Wednesday, September 13, 2023

Trash Talk: RFP? What RFP?

Jackson Mayor Chokwe Antar Lumumba refuses to issue another request for proposals for garbage collection even though the current contract with Richard's Disposal expires in a little over six months.

 

Ward 1 Councilman Ashby Foote asked when the Lumumba administration would issue another RFP for garbage collection.  Mr. Foote said he did not want to see the city go without garbage service again as it did earlier this year.   Ward 2 Councilwoman Angelique Lee echoed his sentiments, saying she did not want to "wait til the last minute" again.  

 


Mayor Lumumba was absent but City Attorney Tori Martin said the administration had not even "discussed" issuing an RFP.  She said the city could not issue another RFP because Richard's Disposal is suing the city over the current RFP in Hinds County Circuit Court. JJ reported on April 10: 

Richard's Disposal filed a notice of appeal and complaint against the Jackson City Council in Hinds County Circuit Court this afternoon.  The case is assigned to Circuit Judge Adrienne Wooten.  

The New Orleans company asked the court to reverse the City Council's rejection of the company's proposal for garbage collection services.  The complaint states: 

2. The City Council's decision must be overturned because (1) the decision to not approve the contract between the City and RDI is not supported by substantial evidence in that Richard's submitted the most qualified proposal based on the factors in the October 2021 RFP; (2) The Council's decision was arbitrary and capricious as it violates clear statutory requirements; (3) the Council's decision was beyond its scope or powers in that it violates clear statutory requirements; and (4) the Council's decision violated clear statutory requirements for public procurement of garbage and solid waste services.

The complaint argues the Council voted for the "twice-per-week" garbage collection option at the lowest price.  Mayor Lumumba selected Richard's Disposal for the new contract.  However, the Council rejected the contract.  The Mayor issued an emergency no-bid one-year contract to the company that was later ruled to be invalid. The contract expired April 1, 2023.  

Richard's Disposal accused the Council of acting "arbitrary and capricious" in rejecting the contract. 

Oddly enough, Ms. Martin said the complaint was a "Bill of Exceptions." The city was at the Court's mercy as he could rule on the case at any time, insinuating he could take as long as he wanted to adjudicate the dispute. 

The opposing parties are skirmishing over the record of appeal. 


A visibly frustrated Council moved on to the rest of the agenda.

Kingfish note: Uh-huh.  The city can revoke or cancel the old RFP at any time as it is master of the offer. 

 

 

52 comments:

Anonymous said...

Was Chowke in Detroit meeting with his handlers?

Anonymous said...

This is the song that never ends...

Anonymous said...

Guys, let be fair. He has only had 2+ years to get this ball rolling.

Given his single digit IQ, I think we have to grant him a little grace period to get anything accomplished, right?

And since Jeff Good or any other Jxn cheerleader with funding has not yet begun pushing a new candidate into the spotlight...I think you'll get even more years of this sort of stellar government.

I will never understand why y'all are not picketing outside his house daily but, I guess enjoy your leader.

Anonymous said...

The City Council should place an item on the agenda to discuss the very real vacancy in the Office of Mayor.

Anonymous said...

He is a hostage negotiator. Partly bc media caters to him a great deal. Except kingfishvall others locally are in his corner. City needs leadership and it’s not this clown. He’s a true moron and so is phD Omari. Both lack leadership skills and intelligence

Anonymous said...

Chowke is just following the orders provided by the actual Mayor "Dr" Omari, a Ridgeland resident.

Anonymous said...

THE SONG REMAINS THE SAME!


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Led Zeppelin: The Song Remains the Same/Celebration Day 8/4/1979 HD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WcyQrIUYnI

Anonymous said...

Trust the process

Anonymous said...

12:20 - For fucks sakes, I wish all of you naysayin' bastards would put a sock in it. There are efforts taking place within the city by the people that matter most - us citizens. We're looking for a way out of this mess and there are people meeting in an attempt to bolster voting numbers and do away with complacency. We're fucking trying alright? I know people like you don't care and look for any reason to gloat because you're honestly probably just a sad sack. Just fuck off. Please.

Anonymous said...

Lubumba 2025, vote early, vote often!

Anonymous said...

So we are definitely having a trash crisis again?

Anonymous said...

Maybe he feels Richards has paid its debt to society so he can appoint them for life, at least his political life.

