Mark Baker and Andy Taggart squared off in a debate sponsored by the Gulf Coast chapter of the Federalist Society. State Treasurer Lynn Fitch did not appear. The complete video and a list of questions asked in the debate are posted below. The debate took place at William Carey University in Hattiesburg.
Posted below is a list of questions posed to the candidates.
1. What experience do you cite that best qualifies you to be Mississippi’s next Attorney General?
2. What would be your office’s primary focus during your first term? Civil or criminal.
3. As attorney general, what steps will you take to protect religious liberties in Mississippi?
4. What steps will you take to ensure free speech on the campuses of our state colleges?
5. What will you do to ensure equal rights for all Mississippians?
6. Is there any proposed or existing Mississippi law that you would not defend if challenged? If so, how would you handle that task?
7. What is the appropriate relationship between the Attorney General's office and Governor's office? And, if there are any conflicts, how do you intend to handle such conflicts?
8. Under what circumstances do you believe it is appropriate to hire outside counsel, and will you use a competitive and transparent process to do so?
9. What is your position on civil asset forfeiture
Posted below are the campaign finance reports for the three Republican candidates.
Mark Baker: $377,000 cash on hand
Lynn Fitch: $412,000 cash on hand
Andrew Taggart: $104,000 cash on hand
Sunday, June 16, 2019
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Trollfest '07 was such a success that Jackson Jambalaya will once again host Trollfest '09. Catch this great event which will leave NE Jackson & Fondren in flames. Othor Cain and his band, The Black Power Structure headline the night while Sonjay Poontang returns for an encore performance. Former Frank Melton bodyguard Marcus Wright makes his premier appearance at Trollfest singing "I'm a Sweet Transvestite" from "The Rocky Horror Picture Show." Kamikaze will sing his new hit, “How I sold out to da Man.” Robbie Bell again performs: “Mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be Bells” and “Any friend of Ed Peters is a friend of mine”. After the show, Ms. Bell will autograph copies of her mug shot photos. In a salute to “Dancing with the Stars”, Ms. Bell and Hinds County District Attorney Robert Smith will dance the Wango Tango.
Wrestling returns, except this time it will be a Battle Royal with Othor Cain, Ben Allen, Kim Wade, Haley Fisackerly, Alan Lange, and “Big Cat” Donna Ladd all in the ring at the same time. The Battle Royal will be in a steel cage, no time limit, no referee, and the losers must leave town. Marshand Crisler will be the honorary referee (as it gives him a title without actually having to do anything).
Meet KIM Waaaaaade at the Entergy Tent. For five pesos, Kim will sell you a chance to win a deed to a crack house on Ridgeway Street stuffed in the Howard Industries pinata. Don't worry if the pinata is beaten to shreds, as Mr. Wade has Jose, Emmanuel, and Carlos, all illegal immigrants, available as replacements for the it. Upon leaving the Entergy tent, fig leaves will be available in case Entergy literally takes everything you have as part of its Trollfest ticket price adjustment charge.
Donna Ladd of The Jackson Free Press will give several classes on learning how to write. Smearing, writing without factchecking, and reporting only one side of a story will be covered. A donation to pay their taxes will be accepted and she will be signing copies of their former federal tax liens. Ms. Ladd will give a dramatic reading of her two award-winning essays (They received The Jackson Free Press "Best Of" awards.) "Why everything is always about me" and "Why I cover murders better than anyone else in Jackson".
In the spirit of helping those who are less fortunate, Trollfest '09 adopts a cause for which a portion of the proceeds and donations will be donated: Keeping Frank Melton in his home. The “Keep Frank Melton From Being Homeless” booth will sell chances for five dollars to pin the tail on the jackass. John Reeves has graciously volunteered to be the jackass for this honorable excursion into saving Frank's ass. What's an ass between two friends after all? If Mr. Reeves is unable to um, perform, Speaker Billy McCoy has also volunteered as when the word “jackass” was mentioned he immediately ran as fast as he could to sign up.
