Here is some red meat from Gene's Page for those who need their daily dose of Rebeldrama this morning. The post is Steve Robertson's tale of how the Mr. Freeze's Tampa services were discovered. It is from a message board so take it for what it is worth.
Ouch.
Tom Mars, Houston Nutt's attorney, contacted me through a mutual friend back in June. Mars wanted to talk about the Ole Miss case and about how Nutt was thrown under the bus. He wanted to know if I knew anything about Nutt being mentioned during the investigation at all and if there were any reports about anything that would implicate Nutt.
I was reluctant to talk with any attorneys other than my own, but at the urging of out mutual friend I agreed to share my contact information.
Mars and I spoke by phone a couple of times before things really got cooking. I wasn't sure who he was or what his angle was. As a show of good faith on his part, he offered to share the materials he had received from Ole Miss through several FOIA requests. He said if there was anything that in there that helped me with the book, that I was welcome to use it.
Included in the materials were e-mails and phone records, both cellular and landline. I went through them all and found the calls made to and from journalists on January 29th, the weekend the first NOA was acknowledged. The next round of records were from 1/19-21, 2016. Included in those records was a one minute call to a Detroit, Michigan cell phone connected to a Sarasota, Florida escort service.
I couldn't believe my eyes. I had my wife come in and double check what I was seeing. I was looking at an escort service ad with my wife. My how far we've come since Faith Based Recruiting. I called Mars and had him pull the records to be sure he had the same thing. I asked him to google the number and his reaction was to be expected, "Oh, hell!". Mars shared the info with some national media members. I talked with a couple of people, but I told them to do their own research. This was too important for people to cut corners with.
There was a part of me that wanted to break it in the book, but I didn't feel comfortable with the little information we had. That changed earlier this week. The rest of the story will be in the book, but I wanted to share with you all how some of this came to be. The talk of me shopping the story is completely false, but Ole Miss media folks and quality sources don't seem to mix well.
Kingfish note: JJ also filed a public records requests for the actual public records requests for the NCAA Notices of Allegations. Consider it a Watching of the Watchers of Sorts. The requests are posted below. Check the dates. None of the state media asked for the records until.... drum roll..... July 13, 2017. It is a little surprising that there were so few requests.
Note: An email was leaked to The Kingfish. It stated:
"When people ask you what happened here, tell them the Nutt remembers. Tell them winter came for House Hugh."
78 comments:
A one minute call to an escort service? One call,one minute and they fire the guy!!!!
I hope they have other evidence of him calling the service....
11:22 They did not fire him, he resigned. Pleading guilty usually means you did it.
looks like a Mississippi Civil War over sex.
They cited a "pattern of misconduct" and he admitted it. Wonder where is right this second, what he is doing, what he is thinking? I would guess he is holed up by himself in a Memphis hotel eating cereal and watching cartoons.
The best is yet to come😁
One call that's all.
I'm a former Hugh Freeze supporter, former since last Thursday. While Freeze did deserve harsh consequences, those tempted to gloat here and other sites please remember his wife and three teenage daughters. He's gone, Ole Miss is handcuffed and that's what many of you wanted. Enough.
1:39-
"Please remember his wife and three teenage daughters"?
Maybe Hugh SHOULD HAVE REMEMBERED ABOUT HIS WIFE AND THREE TEENAGE DAUGHTERS.
Nobody has the right to preach morals about this scumbag, but it's open season on making fun of him.
I am not a fan of college sports but I love seeing the high and mighty "perfect" people in our society take a fall because of their own arrogance.
I don't care if this guy wanted to step out on his wife and get some strange. What I LOVE is that this guy (and his zealot supporters) thought he was above being a scumbag. He wanted a saints image but he was as lousy a human as anyone. HE is the one who touted HIMSELF as a "good Christian". Typical Bible Belt BS. Typical USM grad, and typical UM leader.
Hotty-Toddy, Squatty-Potty!
Good ole Gene. He had enough to take down the university and the mighty Rebels quietly. But instead sent out emails saying hey, look at this. Coach Freeze's wife and children be damned. Karma will pay a visit to Gene's page one day.