Anonymous said...

1:10pm, are you crying right now? Be honest…

Anonymous said...

meanwhile in the suburbs, garbage is collected. water leaks are fixed, the roads aren’t gutted with potholes, the public schools are succeeding, and crime remains low. not gloating just telling the truth.

Anonymous said...

If I recall correctly, the judge told the Council he could not give them the authority to issue a RFP but could order the mayor to issue one. I think this is what happened in the Hattiesburg case. So it appears the Council needs to head back to the judge ASAP and end the mayor's shenanigans. I thought the judge was basically telling them what they needed to do, but this Council hasn't shown much intelligence.

Anonymous said...

"the city could not issue another RFP because Richard's Disposal is suing the city over the current RFP"
WHAT??? Who does business with someone who is suing them???!!! Issue a new damn RFP and other qualified companies can respond.

Anonymous said...

I love this for Jackson and it’s voters.

Keep voting Democrat.

Anonymous said...

Does the mayor really believe that his supporters are gullible enough to believe that we are at the mercy of Richard's in all of this? This is laughable, as is the litigation filed by Richard's. The mayor is the one who mentioned the word "lawsuit" so many times during the self-made garbage crisis that it probably encouraged Richard's to file this hail mary suit. The incompetence never fails to amaze me.

Anonymous said...

Stuck on stupid.

Anonymous said...

The mayor is a crook and Ms Martin should resign before he further damages her professional reputation.

Anonymous said...

We all get what we deserve. Just glad I’m not a Dimocrat!

Anonymous said...

"There are efforts taking place within the city by the people that matter most - us citizens."

Are you part of the group that is supposedly so concerned with the direction of the City, yet is wasting time by having a speaker at its next meeting to tell whitey how racist they are?

Yeah, that's the change the City needs. Not!

Anonymous said...

Yes! The Jackistan clown show continues to raise my Madison property values.

Anonymous said...

that disappointed sigh in the video (around 5:48+). i can't help but laugh so incredibly hard because it's such an all-around shitshow.

Anonymous said...

Well said, September 13, 2023 at 2:02 PM
and worth repeating

the judge told the Council he could not give them the authority to issue a RFP but could ORDER THE MAYOR TO ISSUE ONE.

it appears the Council needs to head back to the judge ASAP and end the mayor's shenanigans

Anonymous said...

"Just fuck off. Please" -1:10pm

Keep that same energy when you think my suburban tax dollars should be used to subsidize your shit hole liberal mecca. I will fuck all the way off just as I did when your ilk decided to begin electing bowties with no brains than ran me and other sane people from a city we loved.

Good luck with your next COJ DEI meeting.

Anonymous said...

I hope the council will bring this up at every weekly meeting. Also what’s up with disbanding the city ‘s audit department? What is the Mayor hiding?

Anonymous said...

The "complaint" is procedurally improper and should have been dismissed by now. The circuit court can't sit in appellate and trial jurisdiction at the same time, on the same case. It's either an appeal or it isn't.

The appeal is supposed to be on the record, and 5 months in they're still squabbling over the content of the record on appeal? And a "bill of exceptions"?

Damn people, open the Rules of Court once and a while. Stop just making stuff up as you go.

Anonymous said...

Why is our State Capitol stuck here?!

Anonymous said...

Seems to be an outbreak of Lumamba Detangement Syndrome. Are you all a bunch of triggered snowflakes? Can someone from the right let me know if I’m not using your lingo correctly.

Anonymous said...

@5:52 PM Rukia, thanks for checking in.

GM said...

I can smell it now.

Anonymous said...

The city council is almost as incompetent as Chowke. It's a perfect storm.

Anonymous said...

So... this guy is going to get elected again if we don't find someone else to run...

Anonymous said...

I believe the odds are high that Waste Management chooses not to participate in the next RFP for the Crime Capitol. At this point no one could blame them.

Anonymous said...

I voted for the spoiled brat we know as Chokwe and I will never do so again. He and his looney tune sister. Both are corrupt.

Anonymous said...

When will the next City audit be reported?

Anonymous said...

Martin, pocket mouse for little tyrant, pretends to be an attorney for the city and now when clear legal options exist for the Council, there's no money to hire outside counsel to go around her.

Anonymous said...