In order to help clean up the legal profession, Adam Kilgore of the Mississippi Bar will be giving away free, round-trip plane tickets to the North Pole where they keep their bar complaint forms (which are NOT available online). If you don't want to go to the North Pole, you can enjoy Brant Brantley's (of the Mississippi Commission on Judicial Performance) free guided tours of the quicksand field over by High Street where all complaints against judges disappear. If for some reason you are unable to control yourself, never fear; Judge Houston Patton will operate his jail where no lawyers are needed or allowed as you just sit there for minutes... hours.... months...years until he decides he is tired of you sitting in his jail. Do not think Judge Patton is a bad judge however as he plans to serve free Mad Dog 20/20 to all inmates.
Trollfest '09 is a pet-friendly event as well. Feel free to bring your dog with you and do not worry if your pet gets hungry, as employees of the Jackson Zoo will be on hand to provide some of their animals as food when it gets to be feeding time for your little loved one.
Relax at the Fox News Tent. Since there are only three blonde reporters in Jackson (being blonde is a requirement for working at Fox News), Megan and Kathryn from WAPT and Wendy from WLBT will be on loan to Fox. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both and a torn-up Obama yard sign will entitle you to free drinks served by Megan, Wendy, and Kathryn. Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required. Just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '09 is for EVERYONE!!!
This is definitely a Beaver production.
Note: Security provided by INS.
Wrestling returns, except this time it will be a Battle Royal with Othor Cain, Ben Allen, Kim Wade, Haley Fisackerly, Alan Lange, and “Big Cat” Donna Ladd all in the ring at the same time. The Battle Royal will be in a steel cage, no time limit, no referee, and the losers must leave town. Marshand Crisler will be the honorary referee (as it gives him a title without actually having to do anything).
Meet KIM Waaaaaade at the Entergy Tent. For five pesos, Kim will sell you a chance to win a deed to a crack house on Ridgeway Street stuffed in the Howard Industries pinata. Don't worry if the pinata is beaten to shreds, as Mr. Wade has Jose, Emmanuel, and Carlos, all illegal immigrants, available as replacements for the it. Upon leaving the Entergy tent, fig leaves will be available in case Entergy literally takes everything you have as part of its Trollfest ticket price adjustment charge.
Donna Ladd of The Jackson Free Press will give several classes on learning how to write. Smearing, writing without factchecking, and reporting only one side of a story will be covered. A donation to pay their taxes will be accepted and she will be signing copies of their former federal tax liens. Ms. Ladd will give a dramatic reading of her two award-winning essays (They received The Jackson Free Press "Best Of" awards.) "Why everything is always about me" and "Why I cover murders better than anyone else in Jackson".
In the spirit of helping those who are less fortunate, Trollfest '09 adopts a cause for which a portion of the proceeds and donations will be donated: Keeping Frank Melton in his home. The “Keep Frank Melton From Being Homeless” booth will sell chances for five dollars to pin the tail on the jackass. John Reeves has graciously volunteered to be the jackass for this honorable excursion into saving Frank's ass. What's an ass between two friends after all? If Mr. Reeves is unable to um, perform, Speaker Billy McCoy has also volunteered as when the word “jackass” was mentioned he immediately ran as fast as he could to sign up.
In order to help clean up the legal profession, Adam Kilgore of the Mississippi Bar will be giving away free, round-trip plane tickets to the North Pole where they keep their bar complaint forms (which are NOT available online). If you don't want to go to the North Pole, you can enjoy Brant Brantley's (of the Mississippi Commission on Judicial Performance) free guided tours of the quicksand field over by High Street where all complaints against judges disappear. If for some reason you are unable to control yourself, never fear; Judge Houston Patton will operate his jail where no lawyers are needed or allowed as you just sit there for minutes... hours.... months...years until he decides he is tired of you sitting in his jail. Do not think Judge Patton is a bad judge however as he plans to serve free Mad Dog 20/20 to all inmates.
