Monday, July 17, 2017

John Doe sues Ethics Commission over Ole Miss ruling.

Ole Miss booster John Doe isn't taking his loss at the Ethics Commission last week lying down.  He appealed the decision to Hinds County Chancery Court today.  Read the petition for yourself.








As for the merits of his case, read this earlier post.

53 comments:

Anonymous said...

It is a shame that the athletes who were disclosed don't share the same privacy rights as the John Does of the world. I can't for the life of me justify why the (wealthy) boosters have privacy rights which those poor naive football players apparently don't have.

Anonymous said...

I have the utmost respect for Judge Thomas, but, respectfully, think he should recuse himself from this case. He is a huge Ole Miss fan, very big supporter of Ole Miss athletics, and a large Ole Miss athletics donor/benefactor. He owns a house/condo in Oxford, regularly attends Ole Miss athletic events, etc. While I certainly respect him, I would find it very hard for him to be impartial or unbiased on this issue.

Anonymous said...

You can run, but you cant hide.

Anonymous said...

You made yourself a party. Leave the lawyering to the lawyers.

Anonymous said...

What a bunch of rubes. Take your medicine for crying out loud. You're embarrassing your university further. If that is possible. Roll in the clown car!

Anonymous said...

Any other Chancellor and this one would be laughed out of court. But I am concerned about Chancellor Thomas,for the reasons above,and because I suspect that he knows John Doe very well. He should step aside. Otherwise,the Supreme Court will have to reverse him

Anonymous said...

Any other Chancellor and this one would be laughed out of court. But I am concerned about Chancellor Thomas,for the reasons above,and because I suspect that he knows John Doe very well. He should step aside. Otherwise,the Supreme Court will have to reverse him

Anonymous said...

Who's this John Doe sumbitch who keeps suing everybody?

Anonymous said...

Hotty-Toddy, Squatty-Potty.

It's A-holes like this that sit there in loafers and think they are someone important until the sh*t starts flying.

What a bunch of hillbillies.

Anonymous said...

Sad that grownups are acting like this. It's pretty plain and simple. They wouldn't mind their names being unredacted if they had not done anything wrong. It's all going to come out in the wash and lots of fans, alumni, boosters, administration and coaches are going to have so much egg on their face that the stench of rotten eggs will never wash off. It's going to be a great day when this all comes to a head and all the TCUN fans up north go into hiding. Step up and be an adult and accept your punishment. You have no other choice. Keep pissing off the NCAA and they will surely deal with your school, coaches and football program with the hammer of Thor.

Anonymous said...

It would be in the best interest of Ole Miss to just release the names. Kick out the bad and just get it over with. But obviously they won't and will continue to just make it worse for themselves.

Anonymous said...

I agree that the guy should be exposed. The one little issue I have is that he has not had a hearing in a real court. He was found guilty in NCAA 'court'. The NCAA makes up it's own rules when deciding a case. Ole Miss and the athletes by participating in NCAA activities are bound by these rules. Boosters are also bound by the rules insofar as the can be disassociated from schools and their actions can be used as a basis for penalizing schools & athletes. My question is can they be penalized in the real world based on NCAA findings alone? Penalty could be not only damaged reputations but they could be sued by schools, athletes, and fellow boosters for the effects of probation. Damages could be millions. I still think names should be revealed, but there is an argument to be made on the other side.

Anonymous said...

anybody familiar with john doe and the judge already know how this ends.....these crimes won't get exposed this week!

Anonymous said...

6:21 -- time to leave the Grove and enter the real world of what is being discussed and arbitrated here.

The NCAA has made a Notice of Allegations against the University; and as to several of those allegations, the University has agreed.

The University has disassociated the boosters involved; that was an action taken by the public body, the University of Mississippi.

The MS Ethics Commission - a body established by MS State statute has found that according to the LAWS OF THE STATE OF MS, not the rules of the NCAA, that the written documents of the University are PUBLIC RECORDS. That according to the LAWS OF THE STATE (again, not according to charges made by the NCAA) that the University is required to release these documents.