Because of Jackson’s form of government the council is limited on what it can do about the trash rfp.
But, what they can do is have the rfp on the agenda for every meeting. Banks controls the meetings and they can bring it up every single meeting. Eventually Chokme may show up for a meeting and every single council member needs to ask what is being done. Do not accept that BS response that they have to wait for the judge. That is BS and everybody knows it. The council needs to keep this out in front of the public so the citizens can see that Chokme is doing nothing to prevent another garbage crisis.
If there is no money to hire outside attorneys, then cut the pay of Tori Martin and all the other attys that allegedly work for the city and use that money to hire a real atty.
The council controls the money!!

Anonymous said...

Leadership vacuum + incompetence + corruption = Citizen Misery

But on the other hand, the citizens voted for and continue to accept the leadership they have, so they deserve what they get.

Anonymous said...

8:47, by your logic we all deserve Biden since we voted him in?

I did not vote for either Chokwe or Biden, and I certainly don’t deserve either of them.

Anonymous said...

I'm sorry to break it to some of you, but you've created an environment where you will NOT get competing bids from other than these two and I'm not sure about Richards.

Richards has been far better than Waste Management in my neighborhood. They do not leave garbage on the street or damage trash can by throwing them from the truck like WM did regularly. They do not leave limbs that meet the criteria on the street as WM did mine on 8 times until in frustration, I put a measuring tape in front of the pile. Of course, they suspected I had photographed what I'd done (they were right) and took it away. As I suspected, they took the tape measure as well!

I understand the personnel from route to route may not be as good as on my route, or as bad as WM was on my route, but good grief people! This is garbage, not rocket science. Jackson last RFP was a copy word for word of what other cities are putting in their contract competitions. You can actually pick a city you think is run well of comparable size and find out for yourselves.

This is politics with the tint of racism added from some critics at its most self-destructive. I'm frankly tired of being "collateral damage".

News flash! Neither political party or race is perfect and doesn't have any crooks or idiots in their group! They also have some smart and decent people but they are being hammered or driven away. The smart and honorable and imperfect folks in both groups can acknowledge their idiots and criminals and try ferret them out of the group or at least, not elevate them to positions of responsibility. They don't shout, " the other group is worse!" They do not make excuses for their own bad apples! Please re-read this and THINK. Your side will win if you take care of your problems in your political party! I'd be happy not to have to weigh "which party or likely candidate is the most dangerous this five minutes?" when I vote. IF you allow those who literally have been institutionalized for paranoia,they aren't CURED. Their meds just get them to not physically dangerous levels of paranoid ideations...if they stay on them!

Kingfish said...

Will disagree. RD service was decent in my area.... when it showed up. Too often it came a day later and I don't mean during the first month or two which is to be expected.

The second year has been different. They have missed days. Then there are the lies they told during the rainstorms. Lied about couldn't drop off garbage at WM transfer station when it stayed open. No one else lost garbage service as we did, not even Hinds County which is served by WM.

Oh, as for your precious limbs. If we cut shrubs, trimmed limbs etc and kept them to four feet or less, we could pile them neatly on the curb and WM would take them.

RD? Nope. Got to put them in a garbage can before it will touch such refuse.

What we have seen in the second year is the company everyone complained about in New Orleans.

Anonymous said...

10:59 I don't know who hurt you, but your ability to be 'the dog at the kitchen table engulfed in flames meme' does not mean "This is Fine" for the rest of us.

Some of us want a leader that does not openly commit corruption and we want a fair RFP process. We are not content to sit in the flames and pretend this is normal, but go off.

Anonymous said...

I think it’s time to have a serious discussion about changing Jackson’s form of government to Manager-Council. This mayor is clearly not equipped to run this city. Nor do I think there are many people left in this city with the competence or qualifications to be mayor (who are willing to run, that is). I think it’s worth a serious conversation. Unfortunately it would have to be citizen led, as I don’t see Chokme willingly ceding his power and authority voluntarily.

Anonymous said...

Yes 12:32, a professional City Manager could budget, plan and seek competitive bids like most mayors in America, but not our deranged little marxist.

Anonymous said...

10:59 Are you getting more than garbage service from Richard's? They have postponed pickup in my neighborhood 24 hrs late twice in last 3 months and will not collect 40" neatly stacked branches. I prefer WM, but please demand a bid process that specifies details of service and competitive bidding.

Anonymous said...

Clearly I must not understand the politics but whatnot use waste management. They do a nice job here. Forget those small time companies!