Trollfest '09 is a pet-friendly event as well. Feel free to bring your dog with you and do not worry if your pet gets hungry, as employees of the Jackson Zoo will be on hand to provide some of their animals as food when it gets to be feeding time for your little loved one.
Relax at the Fox News Tent. Since there are only three blonde reporters in Jackson (being blonde is a requirement for working at Fox News), Megan and Kathryn from WAPT and Wendy from WLBT will be on loan to Fox. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both and a torn-up Obama yard sign will entitle you to free drinks served by Megan, Wendy, and Kathryn. Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required. Just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '09 is for EVERYONE!!!
This is definitely a Beaver production.
Note: Security provided by INS.
Trollfest '07
Jackson Jambalaya is the home of Trollfest '07. Catch this great event which promises to leave NE Jackson & Fondren in flames. Sonjay Poontang and his band headline the night with a special steel cage, no time limit "loser must leave town" bout between Alan Lange and "Big Cat"Donna Ladd following afterwards. Kamikaze will perform his new song F*** Bush, he's still a _____. Did I mention there was no referee? Dr. Heddy Matthias and Lori Gregory will face off in the undercard dueling with dangling participles and other um, devices. Robbie Bell will perform Her two latest songs: My Best Friends are in the Media and Mama's, Don't Let Your Babies Grow up to be George Bell. Sid Salter of The Clarion-Ledger will host "Pin the Tail on the Trial Lawyer", sponsored by State Farm.
There will be a hugging booth where in exchange for your young son, Frank Melton will give you a loooong hug. Trollfest will have a dunking booth where Muhammed the terrorist will curse you to Allah as you try to hit a target that will drop him into a vat of pig grease. However, in the true spirit of Separate But Equal, Don Imus and someone from NE Jackson will also sit in the dunking booth for an equal amount of time. Tom Head will give a reading for two hours on why he can't figure out who the hell he is. Cliff Cargill will give lessons with his .80 caliber desert eagle, using Frank Melton photos as targets. Tackleberry will be on hand for an autograph session. KIM Waaaaaade will be passing out free titles and deeds to crackhouses formerly owned by The Wood Street Players.
If you get tired come relax at the Fox News Tent. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both will entitle you to free drinks.Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required, just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '07 is for EVERYONE!!!
This is definitely a Beaver production.
Note: Security provided by INS.
There will be a hugging booth where in exchange for your young son, Frank Melton will give you a loooong hug. Trollfest will have a dunking booth where Muhammed the terrorist will curse you to Allah as you try to hit a target that will drop him into a vat of pig grease. However, in the true spirit of Separate But Equal, Don Imus and someone from NE Jackson will also sit in the dunking booth for an equal amount of time. Tom Head will give a reading for two hours on why he can't figure out who the hell he is. Cliff Cargill will give lessons with his .80 caliber desert eagle, using Frank Melton photos as targets. Tackleberry will be on hand for an autograph session. KIM Waaaaaade will be passing out free titles and deeds to crackhouses formerly owned by The Wood Street Players.
If you get tired come relax at the Fox News Tent. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both will entitle you to free drinks.Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required, just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '07 is for EVERYONE!!!
This is definitely a Beaver production.
Note: Security provided by INS.
56 comments:
Having met all 3 candidates it appears we may have several good choices for AG. Will have to make time to watch the 1:12:48 vid provided and get some answers before making a decision on whom to vote for.
The first question is regarding civil asset forfeiture. While I’m as pro Law Enforcement as most and even more anti-thug than the vast majority, taking cash, cars, etc. from people that have not been convicted of a crime is about as anti-American as it comes. I personally could not care less about drug dealers and thugs but when we start down that slippery slope of allowing law enforcement be the police, the judge, the trial and the jury, all of our civil liberties are at stake.
The second question is regarding Trump. Too many “establishment” so-called Republicans i.e. RINO’s didn’t vote for Trump via either
a.) not choosing anyone,
b.) a write-in, or
c.) the worst of all, voted for Hillary, like those POS’s Bush’s and McCain’s.