Hey, black bears. Had enough yet? You boat shoe wearing pretentious douchebags better hope like hell that those phone records (and those of the remaining coaching staff) don't prove for a fact what the rest of the world already suspects: That your god-fearing network of cheaters was arranging hookers for recruits. Can you say "Modern-Day SMU?"
Hey you leghumppers...that NCAA sword y'all gleefully unsheathed has a double edge. When the cutting starts no telling where it will end cause y'all SURE ain't seen everything yet.
2:35, You're a bigger dumbass than you sound if think this type of behavior is exclusive to one school. Dare I mention the Pony?
My guess is that you: 1) work for a man that owns a boat and therefore he wears boat shoes; 2) will never rise to be a boss or employer yourself so; 3) will get small thrills from others' misfortunes.
You sound petty, weak and bitter. I'm glad I'm not you. If that makes me sound pretentious then so be it.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/news/story?id=4083219
Have people forgotten about this?
I am curious why If Freeze was given the option to resign or be terminated after his immoral misconduct with an escort service, why wasn't Ole Miss head basketball coach, Andy Kennedy, given the same treatment after his drunken assault and verbal abuse of a Cincinnati cab driver? Ole Miss seems to have varying views of what conduct is acceptable and what isn't.
11:22 What I have read is that Nutt's attorney had asked for phone records from one week, or two. I forget which. And they found what they wanted. Freeze called nine sports writers to tell them that most of the NCAA problems were due to things that happened when Nutt was coach. (This was a lie. And thus Nutt could not get a job interview and sued). Ole Miss allowed Freeze to redact all personal calls from this record. Nutt's folks were going to challenge the reactions in court and I have read they would have won. After Nutt's folks found the nine calls they shared the records with Steve Robertson who had been writing a book about this investigation for a long time. Steve found the one call that Freeze failed to redact. He reported this to Hutt's guy who went back and ask for more records. I think it was three years. Ole Miss pulled the three years records and that was the end. Evidently, there was a very large number of improper calls. No one did this to Freeze but Freeze. No one did this to Freeze' wife and daughters but Freeze. And yes, he's going to get roughed up a bit more than most folks because he gave such a black eye to Christians by constantly claiming to be such a very strong and deeply committed Christian for years while he was buying football players and whores.
With all the high powered lawyers and money that UM has spent trying to get out of this mess, why did they allow a couple of amateurs (Bjork/Vitter) to run their mouth and blame Houston Nutt for their problems. That is the reason others are finding more and more smut on the program. May be wrong but the way things have gone in how UM is defending this whole thing will make a case study of "How to royally ...ck things up".
By the way I don't think the majority are gleeful so much about the personal defamation of Hugh, but rather that something may be done to even the playing field. While many UM people blame MSU for their issues (even though there are no facts to substantiate this), it is a fact that UM boosters were aggressively involved with NCAA in taking Jackie down.
Any school that will cheat in girl's track will cheat at everything and anything. Faith Based Recruiting was Freezers mantra. Gotta love it. Guy was as bogus as a three dollar bill and the world has known it for years. For a long, long time they will be hung with the well deserved moniker as cheaters.
How many bought those We Stand With Hugh shirts?? Right up there with Coach O stickers. And remember, they are everybody's main rival..........Finebaum(sp?) as commencement speaker?? Good grief.
5:19 he can still be a Christian you know. You aren't in charge of that. Nobody on here is.
Although Freeze is/was a sleeze ball and a slime-wad, when this guy (who Kingfish is quoting) mentions the word 'book', his shit is immediately suspect.
4:20....To our knowledge, Andy Kennedy wasn't having intercourse with the Arab cab driver or arranging for others to enjoy that dalliance. He only slapped the towel-head upside the cheek and laughed. But, you are right; Kennedy should have been fired. PS: Go ahead and provide your information on Kennedy's recruiting improprieties and his farting around with ACT scores and his paying for tacos and tailored suits nanded out to recruits....just when you have a minute.