Anonymous said...

KF I believe you and so I believe we both must conclude the pick up is as good as the crew on the route.

I live in Leftover that also runs Eastover's route,I was told you live in Fondren. My route is only residential. I do not know if that's true of yours and how that may affect amounts of trash on the trucks (that, of course, should be considered by RD and WD in their routing).

So, it seems our focus should not be the companies but what we need to do find out why the route difference in service occurs and if that can be corrected by adding one or more trucks to routes.

If no one figures that out, no one can write an RFP that eliminates poor service to some. If there's no mechanism for evaluating service, how do we know what the service failures are and where they occur?

Perhaps, we could require cameras on the backs of garbage trucks so it'd help either company know what their employees are doing.

I suspect and I'm sure you do as well, that hiring good crews on the trucks may not be easy and perhaps, a wage incentive would help if included in the next RFP.

For all problems, there's the best available solution and I'm frustrated with the " let's choose up sides" "or "blame game" approaches rather that allow our elected officials to make our complaints political not practical. I drive by one complainer's house nearly every day. That person like some others overload their cans and aren't able to close the lid. They won't put excess in a bag or buy a second can. That wasn't the case in my area with WM or RD. With WM, their crew didn't walk all the way to the truck and threw cans from the truck to curb. Indeed, in many cities ,the fact that so many humans won't or can't afford to get adequate garbage containers is WHY the 69 gallon cans are required in many cities...some bought at city not contractor expense. They are a ONE TIME expense in the life of contracts. How long those cans are durable is a known.

I hate that our officials, particularly on the city council did NOT do due diligence. They did not bother to find out from other cities of the same size or larger, what works and what doesn't. The "Maynards" were controversial in Atlanta, but you'd be risking your life to take them away or not have replaced them now. God forbid we should learn from the successes and failures elsewhere.

Anonymous said...

First, learn something about the management of waste.
Bigger can be better IF the company passes along the benefits of " economies of scale" (making purchases in bulk) to the consumer.
Yes, WM is bigger and should have been able to way underbid Richards especially with the cans included.
Some of you should also look up the history of both companies. They are imperfect in different ways.
Let's not pretend that this mayor could ever be acceptable to some of you. I understand that his father's history is concerning. His father died before he could do much of anything. I'm no inclined to put the sins of the father on every child without evidence.
You have all assumed a place (Detroit) means he's a crook and his father's politics is something he shares. I frankly don't know why anyone thinks he's stupid or uneducated. He was accepted at and graduated from two highly respected universities.
I am disappointed in his willingness to get into peeing contests with skunks. I think he could communicate better with both the council and the citizens so as to give critics no "cover".
But, I'm also very aware, that just as he hasn't proven himself and some criticisms are justified, his critics seldom do more than yell and attempt to smear him with unproven claims of corruption and "intent".
It seems our political divisions are making us stark raving mad and both sides are becoming increasingly hysterical...as in clinically, not amusingly.
Calm down! Politicians and their hacks are like teenagers, if they have to explain their actions, assume they are telling a self serving lie! Be cool and use you brains before you get upset.

Anonymous said...

11:54, as scared as I was when Chokwe Sr. was elected, it became evident pretty quickly he was trying to improve Jackson for all Jacksonians and I wished we could have seen what his father could have accomplished. Chokwe Jr. is in it strictly for himself. WM may be imperfect as you claim, but all I ask of a waste company is that when I put my trashcan on the curb in the morning, it’s empty that night. WM did that, Richard’s cannot. WM had the better proposal, as determined by the city council, but Chokwe and his cronies couldn’t get any kickbacks from them so here we are in this mess.

Kingfish said...

Oh please.

Daddy hid the crime stats just as junior does and did so immediately when he took office.

Daddy hired Willie Bell to be his public works director. Completely unqualified for the job. Was not a P.E., nor had worked in public works before . He is now the Mayor's driver or used to be. Yeah.

Had Dr. Omari as his chief of staff.

Hired Horton to be his police chief.

Ran off the very competent city attorney staff and replaced them with morons. Remember Imen-Hotep?

Appointed DJ's, preachers, and nurses to the JMAA Board.

Want me to keep going?

Y'all just talk good about him because he had the sense to be professional to everyone, unlike his son, who is nothing more than an insecure bully and pathological liar.


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