If any of these candidates lacked enough God given common sense to be a hard core Trump supporter over Clinton, considering the SCOTUS and other court picks, free speech, 2A rights, etc. then they are too stupid and/or too arrogant to hold public office as a Republican…and we need to make certain voters know this so we all can do whatever possible to see that they never hold office with an R by his or her name.
Taggart should just post links to that all over the internet. Great showing by Andy. The loser is the no-show
Oh wow, Kingfish! I can NOT believe you are allowing comments on a thread that might result in something negative being said about Fitch. This is a FIRST!
She's a perpetual no-show because she knows she has nothing to offer other than a smile and a flip of the hair.
But, to those who did bother to appear: Taggart rambled on about the state flag which the office of AG has absolutely nothing to do with. I realize that was the question, but he (thankfully) lost votes in his rambling diatribe about that subject. Taggart simply wants a job. Any job.
Taggart has wanted to remain a political operative since his days on Fordice's coat-tails. But, he screwed the pooch with that fiasco in MadCo with D.I.Smith. He's toast.
Taggart brings so much more knowledge & professionalism to the table ... this shouldn’t be close, but Baker is beating all the drums, like “pro-life” (which will be decided by the Supreme Court, not by MS AG)
How does Mark Baker keep claiming "we have shrunken the size of government" (meaning the legislature)? The state general fund expenditures are up about 20% over the last 8 years. And that is on top of most folks not getting raises. So what shrunk?
Oh, I know, employees paychecks shrunk because the state passed through the increased cost of health insurance. But the size of state government? Somebody needs to call him out on that claim.
Mississippi incumbents never debate anyone!
Andy Taggard seems well prepared. Was impressed with his answers. Too bad Lynn Finch didn’t take the time to debate.
So we have one guy who wants to fight for the average citizen, and Baker who's worried about white shoe law firms and CEOs and the CCJ crowd. About what I figured after Phil and Tater's social climbing. The Rankin redneck to Madison Reunion pipeline. Baker sold out on every moral/ethical issue that the alt righties and Richie Riches could come up with. Kaching. Andy's rich, but Baker's bought. Clear choice. Taggart. Shocked to see Baker's BSing.
OK, I'll just say it. I have had Fitch. Facial. Fatigue. for the last several years.
It did not matter what type of commercial, whether college savings plans, long lost assets for Mississippians or anything else.
There she was All. the. Time. and her picture always took up at least half the commercial. Some of them were doctored up, or I guess the proper word now is airbrushed.
Mississippi needs more than a pretty face now, so you guys need to bring it.
@4:27. FYI there is no Incumbent. Jim Hood is running for Gov.
If Taggard wants to pander with the flag, I'll vote for Baker.
Taggart kept Hwy 463 from getting widened to 4 lanes out to Annandale and killed the reunion parkway interchange project as supervisor for Madison county. Mdot had funds to build both and Andy sent them (Mdot) packing. Great leadership Andy. I will vote for anyone running against him.
I am going to vote for Baker. Taggert is a has been that really never was.
Andy lost me vote the day he brought up the state flag. The voters are perfectly capable of deciding what flag they want. The issue is not complex nor is it an emergency. If they want to vote on it, fine with me. Just don't vote every year. Wait at least 25 years between votes. Any politician who wants to decide that issue FOR me, I won't support. The crazy thing is I have met Andy a couple of times and would have given him serious consideration but for this brain dead move.
All Baker knows to do it fall back on “Trump Conservative” and parrot all the crap he has heard from the big wig Rankin rednecks at the Capitol. The flag has absolutely nothing to do with the AG office but it will keep coming up and that is Bakers only hope.
1:46 is an idiot if he thinks a Mississippian’s vote in any presidential election matters at all.
“If you can’t debate, you don’t know Lynn Fitch.”
7:06—“I have no idea what AG means, so FLAG!”
The next AG will have zero input into the state flag.
So, maybe pick the best lawyer in the race to be the state’s lawyer?