Food for thought: Why would you call an escort service in Florida to come to Oxford Mississippi or thereabouts when I believe there are probably some closer to Oxford. The real question and one I feel sure the NCAA and/or FBI is investigating is whether the escort service was being used as a recruiting tool.
Rebels better hope that Freeze was NOT using the escort service as a means of recruiting.
FWIW the sports media has consistently said or implied that Ala and Ga along with another out of conference school were the initial complaining parties to the ncaa.
The Ala folks have always said Saban was instrumental in pushing the case.
Naw Andy ain't cheating like that too...maybe this year have you seen who he has coming in Randy. It's going to be a Long season.
well said @ 5:36….
@ 6:15..DUH!!! ya think?
1:39, with Hugh being a USM grad brings a whole 'nother can of worms.....a family that owns a large bridge building company in Hattiesburg controls USM and is a UM grad. That's right UM! But when you have money, you have power and that's what's going on in college football.
https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/4/10/5594348/college-football-bag-man-interview
Hopefully there will much more devastating news this next week. I am sure the Ole Miss administration soft-pedaled Freeze's indiscretions as much as they could to get through the weekend. Being dumb enough to use a university-issued cellphone for this activity means he was not thinking straight. No telling what the records actually show. I wouldn't be surprised if there were not hundreds of calls at all hours when he was supposed to be working. Let's see all these UM knuckleheads on FB continue to "stand with the Rebels."
This is from an Ole Miss alum. A man who is the Head ( no pun intended) Football Coach at OM, who makes 5 millions bucks a year, who is in the geographical epicenter of the Poontang universe, AND is calling hookers for sex is terminally Mentally Ill and needs to put on some heavy duty anti-depressants. The guy is totally bat-shit crazy.
According to 5:36pm, you can do whatever the heck you want, and still be a Christian. I guess as long as you apologize if you get caught, you're still a Christian? Why am I not surprised, given that this is Mississippi, where:
- slave trader? Still Christian
- slave owner, rapist, and murderer? Still Christian
- lyncher? Still Christian
- Klan member? Still Christian
- white citizens council member? Still Christian
Which leads us to:
- whore money? Still Christian
- hypocrite? Still Christian
Love that old time religion!
Hey, 3:21, where have we seen that "JUST WAIT UNTIL THE NCAA COMES AFTER Y'ALL NEXT!!11!1!!" bull$h!+?
Oh, yeah, I remember. Dumbass Auburn fans said the same thing about State during the Cam Newton investigation. Aaaaaaaand nothing ever came of it. It's the age old cry of over-invested fans of every loser instittion under NCAA investigation. "You just wait!" Okay, we're waiting. And waiting. And waiting.
You know, you effete, testosterone challenged girly men need to focus on keeping your Shaevior from transferring to a legit program instead of dreaming up fantasies of retribution.
Pitt Fan? Not Christian.
I am not an ole miss fan. Their fans have always been abnoxious. Stuck up. Pretentious. Have liked their sports teams. Not a state fan either. If you guys would put as much energy into your program as you do hating the rebs you would be better off. That being said, sad and shocked at what I heard. The man is a Christian who presumably made some grave mistakes and bad choices. The so called journalist who want to crucify him show lack of class and professionalism. Kellenburger is a major dumb ass. I could understand a redneck making a statement but when he said Freeze classified himself as a man without sin he showed how find he was. My 2nd grader knows the basics of the Bible and him being a professional journalist he really showed he was out to get freeze. I say let's let that team start healing. It will be good for them and good for this state.
Instead of being interested in Ole Miss, Freeze was apparently more interested in a Young Miss.
I wonder if Trump will pardon his buddy High?
7:31 what did Jesus say about casting stones? That's all I'm saying. Yes forgiveness is part of Christianity. You are not the ultimate judge and I dare say Hugh Freeze might have done good in more people lives than you. It's a real possibility
If they didn't hate LSU so much, this would have never happen Randy. It's going to be a Long time before you guys have any credibility.
Lot's of sanctimonious twits on here. "Let the team start healing", really, 7:55? Well, give back the money, clothes, cars, etc. Cheating whore monger is still a Christian? Fatburger out to get freezer? He is very late to the party and a black bear shill.