If the boosters didn't follow the rules as related to their support for the University - as you have acknowledged, and the University then follows the rules and disassociates those boosters, again as you have acknowledged, then the actions - because the University is a public body must by MS LAW release the documents.

Nice try at dragging this red and blue herring across the field trying to obfuscate the issue, just as all good and loyal supporters have been doing since this fiasco started - but this fight by John Doe is totally a different animal than the one you are trying to describe.

Anonymous said...

@6:21

Why does he need a hearing in a "real" court? The allegations are not of a criminal nature, they are violations of NCAA rules. I imagine that his name has been in the public domain for doing things according to NCAA rules, so why not make this public also without wasting the time of a "real" court?

Anonymous said...

6:21 --- The University has determined that the boosters broke the rules - the NCAA rules and therefore the University's rules. They are not subject to a court; as the boosters have not broken any Mississippi laws. The University has determined that the boosters are to be penalized and have disassociated them from the school. The boosters don't have an appeal process to that decision by the school (which was obviously taken based on the NCAA's findings, which were found to be factual by the school.)

But as has been noted, that's not what the fight is about here - this is about the John Doe not wanting the rest of the world to know about his stupid and rule-breaking activities trying to act like a big shot on campus.

The University took an official action, and as a state institution they are subject to state laws about public disclosure. The state requires that such actions are required to be disclosed. The University stalled for as long as they could to keep it quite, but eventually had to throw in the towel - something they should get used to because they will be doing it often on the field this fall.

The state has required the University to disclose their actions which includes these boosters' names. John Doe (at least one if not multiple of these cheaters) is trying to delay this for as long as they can, and thus they are appealing. Guess if you have the money to buy players, you can spend it on lawyers. Probably get a professional discount in many cases - on the lawyers that is, not on the defensive linemen.

Anonymous said...

Judge Thomas-"Mr. John Doe, are you ready?"
Mr. John Doe-"hell yeah, damn right"...*affirmative wink*

Anonymous said...

Integrity by Rev. Coach Freeze-- when you are caught doing something wrong, you OWN it, then you move along.

Anonymous said...

There is no statute or rule which allows the boosters names to be kept secret.

This is an exercise in futility.

Anonymous said...

8:11, who gives a rats ass who they are? You just want a CNN personal destruction job on them, which is no reason to name anyone. And you just stole 10 seconds of my life with that fake news. I'm coming to get them back. And hell is coming with me. I'm putting a jihad on you.

Anonymous said...

KF - is a citizen of the state of Mississippi entitled to Due Process under the 5th and 14th Amendments? Is said citizen entitled to notice of what he did wrong, and a hearing to present his evidence?

Anonymous said...

CNN personal destruction job?

Anonymous said...

Do we have any red and blue fans on here who can tell us the odds of Freeze keeping his job until December? I read some speculation that if they fire him before the NCAA makes it official they will have to pay him a lot of money. Ole Missy seems to be trying to save him. If they could save him, (and assuming they have to suspend cheating for a few years), then the question would be when he has to play by the rules is he anything more than an average coach?

Anonymous said...

Isn't this just a matter of confirmation, KF? The Mississippi grapevine is usually pretty good at picking up this sort of thing.

Anonymous said...

1257, of course a Mississippian is entitled to constitutional protections - when dealing with the courts. But a university disassociating a booster has nothing to do with 'laws' - it has to do with its rules. Just like one can get kicked out of a swanky country club for being a drunken horses ass - assuming that is in their membership rules. (Thought that analogy could be one the red and blue boosters asking such questions could understand.)

5 & 14 amendments aren't in play here. Quit hanging out in the Grove; get back into class and finish 2nd semester first year law.

Anonymous said...