Who is obviously Taggart. No contest.
Taggart is the only one you would want trying a case in court for you. Baker is a capable attorney but his arrogance is his undoing. I know, I have tried cases against him. My big question is, has Fitch ever even tried a case?
Not understanding Fitch's campaign strategy at all. I know many, many Republicans in Madison County and I'm not seeing or hearing any sort of buzz for her that would give any level of confidence that she's got this.
I've had interactions with Taggart. I'll vote for Fitch or Baker. Anyone but Taggart.
Taggart wants to fight another drug war. No thanks.
Andy is a nice guy but he is not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Every time I hear taggert or read something from taggert he talks about how awful the state flag is. I guess that let’s me know what he will be talking about and worrying about as AG. I’ll vote for someone else.
Baker would not have a chance against Taggart in any other state but Mississippi. But this is Mississippi
You think Fitch is noticing that the conversation is about Baker and Taggart? Who is running her campaign?
Taggart was a die-hard John Kasich fan even after the Ohio wonder boy burned out his flickering candle.
And this: "..this shouldn’t be close, but Baker is beating all the drums, like “pro-life” (which will be decided by the Supreme Court, not by MS AG. June 16, 2019 at 2:55 PM"
What drum would you have him beat, 2:55? People vote for those who most closely think like they do. It's more than fair to get a candidate's opinion and thoughts on a wide variety of subjects that have nothing to do with the actual job at hand. Besides, AG is typically a stepping stone job and we have a right to know the candidates' position on everything.
And while you were cheerleading (in your post) for Taggart, you failed to mention his fiasco with Smith in the MadCo Supervisor election a few years back. That speaks specifically to underhanded politics, not to mention shady character.
In summary, it's MY believe that Taggart is merely struggling for relevance.
Lynn Fitch has missed two bond payments during her term in office. I just wonder what would happen if she missed a court deadline for filing a response. When she refinanced some bonds about two years ago Morgan Stanley (the company refinancing the bonds) sent her the required paperwork to fill out. One of the questions was "has the State of Mississippi ever missed a bond payment. Her response was "NO". It took the Governor and Attorney General to call her and force the Treasurer to change the answer from No to YES. Do we want this kind of person for AG? Look closely at her finance reports. You will see contributions from trial lawyers. Mike Moore and Jim Hood want her in the AG's office so they can have control! Anybody but Lynn Fitch.
@8:01AM, as terribly disappointing as John Kasich has turned out to be, the question we really need answered is:
Did Taggart voted for Trump in the general election, or did he not?
If he didn’t, this is all any Republican, Conservative or Libertarian should need to know. If Taggart did vote for Trump in the general, then he should have about as good a change to be elected AG as the other two, except maybe in Madison County where some might still have a problem with the D I Smith stunt.
MS has a unique ability to shoot itself in the foot on anything that suggest we let go of the old south traditions. Our "flagship" university leads the charge and produces most of the attorneys and politicians that keep it going. The flag is way past time for change and if state leadership had a set they would just make it happen. Letting the public vote on that is not required. The fact that it is a hot button is embarrassing enough...
Imagine the furniture she could buy for the AG's office though. If Haley were not spending so much time carrying the water for Nic Lott (suddenly), he could be carrying it for Fitch. Can't the boy carry two buckets at the same time?
Mike Moore and his cronies are behind Lynn Fitch. The Dorsey Law firm gave money to her campaign. Trial lawyers are going to love having Fitch as AG!
This race is unfortunately probable going to be a toss-up.
Lynn refuses to debate--even after Taggart challenged her to a series of debates. It is MY opinion that she is running for AG to help her continue to climb a ladder. That's just my thoughts. I DO know that she's actively saying she's "Jim Hood's pick" as his predecessor. not surprising. Check out her campaign finance reports. Quite interesting to see her supporters. She seems to be using the same strategy as Sam Britton and Tate Reeves--let's not acknowledge that we have Republican opponents. And let's not show up for most forums or debates. i dont understand. Candidates should be transparent and let the voters know why they're running and what their platforms/policies are.
