Sunday, April 9, 2017

Stupid is as stupid does.

Three hoodlums were killed when they broke into a home in Oklahoma last week.  The homeowner's son used an AR-15 to kill all three intruders.  A grandfather of one of the deceased outraged that someone would dare shoot his little hoodlum.  KTUL reported:


A family member of one of the three teen suspects killed after breaking into a Wagoner County home Monday is speaking out for the first time.

The grandfather of Jacob Redfearn believes shooting and killing the 17-year-old and his friends was not needed.

 “What these three boys did was stupid," said Leroy Schumacher.

Schumacher agrees his grandson and his friends made a bad decision, but not one worthy of deadly consequences.
“They knew they could be punished for it but they did not deserve to die," said Schumacher.

Redfearn, 19-year old Maxwell Cook and 16-year old Jake Woodruff were shot by the homeowner’s son while breaking into the Wagoner County house Monday.

Schumacher says his grandson didn't have a chance. The 17-year old, he says, never got into trouble. “Brass knuckles against an AR-15, come on, who was afraid for their life," said Schumacher. (KF: Another perp had a knife.). ...  Rest of article. Audio recording of 911 call is included.

3 on 1 is fair.  A gun against 3 is not fair.  Got it. 

28 comments:

Anonymous said...

KF no grandfather wants to see their grandson get killed at the hands of someone. Even if they "deserved" it. It does not make the grandfather stupid it makes him human.

Anonymous said...

I suppose papaw would allow 3 criminals break in to his house, let one beat the shit out of him, let the other one stab him while the other stole him blind. If he survived tell them ITS ALL GOOD COME AGAIN ANYTIME.

What a moron. I hate that his grandson is dead but his grandson made the choice to break in to a home and harm , if need be, the owner. The home owner made the choice to defend himself in his own home. The owner now has to live with the choice he made.

I wish more homeowners in Jackson would defend themselves.

Wrongful death lawsuits to follow.

someoneinnorthms said...

Why in the world would anybody ever NEED an AR-15 (to paraphrase Piers Morgan's questions after Sandy Hoax)? To repel an invasion. To be able to stand a chance when it's 3 on 1. Etc. Etc. Etc.

Bravo for the homeowner's son. I hope and pray he never loses a moment's sleep.

Anonymous said...

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.

Anonymous said...

breaking into occupied dwellings is kind of like CAR RACING AND PARACHUTING, which are considered inherently dangerous sports. such sport have a built in risk.

Anonymous said...

Never bring a knife (or brass knuckles) to a gunfight.

Anonymous said...

I prefer my Benelli M4 Tactical with 3 inch mag 00 buck.

Anonymous said...

AR-15s are useful to repel general thuggery (cf., supra), but also to accommodate that whole "well regulated militia" thing.

Anonymous said...

Maybe in Grandpa's neighborhood, they ask intruders what kind of weapons they have so that a fair fight ensues. In my house, I figure the intruder is there to steal my stuff and harm me and my family. Thus, I think the death penalty appropriate. Grandpa acknowledges the intruders were stupid. But, not surprisingly, he doesn't acknowledge how WRONG it is to break and enter a residence, much less an occupied residence. I'd say the failure to understand or care about that part of it is what cost Mr. Brass knuckles his life. And the gene pool got a little bit better. Let's hope Grandpa can't produce offspring anymore.

Anonymous said...

Ice Cube said it best, IMO: "Busting caps in the mix, rather be judged by twelve than carried by six!" Let me say, I hate that these teens made the decision to commit a crime that could very well cost them their lives, but THEY MADE THAT DECISION. They could have just as easily made the decision to NOT commit this crime. I don't care if the homeowner or the person rightfully occupying the home had a sling shot! The right was there to defend his home! That doesn't mean I play 20 questions with you when you enter with THREE! This is why I've raised 3 sons, all doing well today, successfully! I warned them about this behavior, you don't steal. Make your money yourself, get what you need and WANT legitimately, and don't let anyone take it away from you, at least not easily when you can defend yourself!