7:55, You claim not to be a black bear fan but like their sports teams? Call black bear fans disparaging names, but want State fans to stop hating black bears.
I'm a State grad/fan. I'm tired of this whole thing.
My best friend is an Ole Miss fan. He would not answer my calls Thursday night or Friday morning, and I had not even heard the news. That's how polarizing this nonsense has become.
Both sides need to take a step back and realize that none of this matters. I wonder how many Ole Miss fans will sit church out tomorrow because they "don't want to be ribbed?" Its ridiculous.
I pray for Hugh and his family.
Remind me again why we are paying these state employees $96,000.00 a WEEK? What kind of message does that send to the taxpayers? And it seems to me that these guys cause more trouble than they're worth.
I'll say it again, we need to get the money out of college sports and cap university salaries to the statutory limit -- and if "boosters" want to feel like real bigshots, control everything, and think that football is so important to a university's livelihood, let them cover the gap and invest in the facilities too.
Just imagine what ANY university could do with $5 Million a year.
I am an alumnus of an SEC school not located in Mississippi. I also lived in MS from 1994-2014. I do not have a dog in this fight.
I feel compassion for Freeze, as he must have been living a sinful, double life, tortured internally by guilt. I feel more compassion for his wife and three daughters, the real victims here. I truly hope he can repair his damaged family, because as Paul said, "All have sinned and come short of the glory of God." We ALL have feet of clay to one degree or another. This is also a black eye for all professing Christians, since Coach Freeze chose to define - in extremely poor judgment - his very identity that way.
Finally, I just finished reading Shattered, the postmortem on the Hillary Clinton campaign. Many Ole Miss fans, here and elsewhere, are blaming outside forces for their program's demise, when everything was self-inflicted.
Gene's Leg Humper Page - Now that is what I call a reliable, independent source.
8:39 I wonder how many MSU fans can't wait to rib the UM fans at church tomorrow.
Anonymous said...
1:39, with Hugh being a USM grad brings a whole 'nother can of worms.....a family that owns a large bridge building company in Hattiesburg controls USM and is a UM grad. That's right UM! But when you have money, you have power and that's what's going on in college football.
Nonsense
So many comments and social media posts illustrating American Christianity's descent into the "Delete Browser History Button" religion.
"We all have sinned, and need to think of Hugh and his wife and daughters right now." This, hundreds and hundreds of times over, without one damn mention of the girls trapped in the sex trade he helped fuel with his money. Nineteen and twenty-year olds, who also have families. Who statistically, probably ran away from home, got addicted to drugs, and got sucked into what amounts to slavery in many cases.
But so long as we can give Hugh and his girls a big hug by the latte bar in the megachurch, and cry it out, and ask Jesus to forgive him, everything is A-OK.
Girls in the sex trade? Players who lost games to OM due to cheating? Kids who looked up to Freeze, and now think faith is a joke?
None of it matters! Because your sins are washed away! And that's what matters in Modern American Christianity: YOU! And your future. And your friends. And your prosperity. And never the consequences; those are somebody else's problem.
Anonymous said: Anonymous said, he said, but I said, but yet said, but...wait..what did I say?
Take a hobby.
Projection of your own self-hatred is not a productive hobby.
Anybody have a solution for the other 900,000 problems our state has other than a 3rd rate football program?
I hear another leg snapping. Worry about your other issues.
They are obese.
PittPanther is obviously a dirty heartless Yankee that has no idea about the South. I don't blame him. I can't think of a worse state than Pennsylvania.
Anonymous said: Anonymous said, he said, but I said, but yet said, but...wait..what did I say?
Take a hobby.
Projection of your own self-hatred is not a productive hobby.
Anybody have a solution for the other 900,000 problems our state has other than a 3rd rate football program?
I hear another leg snapping. Worry about your other issues.
They are obese.
9:33 You are probably right. I think a lot of my Red & Blue friends will be 'at the fair' tomorrow. I don't understand how they were so blinded by this for so long. The rest of the country could see it.