Mark Baker is a great lawyer and his tenacity would make him a good AG. Unfortunately personality does matter and his is not too great. He seems to be rude to people who can't financially support him or they're not "someone" in society's circles. His attitude and arrogance made him lose any support that I was giving him. I have several friends who feel the same way.
Andy Taggart should not have ever brought the state flag issue into his campaign. Ultimately, in 2001, 65% of Mississippians voted to keep the flag as is. The AG's office has no power to change the flag and the legislature is NOT going to touch it. They will let the people decide. I am sure that change is coming in this area, but it isn't a good platform to run an AG campaign on.
Personally, I'll be voting for Taggart. While I don't agree with his view on the flag; as AG, he cannot change that anyway. He is passionate about being AG, he wants to see that office changed and he has a clear vision for the future. Also, personality, attitude and genuineness will sometimes win votes and in this instance--his won my vote.
I nominate 9:24 to run for something.
@10:30, that is a possibility one day! But it will be a while...I would love to know who you are but since we are all anonymous here that has to be kept a secret!
Lynn Fitch has smeared her plastic face all over Treasury promotions. She is all a/b self promotion and she is Hood's chosen (check her finance reports - lots of $ coming from Mike Moore and Co). If she gets the AG job, she'd likely miss a deadline for filing a response in the same way she missed bond payments for the state. All you have is teeth and hair. Go home, honey.
I will vote for Taggart. I appreciate his transparency to change the flag, albeit the AG has nothing to do with that. He is a practicing attorney that has tried cases and is knowledgeable in his speech. Baker has less of those two, Fitch has zero.
If Fitch is Jim Hood's candidate, that tells me all I need to know. She's in the plaintiff lawyers' pocket, and I'll be voting fir Baker or Taggart.
Vote for Baker, he will do more than talk about the State
Flag and Drugs. These are important but so are other
Issues. Vote Baker
Unless one of the Republican candidates publicly denounces Trump as the egotistical liar he is, he/she will not get my vote.
Looking at the slates of candidates for every statewide race from Governor on down ought to give a good indication of why Mississippi is last or nearly so in every good metric and first or nearly so in every bad metric. Looking at the potentially viable candidates in those races ought to just about cement those indications. With the possible exception of Bill Waller, every viable candidate is both unsuited and unfit for the positions they seek.
If I were 30 years younger, I'd have been gone 5 years ago and we get closer to throwing in the towel with each passing month. Nearly every month, one or more friends tells us about their kids leaving the state and ours never seriously considered remaining in Mississippi. We are blessed with relatively good life and lifestyle as well as a largish social circle and my general impression is that of the middle-aged and older members of that circle, those with college-age or older children who plan to make their lives away from Mississippi now significantly outnumber those whose children plan to make Mississippi their long-term/permanent home. I know several members of the boomer generation of a large long-time Mississippi family who have about 10 20-30 year old children among them. Not a single one of the kids lives in Mississippi and none apparently have any interest in returning. Yes, all of my personal observations are anecdotal, but based on the reporting I've seen it is in-line with the actual numbers of young people leaving Mississippi versus staying in the state. Not that this will shock anyone, but Mississippi is in deep, deep trouble.
Baker is the only candidate with a conservative voting record to back the rhetoric. Other 2 candidates are complete guesses on their actual opinions, but it should be fun watching Taggart/Fitch knock each other out in a pander-off for irrelevant Madison. Vote Baker
both of these clowns should thank god everyday that the third world republic[an] of mississippi exists cause neither could make it anywhere other than this federal government welfare state.
Baker’s ad says he is a “Trump conservative.” Does that mean he is a liar? And an egomaniac? And a mental midget who only knows about 8 words?
8:41 AM, it seems like Andy admitted publicly that he would be writing in his uncle in Arkansas in the Presidential election. Unless he's changed his mind for political expedience, he's a hard core never-Trumper.
Somebody said Taggart's personality won him over. Holy Schmoly, I have no further comment!
