Lost Pizza Company in Maywood Mart suddenly closed today. The pizzeria posted this message on Facebook:
Yup, $40 per square foot will cause a few non-renewals.All we are sad to say that Lost Pizza Jackson is no longer operating as of today June 25, 2019. Our lease term is up at Maywood Mart and we have opted to not renew the lease. Our intention was to operate through Sunday June 30, but due to the severity and damage caused by a break-in robbery last night we are forced to close immediately.
We will be moving to a new location TBD. This was a very difficult decision and we want to thank all of our loyal customers that have supported us over the past 5 years. You are all awesome and we hope that you will continue to enjoy Lost Pizza at any, or ALL of our 3 other Jackson Metro locations (Ridgeland, Flowood, and Brandon). Lost Pizza Ridgeland is only 6 miles away from Lost Pizza Jackson located at 500 HWY 51 Ridgeland, MS 39157.
63 comments:
So rich and vibrant.
Jackson loses another tax paying business to black crime. Add another sacrifice to the altar of leftist egalitarianism.
Another Everybody vs Jackson, hate-filled comment section coming right up. Nothing can be said that hasn’t been said a thousand times.
You are right Kingfish. I'm sure the shitty complainers trying to get a free meal and lousy tipping clientele had nothing to do with it.
So, locations such as Ridgeland, Oxford, Southaven, Tupelo, Brandon, and Collierville are doing fine. But the Jackson store is not profitable, and then they get broken into and vandalized as the last straw?
So can anyone tell me what's so different about this location? I thought that was a "good neighborhood"?
I look forward to its newest location in the city of Madison (you know it will happen).
@12:49
You are exactly right because this is the same exact pattern that happens to so many businesses in Jackson. Literally since the first purse theft at the Jackson Mall and people quit shopping. Later you had gangs roaming the concourses of Metro Center. Now look at Northpark. It spreads like a cancer. Everywhere people try to build something nice, parasites follow and tear it down. Not just in Jackson either.
The FB comments on this are GOLD! From "if you aren't from Jackson, then you have no comments" to "the business's that leave behind vacant spaces should be held accountable". Soon all the #onlyinjackson crowd will be left with #notmuchinjackson.
Yup. Blame black crime.
Guess you didn't read the whole thing or more likely, ignored it.
The company is moving out in one week due to the lease expiration. New York has been running MM rents around $40 per square foot. Renaissance prices. Same thing with Highland Village. In case you haven't noticed, quite a few businesses have moved out because of the high rent. Remember the crap New York tried to pull on Pizza Hut? Others have moved out because New York was slow or wouldn't fix property defects.
If that business had another six months or more on the lease, it would have probably stayed open.
That business would be gone in seven days anyway but yeah, blame crime for making it leave Jackson.
That $40 sf included sense of security?
Kingfish beat me to it, the landlord screwed this one up. There is demand in that area for a Lost Pizza for sure and I bet they'll be back in a spot close by.
Kingfish,
And yet the video of the crime, the smashed glass, stolen money, and busted POS terminals are a reality. It happens almost every week it seems. You often report it yourself.
It is possible to be both objective and honest.
Having done business with these "out of state" property managers, I can't blame them for leaving over those prices. They are making money hand over fist, and everyone else suffers for it
LOL all you haters and losers (of which, sadly, there are many) will continue to come eat and shop in Jackson when you get tired of the 10 same restaurants in Madison. Yeah I see your Madison tags on your leased BMWs in the Whole Foods parking lot.
The whole world is a band of mercenaries. Everyone out for himself, trying to squeeze every bit of profit out of something, long term health be damned. A NY hedge fund buys up several Jackson shopping centers, bleeds all of the tenants dry, and dumps it once everyone leaves. I'm not a socialist, but rapacious capitalism is not a good thing.
Ahh yes, everything in Madison/Gluckstadt thrives, and never shuts down ever!
See:
Hops and Habanas
Circle 7
Paul Anthony's
ETC.
KF is correct. The Hardware store in that mall closed down for the same reason. But, also crime has it effect on the business too. Or can I say "The straw that broke the camels back".
Yea, @ June 25, 2019 at 12:47 PM, because we all know, white folks do NOT commit crime and there's total truth in arresting and reporting their crimes, when they do... LMAO!!! ;-D
It's probably just as well, as the majority of the reviews on "Yelp" are not very complimentary.