John Doe's reputation will be damaged whether he did anything wrong or not. He may have done nothing wrong. In fact, the charges brought by the over zealous investigators are falling apart. The investigators broke the NCAA rules in the investigation. The players of the families say the players got nothing from OM. Rebel Rags has blown apart the players stories. Text messages exist that show collusion between the former state AD and the MSU team reporter. Enough want Freeze very badly so the facts may not matter. More and more this looks like a calculated and planned action to take Freeze out. His biggest sins were beating Alabama, winning a Sugar Bowl and being an outspoken Christian. Oh, and being from Mississippi. The state reporter and their athletic department would rather OM lose than State win. What a bunch of pathetic little people.

Anonymous said...

7:03. Have you not read the NOAs ? There is absolutely no whiff of illegal recruiting inducements other than the since discredited Lewis controversy. After a nearly 5 year investigation, they NCAA only found a bunch of little stuff like rides to games, a player sleeping on a coaches couch, some chicken wings and a loaner car kept for a few months. It was an old junker. NCAA found no cash payments, no Mustangs and absolutely nothing big at all. This is far less than the mess at Louisville. Ole Miss has already gone above and beyond in penalizing for the crimes committed, tiny as they are. You comments are immersed in ignorance and a very unhealthy hate.

Anonymous said...

Attn 8:52 We are sorry you are having a "pitty" attack.

Anonymous said...

Judge Thomas is a huge Ole Miss fan. Hopefully he will put that aside and do the right thing here.

Anonymous said...

What will be planted on VH when the NCAA applies the death penalty, turnips or collards?

Anonymous said...

Proper Conduct Fears No Exposure......booster is guilty and knows it. Now he's praying that his corrupt Old Miss buddies will save him.

Anonymous said...

If we put this kind of time, thought, and effort into poverty we are going to make some real progress.

Anonymous said...

Even if Ole Miss could rely on this appeal to delay the release of John Doe's identity, how would this entitle them to continue withholding the identities of all of the other boosters named in the NOA and Amended NOA? It seems like the final order of the Ethics Commission would require the university to release the unredacted version, with only John Doe's name being redacted until his appeal is exhausted. The privacy claims of the other parties have been waived.

Anonymous said...

9:26 No pity attack. Go read the NOAs and you'll see that he's right (sorry there are no pictures for you). Ole Miss has self imposed penalties because it said that prior coaches did allow the academic scandals and some other small stuff did happen. The second NOA is predicated on testimony that changed significantly in the three interviews and Ole Miss wasn't allowed to participate in those interviews in any fashion. They weren't even made aware of them in a timely manner. What a certain interviewee actually said was that multiple schools paid him, yet the NCAA has only continued to go after Ole Miss. If this testimony is good enough to use against them, why is it not good enough to look into other programs? Once that testimony is discredited (as stated above, it changed significantly through the interviews and has major factual flaws), the only allegations left that occurred under Freeze are small in comparison to the other recent NCAA cases. The university has gone above and beyond in punishing itself for those things

Anonymous said...

8:52, yes I have actually read the NOA's. Obviously you haven't, or else used your GED in reading to get into UM. (Once there, it appears that reading comprehension is not required to stay.)

Since discredited? Only on your UM blog sites.
Loaner car for a few months? Junker? Obviously you read the Canon Motors analysis. Call your local Rep and see if that is what their fine dealership would offer for that multi-year muffler job.

No cash payments? Get serious. Cash, furniture, cars, utility assistance, moving costs, housing......

Who cares. The COI will sort all this out for you in a few months. Until then, enjoy your fantasy.

Anonymous said...

Ole Miss was thinking ahead when they pulled up the astro turf and brought in rich soil. This will give them about 5 years to lock the gates and move the marijuana field to Vaught-Hemingway stadium.

Anonymous said...

My guess is John Doe is a politician hoping to run (or has already run) for a state-wide political office. He doesn't want his name out there for fear it will piss off every MSU fan and cost him an election. Or it is a business owner with multiple stores or franchises all over the state and again doesn't want to piss off half the population of the state.

They should have thought about that before they cheated.

Anonymous said...

