-licensed asbestos inspector would perform the limited survey in the building to determine the presence of asbestos materials that may be affected by cleaning, removal or destructive remediation methods. Samples may be collected from spray- on fire-proofing, plaster, ceiling tiles and other suspect materials.
- Chiller Outside:
Q: Is the chiller currently sitting outside of Thalia Mara Hall a temporary chiller? Did the City Purchase it?
A: The Chiller that is sitting outside of TMH is not a temporary Chiller. It is a permanent
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It will reopen in November 2025-
assuming asbestos abatement is NOT required.
Asbestos? Mo money, Mo money on the way…
And we are supposed to believe this report? Remind me how long it's been since they closed the doors for repair. This place will never re-open.
Good, Fast, Cheap; pick not more than two.
Good and fast isn’t cheap, good and cheap isn’t fast, fast and cheap isn’t good.
However, with Jackson's special bid letting and management skills they could pick Slow, Expensive, and Bad.
Q: Is the chiller sitting outside hooked up and working? Or is it just sitting there?
Q: What would be the effect on the timeline if asbestos is found in friable materials that need to be cleaned due to the "early-stage microbial growth"?
Richard's Contracting to the rescue !
Socrates for the win?
And the winner is...Socrates Garrett Concert Hall Renovator LLC. Right?
The winner is Ben Dover Jackson LLC
Those lefties never let a crisis go to waste. Right?
Couple things ... Wonder why so transparent. Ha. and why are we not getting the second and third bids from 3 contractors. Less chance of collusion and it helps bring the cost down even more.
You people cut the mayor some slack. He is a well-known Patron of The Arts.
You negative nellies just wait until the grand re-opening when Kingfish posts photos of the mayor in his lime green tuxedo and mauve slippers.
The biggest challenge the city faces is restoring public confidence in Thalia Mara Hall. A big part of that challenge is the city's own credibility. After one crisis after another, & one lie after another another from the mayor, why should anyone believe anything the city says? It's a hellish situation.
Have no fear, friends of Chockwe are here! No qualifications required! The State needs to select the contractor!
Has anyone checked the Secretary of State website to see whether Jody Owens has registered a new LLC?
It was built in 1968. Good chance they will find asbestos. However, asbestos isn't an issue unless it is cut on or messed with. BUT this will most likely be an insurance claim, and the city is going to milk every dime out of it and use it as much as they can to update the building as much as possible, including asbestos abatement.
Now the fun talking point. In 2023 the city was left scrambling to pay the renewal that increased $2mil in August of 2023. That was after they got non-renewed by Liberty Mutual and Brian Johnson and the Bottrell Boys(now Marsh Men) had to place it with Lexington(non-admitted most likely$$$$$) due to the condition of many of the buildings and the fact the city failed to implement some loss control safeguards and claims. Since August of 2023 the property insurance market in central Mississippi, and the whole country, pretty much have progressively gotten worse. Depending on if this claim(I'm betting it is) is covered due to certain exclusions in the market they are most likely placed in with Lexington, you could see the City's property insurance non-renewed again and having a MASSIVE increase, that is even if anyone will even write it considering claims, condition, and the word of mouth Jackson most likely has. Basically no one really wants to insure the City of Jackson. This ought to be fun to navigate!!!
"Other factors also contributed to Liberty’s decision not to renew, including a $450,000 claim following a fire at juvenile court in 2019, a $148,000 water damage claim in 2020, and a $450,000 claim for a water treatment pump in 2020.
“And then, in 2021, there’s the ice storm water treatment plant claim. This prior year, the city was seeking to be reimbursed for expenses that were incurred from that event,” Johnson added.
“And, I guess through a lot of correspondence, the adjuster at Liberty Mutual was saying, ‘Hey, you know, we received two invoices with the same numbers, but the scope of work has been altered on the invoice. Can you please verify that?’” Johnson continued. “I think that claim still may be open.”
https://www.wlbt.com/2023/08/16/city-scrambling-pay-2m-increase-property-insurance-premium/
Since moisture accumulated on surfaces, if asbestos is found circulating multiply x’s ten. Don’t know much about commercial chillers, if you run contaminated air through them, do they become contaminated? This will be a grifters paradise. Bet the change orders resulting from additional problems identified will exceed initial bids. How many more things can Chockwe run into the ground and enrich himself and others while correcting? Remember all the assurances we got about the company brought in to “fix” the zoo? How about the years of contractors paid to keep the water facilities fixed and running? Ask a mediocre man to be in charge and you will get mediocre results.
Ask a corrupt man to handle things and corruption will result. Chokwe is both.
Sister R's Fixin and Cleaning LLC?
Luckily the lower humidity season is almost here.
Hello 3:13 - Can I get you another whiskey and Diet Coke? I hear your bride knocking on the barn-door of your study with the Cheese-Toast sammich you ordered via intercom.
Why is this mayor not in prison? I say that as a career-long commercial building contractor. Under this mayor the City has a history of preparing bid documents so that the low bidder cannot be determined. That SCREAMS corruption. With the trash contract a few years ago some bid to do the work with full crews and some bid an automated truck where special trash cans were required. The low/best bid could not be determined. That problem was 100% predictable and the project specifications could have been written take the uncertainty out of the process. Unless someone, everyone involved in preparing the bid documents works directly or indirectly for the mayor, WANTS an uncertain result.
Here, they are blatant. They ask for bid and then the two low bidders must bid a again with their BEST bid. In my 40+ years in the industry I never saw that when public money was involved. That's something a private owner might do. Even then it's rare. What the public may not realize is that a lot of contractors will recognize this pattern and refuse to participate. Fewer bidders guarantees higher prices. I'm retired and have no first hand knowledge of any of this. Only what I see in the news. I moved to Jackson 40 years ago. I would not be surprised if this mayor hasn't had more bids opened where the low bidder wasn't awarded the job without additional hoops to jump thru than under mayors Danks, Ditto, Johnson, Melton, Johnson, Lumumba, and Yarber combined.
How many people have to call the FBI before this stealing stops?
The USDA sure as hell has ignored the Zoo. I would expect no less from the FBI.
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