@4:23PM, if we can get proof Andy didn’t vote Trump, he will not only not get my vote, I will do everything I can to make sure as many voters as possible are made aware that Andy was more willing to have
an Anti-2nd Amendment believer in Government Funded/Late Term Baby Killing/Clinton as Prez instead of
a man/Trump who made it clear enough even to evangelicals who his SCOTUS picks would be…so much so that he got their support.
One can only imagine the 2 SCOTUS picks we would have gotten had Clinton been elected.
There is absolutely no excuse for being this stupid and/or this pro-establishment and any Repub with any age knows this is a violation of Reagan’s 11th Commandment.
I would have voted for any of the Repubs in the general but supported Trump in the primary because you didn’t need a whole lot of sense to know he was the only candidate out of the bunch that would get in the trenches with the slime ball left.
We didn’t need another pussy footing Romney or McCain type. We needed someone who would go for the jugular vein…and that’s exactly what Trump did… and that’s why leftist hate him so much…and the more they hate Trump, the more we should love him.
12:50 makes a good point, once my wife starts collecting her 13th check we are leaving too.
"...once my wife starts collecting her 13th check we are leaving too."
12:50 responding. The potential trollish nature of your comment aside, it is an interesting comment on several levels even if you didn't mean it to be. The first, purely subjective, is that I really didn't even consider such things as PERS in my initial post because the majority of our immediate social circle is not retired nor works for any local or state government entities. I am business friends and acquaintances with a reasonable number of people who do and now that I think about it, I can think of (now-former) business acquaintances who have retired and either moved completely out of the state or spend the vast majority of their time and more importantly to the state, money, elsewhere. I can also think of a handful who had their 20-30 years of state employment and then moved to LA, AL, TN, etc., for the remainder of their careers. I cannot speak for them but I do not see many if any returning to Mississippi. But the big problem for PERS and the state would seem to be the "brain drain" as they call it, with its resultant dearth of capable young people staying, working for government entities, and if nothing else supplying PERS with new money. At worst, what Mississippi is rapidly winding up with is a labor force many or most of who simply have no "market value" outside of government entity employment _in Mississippi only_ (i.e., they are not truly qualified for much so no entities in other states and certainly no private employer would recruit, desire, or hire them). That can only lead to an accelerating downward spiral. I say again, Mississippi is in deep, deep trouble and the more one thinks about it, the deeper it seems.
@7:25AM, why is Mississippi in deep, deep trouble?
HAS LYNN FITCH EVER TRIED A CASE?
June 18, 2019 at 8:03 AM asked, "Why is Mississippi in deep, deep trouble?"
Well, for starters, people ask questions like that.
You may call it Trolling, I am just telling it like it is. We have already bought our house in a neighboring state where our son lives. Once she qualifies in about 3:years, we are out of here.
The cost of living is cheaper here, but the quality of life is at or below 0.
Baker's AG goals, as spelled out in his ad on this website:
1. End taxation by litigation and public lawsuit abuse. Jim Hood’s no-bid/no-lose contingency fee lawsuits have paid lawyers over one hundred million dollars. That must stop.
2. Defend our recently passed fetal heartbeat bill that bans abortions after a heartbeat is detected. We need an Attorney General who’s willing to fight that all the way to the Supreme Court and win!
3. Fight to keep ‘In God We Trust’ on our state license plates and in our state seal.
4. Work to ensure voters decide the fate of our state flag, not politicians in Jackson.
5. Protect our constitutional rights and liberties, including our 2nd Amendment rights and our religious freedoms.
6. Fight public corruption.
7. Partner with President Trump to take on illegal immigration,
8. Stand up against increasing federal government overreach into matters we should decide here in Mississippi.
1. The MS budget would have been in much poorer shape without Hood's lawsuits. While Baker has a law degree, one must wonder if he knows how contingency fees work. While the lawyers handling the cases did get large fees, MS got the rest. How exactly is MS getting hundreds of millions of dollars, while not outlaying any money a bad thing?