I am an MSU grad. When Rick Stansberry was at MSU he got a lot of good players for a long time. I always wondered if he cheated. As far as I know he was never officially accused of breaking any rules or investigated. BUT - if the discussion came up I never told my Red & Blue friends - 'Rick is a fine Christian, a great family man, he loves his players, they love him, and he loves MSU. And I would be shocked if he is cheating.' All of those statements are true except the one that I would be shocked if he is cheating. I would always say - I don't know if he is cheating. His personal life seemed squeaky clean but the players were almost too good. I still don't know if he cheated.
I just never could understand why so many Red & blue fans were convinced Freeze did not cheat when there was really no other believable explanation.
Anyone that is attacking Hugh Freeze here obviously never heard of the time that Marcel Ledbetter tore up that beer joint. Jerry Clower was away at MS State at the time when it happened and the Amite County Sheriff drove up to Starkville and had them syringes wide open. Jerry got in and they went straight to see Marcel. He said "there's enough of you left and I'm gonna help you because you're my friend." We all gather our stones to throw to quickly. Queue the sermon by Dr. Pollard.
Surely Kim Wade is not as stupid as his post would seem to indicate.
Even if there was ONLY one call (forget the pattern comment from Bjork), a lot can be accomplished in one minute. You can verify that nine hookers will be on site as arranged with a one minute call several days prior to signing date. You can verify that your two favorite gals (or guys) will show up somewhere for your own pleasure as already agreed to. Or, he could simply have said, "Tell me again how you like it" and then put it on speaker..........hold on for the one minute ride.
Now, since it's Sunday and time for Kingfish's Sunday Sermon, I will enter my prayer closet and pray for redemption.
"No Winners Here said...I am an alumnus of an SEC school not located in Mississippi. I also lived in MS from 1994-2014. I do not have a dog in this fight."
Actually, you DO have a dog in this fight. This is a huge black mark on the face of college football from one side of this nation to another.
2:06 pm So you're ethical code is that it's bad that Freeze hurt his wife and teenage daughters but it's ok for you to add to their pain and humiliation?
Yes, Freeze was a "holier than thou hypocrite" and I don't like such hypocrites either, but those who gloat and enjoy the suffering of others are just mean and meanness is worse than hypocrisy.
And, which is more hypocritical for a Christian? Discreetly seeking a prostitute or indiscreetly having affairs multiple times,admiring the body of another man's wife in your wife's presence and lewdly bragging about your prowess in adultery with women while your wife is pregnant as has someone for whom you likely voted? And, if you did vote for that person, doesn't your glee about Freeze make YOU a hypocrite?
I think you are the poster child for "it takes one to know one", scumbag.
I have a question. I thought the Manning family had input or more into Hugh being hired, right or wrong? If true has anyone seen or heard from them about this mess. If they did not my bad, just asking.
Their entire athletic department has fallen apart just nobody has reported on the turmoil from within. Coach was a solid guy and all they can say is a pattern of behavior. The chancellor has been wanting to get rid of him since he took office. That team is going to be horrible this year and what they really need to do is fire the athletic director because he's lost all confidence from the fans as well as his inner circle. Coach you will be ok and we will miss you. You are the only reason we attended games.
Kim Wade: Are you really that stupid?
Pitt Panther can kiss my Southern ass and stick a ripe cob up his own. Here, you preachy-toad, is a bit about the difference between gentlemen and Christians from the South and those from your stinking neck of the woods:
"When John B. Gordon entered York, Pennsylvania he found the population in a state of Panic, fearing retaliation for Union atrocities against Southern Civilians. He gathered a large crowd of women in the street and told them this:
“Our Southern homes have been pillaged, sacked and burned; our mothers, wives and little ones driven forth amid the brutal insults of your soldiers. Is it any wonder that we fight with desperation? A natural revenge would prompt us to retaliate in kind. But we scorn to war on women and children. We are fighting for the God given rights of liberty and independence as handed down in the Constitution by our fathers. So fear not. If a torch is applied to a single dwelling or an insult offered to a female of your town by a soldier of this command, point me out that man and you shall have his life."
