Clinton Mayor Phil Fisher issued the following statement:
As Mayor, I am exercising my veto authority with regard to the ordinance passed at the September 19, 2023 Clinton, MS Board of Aldermen meeting, which adopted a new ward map for the city. I do not believe the ward map that was adopted is in the best interest of the city, for several reasons. This plan will effectively disenfranchise the residents of Cascades, many of whom are elderly and have lived and voted in the same ward for nearly 40 years. Additionally, I do not believe some of the Aldermen voting for this ordinance have the best interests of the city as their primary motivation and, instead, are motivated by personal benefit and electoral gain.
The Clinton Board of Aldermen voted 4-3 to accept a redistricting plan submitted by the NAACP and rejected six plans drafted by the Central Mississippi Planning and Development District. The vote was somewhat controversial as three Republicans voted with the Democrat Alderman to approve the plan. The maps and video of discussion are posted below.
The Board voted on the first two maps posted below.
24 comments:
they all look about the same.
Ouch. Can the alderman get Chowke to veto their mayor's veto?
Ok? It's still Clinton.
Pretty colors
Grandstanding. Right before the vote 3 Alderman said the maps needed more discussion. The Mayor and 4 other Aldernab insisted on voting.
"I do not believe some of the Aldermen voting for this ordinance have the best interests of the city as their primary motivation and, instead, are motivated by personal benefit and electoral gain." Isn't that the primary function of any elected official. Me first, Fuck the rest of you.
“three Republicans voted with the Democrat Alderman to approve the plan.”
The Republican majority in the Mississippi legislature voted for a 2 Democrat 1 Republican sponsored pro-deadbeat tenant landlord law.
Republicans are always so ready to be “bipartisan,” but it’s never the other way around, and Democrats laugh their asses off at the DA Republicans that take the bait.
Republicans; they’re aren’t called the stupid party - for no reason.
P.S. Congrats on having guts Mayor. You just postponed Jacktown style destruction of Clinton.
The alderman or woman at large should have abstained. Something fishy can be derived from that.
Oh, no, no, no, no, nononono, no. You have the untrammeled temerity, Mr Mayor, to buck the NAACP? This will not go well, oh, no, indeed.
Clinton resident here. Glad to see this. I expect a lot more citizen participation at the next few meetings (which is great).
It's also fascinating that we generally accept that political interests are divided among demographic lines... some food for thought.
Good job, Mayor Fisher. Forget the ignorant of the process comments you might read hear from the folks who like to bloviate without knowing the background or the legal process. (Yes, they did insist on voting; yes they knew that there were three that were going to vote against and four that were going to vote for --- but, they also knew that a four vote majority was subject to a veto that took five votes to overturn. And they only have four.)
Yes, its not just the lone Democrat that three Repubs voted with - it was the goal of the three repubs to gut the districts of their opposition on the board. Power play by Miss Alderman-at-large wanna be Mayor. Worked in the short-term but the others were playing for the long-term; and allowing true colors to be shown.
Again, good job Mayor - and glad to some a Mayor that understands the legal authority of a veto and how to weild it properly. (from a resident of the City with Soul, where our Mayor thinks he can veto anything, anytime - damn them damn rules.)
NAACP - lawsuit up
8:17 - State your case. On what basis? Will the NAACP challenge the mayor's right to veto or the alderpersons' party affiliation.
@8:17 - yes, the NAACP, along with their buddies - the SPLC, and of course can;t omit Sista' Rukia from the Bold new City/New Afrika along with her followings. To them, we should ignore the rules of procedure which allows for a veto over a 4-3 vote (unlike Lumumba and his astute legal advisors who think a Mayor should be able to veto anything) - yes, the NAACP that claims everything under the Biden Administration allows for anything to be litigated under the clock of 'color' ----
but, they will fail. Even in this enlightened new governance we live, there is still a rule of law.
And, Mayor Fisher ain't no nubie to the game. He vetoed a 4-3. Rickie and her buddies tried to play their hand but their three of a kind was beat by four Kings ---- plus an Ace.
Y’all gone piss Phil off enough to run again in 2025. One can only hope.
Thank you Mayor Fisher for doing what is best for the city!
@5:48 We can only hope he will run again!! I think the 3 republicans have shown their true colors! Pay attention people of Clinton!
Ricki Garrett, Jim Martin and Beverly Oliver republicans?? What a joke!!
Ricki Garrett, Jim Martin, and Beverly Oliver aren't really republicans, but they are moles for the woke left.
9:10 pm
Since when did the naacp need a basis for filing a lawsuit other than we are the naacp
The NAACP map looks pretty good. All of its wards are closest to the ideal ward size than any other map. It is the only map that doesn't have a ward that is more than 100 voters different than the ideal size. Also, it is the only map that has any wards, it has 2, that are closer than 10 voters to the ideal size. There is one ward that is exactly 10 voters from ideal. And, there is one map that has 4 wards that have more than 100 voters different from the ideal size. Statistically, the NAACP map is nice and tight.
What is the mayor's problem with that map? I guarantee they won't get sued over it.
The board, the mayor, the voters, they can all do whatever they want. In the final say, it's going to be some fedjudge or a bureaucrat lawyer from DOJ that will decree what is or is not going to be.
@1:30 - there is a hell of a lot of other things that go into drawing a proper map than just the deviation. You are focusing only on the deviation (which I have not looked at, and for that matter, don't intend to) but I will point out all the other matters that are to be considered, in a redistricting case
Communities of Interest - not dividing up neighborhoods and locality
Interests of incumbants
Maintaining voters previous situation
Demographic distribution
Locality corrolation
Depending on what the city established in their original statement of intent, these and other things are to be considered other than just 'deviation'. As long as the deviation is with a plus/minus 5%, there is no consideration to be given to which one is 'the closest'. All the other issues are to take precedence.
But - thank you for trying to muddy the water; whether you really know what you are talking about (which you may well be, and are just ignoring these other issues) or whether you are just a good keyboard warrior for Ricki and the NAACP, it doesn't matter. Your point is not what will allow any lawsuit to stand. Beside - what would be the lawsuit? The Mayor exercised his allowable power. There is no requirement to accept any of these plans - even the one you think is so perfect that moves Cascades out of its traditional ward into Ricki's favored area.
Fisher's only real reason for opposing Map 7 is that it could put another Black alderman in power, in a city that more than 40 percent Black. That's ... pretty much it.
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