2. Yay! Useless pandering drivel. So Baker is against the AG's office recouping money for MS, but is perfectly fine with pissing away money on pandering issue. That's that true conservative mindset.
3. More pandering. Somehow we survived for 135 years without "In God we Trust" on the State seal until the brave panderers in the legislature rescued us from certain doom in 2014. Call me crazy, but shouldn't the State Seal have the State Motto on it? Virtute et Armis? While "By valor and arms" doesn't make much sense in a State context, it at least is the motto. As for the car tags, everyone hates the new ones, which is the one with "In God we Trust" on it. Again, somehow we survived all these years without that. And who, exactly, is coming to get our car tags and state seal?
4. 3rd pandering "point". Does Baker even know what being AG entails? Dealing with the flag ain't in the job description. But it is funny to see him disparage those "politicians in Jackson" all while being one.
5. 4th pandering "point". Does he even know there are other constitutional rights than the 2nd? I doubt it.
6. Finally, something connected to the AG's actual job, but considering he's a Rankinite, I'd imagine his idea of public corruption is different than most.
7. 5th pandering point. In any other time in our Republic, publicly supporting someone like Trump would be political suicide. Alas. Someone please get him a globe so he can see what MS borders. I'd ask that someone explain that immigration is Federal power, but I can only hope for so much.
8. 6th pandering "point". Federal overreach. You mean like how 40% of the State budget is from Federal money? Or how every time there is a natural disaster MS goes begging the Federal government?
So 8 points, 6 of which are utter nonsense, 1 of which is just plain stupid and the shortest one is the only one that remotely touches on the job he's running for. Can we start over and get someone with sense and actual experience to run?
Candidates and voters can do whatever they wish with the following and I fully expect most to ignore it or take it with a large grain of salt.
While I'd offer that Trump's chances in 2020 are significantly better than many might wish or imagine, it is still a real toss-up as to whether any of these "Trump conservatives" (whatever the hell that is supposed to be) will get an opportunity to work with him in a second term. I voted for him in a contest between him and Hilary and did so with my eyes and mind wide open, knowing the man and his proclivities very well. But no one will be forced into that choice in 2020.
It is clear to me that all of these candidates who claim such kinship with Trump do not have the slightest idea of how he thinks or how he feels about people like them. Let me help: he does his best to avoid people like them and when forced to associate to further what he perceives as his own interests, he hates every millisecond of that forced association. He doesn't "hate" them but he just thinks they are white trash nobodies "who have no class." I would add, for both them and Trump, that there are none so blind as those who refuse to see.
The real problem for them, however, is that those who Trump truly listens to on any level, particularly Jared and Ivanka, are hard-core New York urbanites who think they are all racist redneck white trash, beyond contempt, and want nothing to do with them for almost any reason, even if it is completely self-serving. Donald Jr., on the other hand, is actually a bit of what his family and peers would call "a redneck" (at least around the edges and in the way only a Trump, born-wealthy NYC'er could ever be), which his why his father, sister, Kushner in-laws, and those to whom they listen really do not take him very seriously or show him any real respect.
The bottom line is that five minutes after the 2020 election, Trump and his family will have absolutely no further use for anyone, elected official or voter, in Mississippi and any AG, governor, lt. gov, congress member, etc., from a state like Mississippi who claims they are lined up to "work with Trump" on anything is a liar or an idiot. See Phil Bryant and especially Dane Maxwell as exhibits A and B.
@1:29PM, be sure to vote Trump again with your eyes and mind wide open, knowing the man and his proclivities very well, because unless something changes he's the far better choice over leftist lunatics.
While I don't know Mark Baker, I do know Andy Taggart and Lynn Fitch personally. Andy is a far superior attorney and clearly the better choice for AG between those two. Lynn is just trying to move up the political ladder, while Andy is truly trying to make a difference. He doesn't need the job, but is willing to offer himself for public service to better our State. I appreciate his offer of service and intend to give him my vote.
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