There is only one thing worse than a damned yankee who has fallen prey to the inaccurate history and false narrative of Lincoln's war and that is a damned yankee with that affliction who has moved to the South.
The Mississippi alums ran out of Chruch before I could get their reactions....
what if someone else was using Freeze's phone?
I have many MSU friends. Most have treated this situation in a mature fashion. Some have shown themselves to be very little people. They have been giddy and have been celebrating this man's failure. How sad we celebrate someone's failure. Why hate a school, it's alumni, it's students and it's players so relentlessly. Sad to say, but they will no longer be my friends. I am raising my standards.
9:49, Thank you.
All the hysteria and hypocrisy aside, a special thank you to "For A Toad Among Us...said..."
What great history and a wonderful life lesson. John B Gordon set a fine example of what being a man of good faith is all about.
On another note;
If we can just get the damn NCAA to come in and investigate most of the state, county and city governments in Mississippi for loss of institutional control, the everyday tax payer might see some daylight.
@8:56, you have been saying the same thing I have! HE IS A STATE EMPLOYEE making $90k plus A WEEK!!!! This is STUPID and they keep recruiting players who can't pass the 8th grade! This is CRAP!!! I'm so sick and tired of how these 2 universities hate one another. Is this how low we have sunken? It even drags over into business dealings. Get money out of the equation, start MAKING these athletes get a proper education stop thinking football is God. This reminds me why I didn't go to college. Damn bunch of kids.
7:27~
"Meaness is worse than hypocrisy"?
I don't think so. None of this would have happened if Hugh would have thought about his wife and kids instead of making them a public humiliation. Freeze is a public figure. He enjoys the benefits of being a quasi-celebrity. I bet he enjoyed the best table at Oxford restaurants and preferential treatment because of his position. Unfortunately he abused his position AND his family.
Nobody is saying or advocating that his kids or wife should be attacked or hurt further. Hugh has already done enough damage with his own selfish actions. But to think that they are not part of the discussion is just stupid.
Finally, this all has NOTHING to do with "Christianity" or religion. It has to do with ethics and doing the right thing. I am not religious, but I bet I treat my family better than Holy Hugh.
So, please keep your sanctimonious comments to yourself. As a public failure, High is open to criticism and judgement.
Cannot wait for the "pattern of conduct" to be exposed. I would think Colonel Reb will be hanging his head in shame.
Summa you people have it all wrong. Nobody is celebrating failure. Nobody is celebrating an impending sanction. Nobody is celebrating the crumbling foundation of a major university. What is being celebrated is this charleton's fall from his self created pedestal. And we are celebrating the fact that he, personally, is getting a large dose of commupance after so arrogantly preaching to us for years that he is a man of God and therefore above any impropriety.
So, please, enough of all the preachy finger pointing admonishing others to bend a knee and pray for his soul. Right now, though, I will continue to hand him a new shovel every time he wears one out.
Coach Freeze: Coach Nutt is the reason our football program is under investigation
Coach Nutt: That's a lie and I demand an apology and a retraction
Unv. Of Miss. President/Athletic Director/Freeze: We will not retract nor apologize.
Coach Nutt: No one will hire me now. Remember the Bible verse about casting
stones?
Unv. Of Miss. President/Athletic Director/Freeze: We don't care. We are riding the Freeze gravy train.
Coach Nutt: OK. If that's how you feel. Get ready for the Nutt train boys. It's gonna run you, the football program and the University right into the ditch.
NCAA: What Coach Nutt doesn't finish, we will.
Kudos to Steve Robertson on finding a way to inject himself into another Ole Miss story. Let's talk about his Twitter DMs . . .
