Kingfish note: It's nice to see a city doing things right. Apparently the Fourth of July now means June 30 or July 1 or July 2 around here but this is Mississippi. JJ does not like the trend of seeing special days such as Halloween and Independence Day moved around. Sort of like trying to watch something about Christmas on Christmas Day but unable to do so because the networks already broadcast all of the Christmas shows. Where is Andy Rooney when we need him?
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July 4th is the day that Vicksburg surrendered. After almost two month of women, children, and other innocent civilians being murdered via war crimes committed by the United States Army. Nothing to celebrate. Go back to Texas, you’re not a Mississippian.
@9:34 AM, I respectfully disagree with your description of the US Army committing "war crimes" at Vicksburg. Gen Grant, Gen Sherman and other Union Army leaders involved in the Vicksburg campaign honored the rules of war during that time period and did not target innocent civilians. In fact, their guidance to subordinate commanders was to respect and protect the private property of Southern civilians. They did target and destroy certain businesses and facilities that actively supported the Confederate war effort but under no circumstance would they tolerate the purposeful killing of innocent women and children.
Were innocent woman and children killed during the siege of Vicksburg? Absolutely, but remember that the Confederate government transformed the river city into a fortress stronghold that was an obvious military target for Northern forces pushing down the Mississippi River.
Same day Lee surrendered. Bad day for the slave owners.
So a damn post about fireworks on Independence Day turns into a new online civil war over the.... civil war. Wow. Some people just can't let things go.
July 4th was not the day Lee Surrendered. July 4, 1863 was day three of Gettysburg when Lee's Army of Northern Virginia was defeated and forced to retreat. I believe Lee Surrendered April 9, 1865 at Appomattox Courthouse.
Anyways, I agree with Kingfish on this. July 4th is the day to celebrate regardless of what day of the week it falls on.
Again....you’re not from here.
Independence Day celebration is a federal holiday in the United States commemorating the adoption of the Declaration of Independence on July 4, 1776. It has absolutely nothing to do with the Civil War. Duh!!!
Yeah, the 4th is complicated in Mississippi. Probably should change the date.
When I moved to this state 30 years ago, I told my dad that they were still fighting the civil war here. Still true.
Unreconstructed Revisionist. Geez! When I saw the topic, before clicking in, I wondered if some such person would bring up Vicksburg. Then I see it's the very first freaking comment. While the City of Vicksburg historically did not "observe" July 4th celebrations, the casinos changed that some 25 years ago.
BTW, Kingfish, I agree with you on the concept that certain days have particular meaning and having celebrations whenever it's commercially convenient. I especially despise the way that, as you mentioned, all things Christmas end on Christmas Day... when the 12 Days of Christmas only BEGIN on Christmas Day!
July 4. If you don't love it, you are one of 'those people' that our President talks about. Leave Our Country if you don't like the fact that President Lincoln (R) made sure that our union endured. Move to Canada if you can't handle that!
@ 10:46 -- Unless you're Choctaw, Chickasaw, Quapaw, Tunica, Ofo, Natchez, Houma, or Biloxi; you're not from around here, either.
10:47 nailed it. Everyone else needs a chill pill
12:00
The Choctaw, Chickasaw, Quapaw, Tunica, Ofo, Mofo, Natchez, Houma and Biloxi weren't originally from around here, either.
What's your point?
People who cling to the confederacy are no different than modern day alt-right terrorists like Atomwaffen Division, Proudboys, Black Sun, or any of the other ADL recognized white natioanlist groups that terrorized Charlottesville and who wish to destroy this country in a second Civil War.
So of course you wouldn't want to enjoy an Amwrican patriotic celebration, you all wish you lived in the CSA or Nazi Germany with Donald Drumpf as your Fuhrer!
1006 are you serious. General Sherman was a war criminal. He burned and killed his way from Vicksburg to Atlanta, total war against civilians. He wanted to burn Vicksburg to the ground, but since General Grants cousin lived in Vicksburg maybe that’s what saved it.
WOW-
I believe @12:00 just dropped the mic and walked off stage.
@3:53
I believe kingfish is censoring replies to 12:00
"Again....you’re not from here. "
Thank God
Anybody who suggests Sherman did not murder, maim, rape, pillage and torch civilian non-combatant persons and property has bought into the false, liberal narrative that Lincoln freed the slaves.
Right the "New Minority" would want to talk about the Civil War. Thank God my family got their freedom in 1783.
That's the problem with driving with your head turned around looking backwards at the past, such as the Civil War or Slavery. You are going to drive right into a brick wall.
Says a guy who has no knowledge of, appreciation for or concern about accurate history of Lincoln's Unnecessary War. It's easy for the black crowd, other liberals and people who think like Kingfish to dismiss, out of hand, any historically accurate comments which are intended to educate.
"You're trying to re-fight the Civil War" is weak and silly.
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