PS "Deep dish" 'pizza' is not pizza. That's like saying that chow mein is Chinese food.
Kingfish you are one degree of separation off the mark: You are right that crime isn't why it closed. Crime is why it can't afford $40 rent.....which is why it closed.
Sorry to see them leave.
Nice people and good food.
Wonder what Hutto's secret is?????
Some local people approached NY about buying MM. New York wouldn't even return their calls.
I heard Maywood mart was going to increase there rent.
Ok, let me rephrase my comment. If places like renaissance are getting $40/ft rent, you think there is a reason they don't think MM is worth it? Amenities, functioning infrastructure, low crime(black, white, Cuban, or Asian-Will Smith). Those reasons above are why nothing as nice will be moving in replace it. They don't think $40/ft is worth it in that area. I don't blame them.
There used to be a western store right along in there, cant recall name but was the place to go Christmas shopping. My grandmother bought me my first down jacket in there and a pocket knife. The coat looked like a big butter bean (1980's) alas it was obviously a better time which cant be argued.
Let's not forget the parking lot restriping they totally screwed up. Rent is probably what ran them out but as a customer of Lost Pizza, I must say this location didn't really have their customer service act together.
Filiup by Billups just closed also. Madison is no restaurant haven. Enjoy the Strawberry Cafe every night, or a chain place.
In that area $40/SF has little return on investment. At Colony Park, yes.
But, back to the posted notice: "All we..." - What the hell does that mean?
I know the owners of four businesses that have left MM in the last six or seven years. Each told me it was because of the very high rent combined with the arrogance of the owners and their reluctance or slowness to fix such basic problems as leaky roofs, electrical hazards, etc. None of them mentioned crime. Yes, it is a high rent place to open a business, but the little things like unreturned calls and slow maintenance really is the salt in the wound for most renters.
Quit playing stupid games, Kingfish. You know damned well everything revolves around black crime. Quite pandering to the 13% black group of your readers.
Maywood was increasing the rent. That’s the reason 5 businesses have closed or moved. If you had a 25% rent increase you would consider it also. My problem is that they will get McDades/new owners and run them out. Think about it, if your lease went from $3000 to $4000 wouldn’t you consider it? And by the way 3 businesses within 600 yards of there were broken into over the last 3 weeks. Ask Hibbitt Sports about their shoe theft. If you don’t run off the interstate people your going to lose more tenants in that area.
This is all "Lost Pizza's" fault. They obviously did not read the rental agreement and assumed $40.00 a foot included security. It would take a deaf, dumb and blind security guard not to have at least intervened. I am pretty sure JPD got there within 45 minutes of the break-in, which to JPD's credit did not result in any loss of life.
If those idiots think Maywood Mart is worth $40 a foot in rent, Charles Stokes needs to get his ass down their and re-appraise the value of that sucker. I suspect their assessed value on the tax rolls is far less than the New Yorkers value in their head. Fair's fair.
Anyone from out of state that is buying retail property to rent in Jackson is looking for tax losses. No one in right mind would try to make money in Jackson buying stores to rent.
No realistic or material offers have ever been made to the current owners of Maywood Mart.
And just 100 yards away you can watch the bearded drunk homeless guy laying on the ground with his pants around his ankles pissing himself. Another 50 yards you can watch the locals going into a dumpster enclosure to take their morning shit. Great area. And yes. I’m a business owner in that area.
Pretty clear that NY is not paying to censor comments like other clients on this blog.
Attn 6:20 P.M. You are more stupid than Kennef Stokes if you think there are people buying property for tax losses. I went through graduate school and never saw a viable reason to buy a dying asset. It was referred to as "catching a falling knife". Please explain if you have the knowledge to explain this misnomer. If not, keep your stupid mouth shut.
Fill up by Billup in Madison closed because nobody knew what in the hell it was due to the fancy sign on the fancy brick facade. The one in Biloxi is really good and and the building inside and out looks like a 50's style diner, but branding is impossible in Madison. The Madison one just looked like another strip joint tenant, albeit a very nice strip joint.
I ate at the one in Biloxi exactly a week ago and it was very good.
June 25, 2019 at 4:08 PM Fillups problem was they used the same lame waitstaff as Bacchus. We had a waitress one night at Bacchus and she was slow, didn't check on us much, and didn't refill drinks or ask if we wanted to order more alcohol. Well, imagine my surprise when our first rip to Fillups was the same waitress. And, I may have gotten one coffee refill that morning. Most people are willing to forgive small things when customer service is on point.