Anonymous said...

Those young punks no doubt presented a frightening sight to the occupant -dressed all in black with gloves and masks. And they had kicked the back door open. Anyone that bold I would've considered armed. Apparently there was a very brief verbal exchange before the shooting started.

Anonymous said...

The kids life will be screwed up forever, you will read about him again and it won't be nice.

Anonymous said...

The guy didn't "need an AR-15" for this. A shotgun or a bolt-action rifle would've done just fine (to say nothing of a handgun).

Anonymous said...

Who cares what the kid used to defend himself? Frying pan or AR, matters not. They broke into an occupied dwelling. I regret the loss of life, but as they say, play stupid games and win stupid prizes. Any hand wringing about how the victim defended himself, and those distinctions are very important (victim and defense) is absurd. Those three young men would still be stealing oxygen had they simply not chosen to commit this particular crime.

Anonymous said...

9:12, they had been there earlier, and came back. of course the family would be on alert? what were they after so bad?

Anonymous said...

That's one... no... THREE for the good guys!

Anonymous said...

7:58 nailed it. It's not about who deserves what. You break into a house you can get shot.

Anonymous said...

I'm going to guess that the grandfather would think that three black guys who gets gunned down would be fine, but his white grandson was murdered.

Personally, I'm glad those three thugs are dead. They got what the deserved.

Anonymous said...

KF no grandfather wants to see their grandson get killed at the hands of someone. Even if they "deserved" it. It does not make the grandfather stupid it makes him human.

Well, if the grandfather was the primary child-rearer, he did a lousy job. I'm sure he's heartbroken, but the boy made a decision. And, I would add, there's no need for quotation marks in your second sentence. The kid definitely deserved it. The planet is rid of three sociopaths and is consequently a better place.

Anonymous said...

to 6:41 am .....dont panic mr legal expert. wrongful death suits don't always " follow" icing a thug. don't be a hysterical fool . that retied doctor in east over who took out that thug carjacker a couple of years ago was never sued. that mcdowell road self defense shooting wrongful death suit is nothing but a publicity stunt by that clown carlos tanner. people use the legal system for publicity all the time. its nothing new.

Anonymous said...

Damn, 3:19 who pissed in your Cherrios this morning? I'm well aware of how people waste the legal system's time. It was a simple statement of what could be expected.

No need to be an condescending ass about it.

Anonymous said...

As I see it, "Grandad" did a shitty job, raising the piece of shit who contributed half the DNA for making the CRIMINAL who got killed. It's "family values" like "Grandad's", which caused the problem, in the first place.

I am VERY GLAD those three are dead. They DID "deserve to die". Their continued existence would have made the world a worse place. Their deaths made the world a BETTER place. MORE people like that need to die, preferably, before they can make SUBHUMAN babies with little whores like the driver of the Getaway Car (she's already whelped-out a couple of litters, apparently).

Anonymous said...

“There’s got to be a limit to that law, I mean he shot all three of them; there was no need for that," said Schumacher.

Which ones should he have shot?

Eeny, Meeny, Miny, Moe?

Anonymous said...

why would someone break into a home with brass knuckles if NOT to harm someone? of course the police deemed it justified shooting! what DA is going to prosecute this case?

grandpa's little angel would have robbed you blind, but never killed anyone. hey--didn't we hear that from some baby mama around jackson?

trash is trash, no matter the color of the outside..

Del Frisco said...

We definitely need more "feel good" stories like this.

Anonymous said...

to april10 @3:54............you are just one more republican who cannot handle the truth. you have lots of company here in your third world country you call mississippi

Anonymous said...

To April 11 @8:52, You indicate you live in what you consider a third world county called Mississippi. If you don't like it get the hell out!!! Go back to where ever it is you came from...We don't want you.

Anonymous said...

to 10:25

"need an Ar-15"......

"Need" has nothing to do with what kind of weapon I choose. It's "what I want" that makes the decision..

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