@11:12

And if thugs and thieves put the time they do into being crafty and trying to outsmart people and the law into a real job, think of how well off they would be.

Anonymous said...

12:35 - or he's just a nobody who carries a public persona as a reasonable black bear supporter who doesn't really care that much about winning and losing, but simply enjoys sitting under tent chandeliers eating cold abners chicken strips and drinking warm zimas in the grrroooooooooove before (and after halftime of) black bear home games. He can't "bear" the thought that he will be exposed as a petty, childish, foolish asshat who measures his worth on how often his black bears beat Alabama.

Anonymous said...

11:40- you have clearly exposed your profession. You are obviously an investigator for the NCAA. Otherwise, how would you know that the student athletes changed their testimony in three different occasions? If UM was not allowed in the testimony sessions how are you so well versed in what they said in each of their meetings with the NCAA?

Anonymous said...

12:35 - he could just possible be both!

Anonymous said...

Whoever the John Doe is he is apparently willing to spend lots of money and time to keep his name hidden. For someone supposedly innocent of everything he sure acts like someone who has a secret they don't want a bright light signing upon it for the whole state to see.

Anonymous said...

This is strikingly similar to the situation at State College a few years ago when some immature (nicest word I can think of) cow college alum was slipping bills to a State College recruit. Methinks this is quite common (though still stupid) among alums of all the schools.

Anonymous said...

Both sides on this string are an embarrassment to college football and human kind. Get a life.

Anonymous said...

This reminds me of when Elton John spent a fortune trying to keep his and the husband's name, redacted from court filings in England. The couple were arguing their minor children might be affected by the reporting of the lawsuit.

The whole mess was being talked about openly in the US Papers and the British tabloids were having to dancing around who and what in hysterical fashion, because of the privacy laws.

It all involved a third party, a children's swimming pool full of Jell-O (hopefully not borrowed from their own children), and shortchanging of a money. I believe there were also pictures but I refuse to confirm that.

Maybe someone needs to give Elton 50 yard line season tickets to Rebels upcoming season to kick this into high gear.

Anonymous said...

Old Miss and Cowbell U are still talking about this?

What a bunch of mouth breathing hillbillies.

Redact This.. said...

"Both sides on this string are an embarrassment to college football and human kind."

"Sting?" What sting, you dumbass? Who are you suggesting set up Nutt, Freeze, Bjork, assistant coaches and boosters?

And speaking of boosters, what if the latest redacted mystery-man has the last name beginning with Manni....?

Anonymous said...

9:34 am proudly demonstrates UM-level reading comprehension skills for all to see.

Anonymous said...

Who really cares about Ole Miss cheating? This a school in which people attend for the sole intent of becoming part of a cabal of corruption.
If you need this scandal to realize the truth about TSUN, then I don't know what to tell you.
This is not about football, the NCAA, or rich people we may love to hate. This whole thing is one giant showcase about how a certain group of people that espouse the notion that the rules do not apply to them, but indeed, they apply to the rest of us.
,
Listen up snowflakes:
Privacy and due process my ass. This is a matter of public interest. Public means public. A state subsidized institution 'ain't' the country club that you believe it to be. The 'Harvard of the South' needs to be turned over to the free, solely privatized market if they expect this shit to go on, as is, completely unabated.

Anonymous said...

I find it hard to believe the people on this blog have not figured out who the culprit(s) in this mess is. I know, and he "DOES NOT" have a building or street named after him and/or his wife. Time will tell.

Anonymous said...

Here,here!!

Kingfish said...

This is Rebel 3301. Let us have our fun.

Anonymous said...

Maybe the individual trying to keep his/her name out of the press is simply because he/she is trying to protect their career. Maybe this is political in some way shape or form. Maybe the connections go beyond illegal recruiting for Tne Flagship U! Public embarrassment and career ending moves are driving the request! Maybe he/she is trying to protect the Ivory Tower and name of the Instituion or Brand beyond the name of Ole Miss......

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