That and they did little to no advertising or promotions in this area. Lastly, if you are known for 6 inch high biscuits then maybe you shouldn't run out of them on a Sunday morning. They really need to cut the bushes down between the main road and the liquor store and restaurant and allow them to put street-level signs up. That will help whoever decides to give that location a go next time.
8:56...lesson learned, just open in Biloxi or Oxford or Hattiesburg or Starkville or Ocean Springs.
Madison restaurants draw staff from the same pool as the rest of the metro. And they can't brand themselves. Just generic mall fronts. Hell, you can't tell Best Buy from Belk or Vanity Fair in Madison. Burger King looks every bit as nice as Bonefish from the outside. And you are likely to have similar staff.
You only got one coffee refill? That's two coffees. Damn! And you also wanted 'more alcohol'? How long did you sit there and shoot the shit? Sounds like you'd be more suited for Shuckers. All you gotta do is tell her to 'bring me one every nineteen minutes, please'.
Kingfish's theory on square footage will fall apart when these same places move north and pay the same or higher per square foot. Business traffic doesn't respond to cost per square foot. But it does respond to crime, venue, appearance and the perception of safety.
Anyone know how Froogles is liking it/doing at MM?
Fillups with billups started out great. Then the wait staff turned 100% ghetto and the service turned horrible. The poor service is what did them in.
Agreed @8:56 on the service at Fillup with Billups. I went 3 times and enjoyed the food, but the service is what kept me from being a regular. Just very poor service.
Funny to me how everyone changed their tune once Kingfish mentioned that high ass rent. Lol Y'all are so funny.
Billups didn’t have strawberry jelly/jam. They had that weird sauce they’d give you that looked like it was used for milkshakes.
June 25, 2019 at 4:16 PM
I believe they intended the "All" as a salutation:
"All: We are sad to say. . ."
It stuck me as odd phraseology as well, I had to look at it a couple of times myself.
Billups service was horrendous. The food was good but the staff was absent.
Customer service is bad when businesses hire lazy freeloaders who don't have any work ethic. They are used to the "free shit" and just want to hang out and sleep in every day.
My SIL is VP of a national corporation that hires above minimum wage for entry level blue-collar positions.
The majority of their applicants just want to "check off the box" indicating that they "applied" for a job, but don't want a job.
They also drug test their applicants, many of whom don't show up. Gee, I wonder why?
The next one to go in MM will be that pie shop. High rent will kill it too.
$40 rent is MORE than Renaissance or Highland Village (another similar landlord story there!) or The District!
There is nothing wrong with Madison's 10 restaurants. I wished we could get the Frog Head Grill to come here.
Rent aside, their customer service was terrible. When your beer and pizza isn’t anything special, your service better be. Doesn’t surprise me they are closed.
I'd like to see some photos of this alleged severe break-in. Otherwise the timing is very suspicious and it looks like they are just trying to get a dig in on Jackson or fishing for a less embarrassing reason for going out of business...
8:08 with the crazy-assed screen name - Please see post at 3:45 that counters your square footage bullshit. I doubt you even understand square footage as applies to rental space.
I live in Madison. Where are these 10 restaurants? Also, anybody been to the Wendy's or Popeyes? The carpeting in both just smells to high heaven.
12:23 - Look past the carpeting and check out the help. You'll see them later if you visit Burger King or Taco Bell. In Canton.
2:08 PM, I'm not sure what your point is. Yes, people who live in Madison occasionally come into Jackson for shopping or dining. That doesn't mean they want to live there. The "haters" you reference don't want to live in Jackson for a variety of reason including taxes, utilities, crime, schools, etc. That doesn't mean they won't ever cross the city line to eat, shop, go to a concert, whatever.
@12:23 AM - you need to get out more. BK and Taco Bell are not restaurants. Oh wait, you can't find 10 "fast food" joints in Madison. Maybe you should move to Canton.
8:49; There are at least 20 fast food venues in Madison if you look past the end of your nose. And, yes, you'll need to count places like Penn's, Kroger Deli, C-stores that sell hot pizza, the joint inside W-Mart, The Worm Emporium in the W-mart fishing pole area (if you like calamari) and many other white table cloth venues off the beaten path.
There is life beyond the Nabs and spit-cup on your truck console.
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