For all of those who so chose to worship the Sport of Football. You would do well by upending the institution and stop enslaving the young black boys who think this is their only way out. Prove it. You, yes you have enslaved THOUSANDS of young black boys so you can go to pay your games on Saturday and root and cheer all the way to the bank, because a lot of you make side bets and furnish cash and goods to these young blacks. I say this because you know there are only a few sprinkles of whites in the mix and YOU send your kids to private schools and give money to private schools for "scholarships " to bring the young black boys into your midst. YOU make White Flight a reality because YOU move from one area to the next because the blacks move in, but you want them as your convenience so you can live out your dreams of having power over them, THEN you go to what some call a church which is actually a country club with a steeple, give money to the mission funds to make yourself feel good, maybe assist a church member to adopt a child from Africa and that makes it all better. Then you feel like you are forgiven. You better realize the truth.....Slavery is still alive and YOU as a booster or whoever you may choose to identify yourself is the Master....or so you think. Just wait until the names come out! All of you think you are above this know you are wrong. All for the name of a DAMN SPORT which doesn't amount to a hill of beans!
for myself, i am concerned for all my christian friends who are bears who are devastated now that their idol is gone but i am more concerned for freezus' alleged underage victims as reported @ high school in the last link below....
(1) a pompous ass jams "WIN-THE-RIGHT-WAY" freezus down the bears' willing throats....
(2) freezus was NOT in tampa.....
(3) freezus' victims from prior high school getting courage to come forward now....
(4) there is just so much information coming out now in public now.....
Ole Miss Alumn!!! It's time to wake up and take your University back. These people took your mascot and now have ruined your football program. Want to make a change? Don't buy one sporting ticket. Stand outside the games and refuse to go inside. Demand competent leadership. But you won't. You will continue to support the sports programs and show no regard for your institution and the powers to be will continue to run over you and Ole Miss.
9:04 wrote "....fire the athletic director because he's lost all confidence from the fans as well as his inner circle..."
How about fire the AD because he had THREE different sports cheating at the same time; because the football cheating went on for years; and because he continued to risk the reputation of the University on Fibbing Freeze for years after it was quite plain to anyone who cared to look that he could not be getting players honestly.
Based on my idol, Kenneth I Stokes. I would assume he he forced ro resign because of racism. We should all boycott Ole Miss, the SEC and Nissan.
Anybody who thinks Freeze was calling an escort service to get himSELF a date is an absolute idiot. He was making arrangements for certain contributors to the athletic department. It is always....ALWAYS...about money. Freeze (like every other coach) did what he had to do to keep the money coming in.
"what if someone else was using Freeze's phone?"
What if unicorn piss smelled like shrimp?
3:55, I agree with everything you said. Except for the very last sentence, of course.
So, 9:28 -- are we going to continue to focus on the symptoms, or get to the heart of the problem? It seems as though everybody on this site is ignoring the underlying issue here -- money in college sports. Get the money and influence out, and boosters have nothing to gain from the university system and the university can focus on its core mission instead of focusing on fund raising. The endowments also need a close look - who's managing the money, and what fees are they collecting??
So far the best comment compares all the preachy-imposters who are praying for the family to the real victims...the young girls who are probably sold into sex slavery and are either runaways or lost in a world of drugs and pimpery. The Freeze girls and First Momma are not the victims here. Those other girls are. And Hugh and assholes like him are the victimizers.
The girls on the other end of Freeze's phone are not thirty year old women in tennis skirts making a little money on the side. They are or could be 'everybody's daughters'.
3:55 When I was in high school blacks were not allowed to play football at white schools. As I recall there was a lot of complaining about that. Now, blacks are welcomed at traditionally white schools. They are 'paid' the same way that college players have always been paid - free education, room & board, training, coaching, medical care. You think they are 'enslaved'. Did you think the players were enslaved in 1965 when they were all white? Do you want to return to that?
Who cares? Frankly I'm tired of hearing about all of this.
So the guy is a sanctimonious hypocrite - save the state a bunch of money and find someone who's hungry for success at a fraction of the price. Perhaps the state should reorient its recruiting efforts to find a coach who's striving for the next level, instead of trying to sell itself as an apex program. As we all can see, this is expensive and attracts all kinds of unintended consequences. It doesn't matter whether he bought whores for himself, a booster, or a player - he did it on the taxpayer's time and on their dime.
What these guys do is an insult to the state, both ethically and economically.
So...SOLVE THE PROBLEM AND GET THE MONEY OUT OF COLLEGE SPORTS.
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