Thursday, November 5, 2015

They are still looking for votes in Madison County. UPDATE: BANKS LOSES BY 1 VOTE.

UPDATE: Ms. Fowler just tweeted "BREAKING: David Bishop appears to have won Madison County Supervisor District 4 by ONE VOTE"

Update: Ms. Fowler is now streaming through periscope on her phone. 

Follow the Clarion-Ledger's Sarah Fowler on Twitter to keep up with the scavenger hunt in Madison County as several candidates look for more votes.  Her Twitter handle is @fowlersarah.  Here are some updates from this morning:


So NOW we have voters who may have voted for supervisor district 1 instead of 4.

 Will the missing ballots be found? "I feel like they will but I can't guarantee it."

 Banks' lawyer just said they'll challenge all ballots that came from The Links if they voted wrong

Pete Perry is now on the scene and probably helping the Bishop camp.  Things just got serious.  Now Dorsey and Karl are getting a dose of their own medicine.  Ms. Fowler just tweeted:

 This Pete fella is new today. He's vocally disagreeing with dang near everything.
She has no clue. Hehehe. 

39 comments:

Anonymous said...

Keep the stew stirring and the fire hot Pete.

Anonymous said...

Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire and some jobs call for a difficult person. This is were Pete is needed. Time for stealing elections to stop.

Anonymous said...

Good on you to point directly to her. She's a local great resource, and an entertaining follow when not hounding MadCo news.

bill said...

I feel better about Bishop's chances with Pete Perry in the room.

Anonymous said...

So Banks needs 19 of these last 22 to win. 86%. Tall order.

Anonymous said...

True, KF. "She has no clue" - not just about Pete but anything. The Ledger has fired anyone with any credibility or ability to report the true news.

Anonymous said...

if a vote is a tie what is tie breaker

Anonymous said...

Bishop wins by 1 but Banks falls short by 2.

Anonymous said...

Fowler did a good job with the Twitter play-by-play and the Periscope netcast. Not sure anyone really wants to know Pete Perry.

Anonymous said...

Isn't there another affidavit ballot waiting for voter to come and show ID?

Anonymous said...

If 'Bill' feels good I feel extremely doubtful. He's not been shown to be very reliable.

Anonymous said...

Not so fast my friends… Word is that the voter in question just showed up with their ID.

Tie ball game.

Burke said...

One vote? Shades of Crankshaft.

Anonymous said...

Nope, the voter with the missing ID already included in the 17.

Anonymous said...

its tied

bill said...

This thread isn't about me, 3:27. You need to get a life and quit stalking me out here. The election's over and I lost, but I'm still allowed to have an opinion and in this case my opinion still stands. Pete Perry knows more about election law than most election attorneys, and anyone who has him in his corner has a better chance to prevail. Kingfish is still allowing my posts so I guess he hasn't banned me, so why don't you put up or shut up about the subject at hand instead of giggling behind your anonymity like a little schoolgirl? I'll make myself available at your convenience if you'd rather meet in person to discuss my reliability. Bill Billingsley

Anonymous said...

Guess I was wrong. SCREW Karl Banks.

Anonymous said...

Bill, Bill, Bill don't respond to the anonymous trolls. They can dog you out and you can ignore it because they are anonymous. The mas macho bit in your last sentence is unnecessary and lowers you to the level of Ben Allen.

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bill said...

Et tu, 5:50? Et tu?

Walk a hundred feet in my shoes and see if you don't lose your temper every now and then. Try to do the best you can at something you think is important, and be as gracious as you know how to be in defeat and then quietly eat the feces thrown at you from nameless cowards. I'm old and I guess I'm getting cranky, but I was raised to be direct in what I say and civil in how I say it, but only to a point. This was supposed to be about the Madison mess, and I guess I inadvertently turned it in the direction of Pete Perry, but it wasn't about my "reliability" at any point. It won't do me any good to challenge the little girl at 3:27, and maybe it diminishes me in your eyes and others, but I feel pretty good about it. BB

Anonymous said...

When Pete walked in the room, y'all should have seen the look on Dorsey Carson's face...priceless. You could actually see the guy's shoulders deflate.

Remember a couple of years in Canton's Ward 1 race; I think it was an alderman race. It ended up in Court, and the side that went up against Pete in the courtroom, didn't stand a chance.

Pete is a walking Mississippi Election Code. They'd have an point to present, Pete would say "well, that isn't what the law says in the MEC", then quote the law off the top of his head...they'd stop, take a look at the MEC, and find that Pete, naturally, was right. Maybe the judge accepted the point, maybe not...but you gotta be at the top of your game against Pete.

Thank You Bill said...

Bill. You've always had a thick skin. Don't worry about anything here unless you think it is actionable in a court of law.

Kingfish has a reason for continuing to allow anonymity here and it actually enhances our democracy and encourages freedom of speech versus detract from it.

You didn't serve for Obama's world, you served for the soapbox that Kingfish allows 99% of the numbskulls and foks who would otherwise have no voice to stand on every day.

You are part of the #1 TRULY UNIQUE online community in ALL OF MISSISSIPPI and I, for one, thank you for weighing in.

Kingfish ain't perfect but there is no single person in our whole damn state defending freedom of speed in his actions and deed than the owner of JacksonJambalaya.com. NONE. Not one.

Calm Down Fat Boy said...

Just stopped by here to check out the Bill Billingsly 'pity party'. I woulda brought popcorn but figured Bill was providing the food. Actually I did not know Billingsly was the 'Bill' posting earlier. Some people seem to think every damned thing is all about THEM! It ain't!

Anonymous said...

Give em hell bill

Anonymous said...

You can rest assured that anything that can be done will be done to keep Banks in office. They redrew his and Griffins district several years ago to assure their districts stayed in favor of them. NOW, all of a sudden they're finding absentee and affidavit ballots in closets, bags and lord know where else.

If folks want to scream fraud NOW is the time to start.

Anonymous said...


Pete's cheating. He apparently read the election laws.

Anonymous said...

Banks has a lot of support from big developers and contractors. Of course, Rudy is his biggest "contributor".

Anonymous said...

Of course Rudy is his biggest contributor. If Banks is gone, Rudy is gone and he may very well be gone even if Banks wins. Steen holds all the cards on the MCBOS now. Steen is in the catbird seat and you can bet your ass Rudy is going to start pumping money where ever he needs it.

Anonymous said...

Any updates

Anonymous said...

Rudy may be selling his Club Level seats at MSU.

Anonymous said...

What is the true story here? The C-L gave the whole front page to this story, saying it is tied and might end up with a coin flip? Have they had a recount? It is my OPINION that Banks is as crooked as they come and getting rid of him will be a boon for my county.

Pete Perry said...

Sorry, 7:40. In Mississippi we don't have 'recounts'. But even if we did, they have not finished the 'count' yet. Until the final results are determined, probably Tuesday evening, the actual result will not be known. What is known now is that based on 'unofficial' counting, the two have equal number of votes. If it stays that way after all the votes in the entire county for all races have been counted, then it will be declared a tie and there will be a 'drawing of lots' to determine the winner.

And then - it opens up the next stage of elections. It might result in an election contest but that is pure assumption. Just because it is a close election does not automatically mean that there was something wrong and it needs remedy. But at this point, its all speculation.

Anonymous said...

Thanks Pete. Not having a supervised recount in a tie situation is crazy though. Errors happen, and if a miscount can be detected and corrected the outcome would be fair and honest. If it is still tied then a coin flip or whatever would be appropriate.

Short Straw said...

What is the definition of 'drawing of lots'?

Anonymous said...

@ 5:56

Drawing straws, flipping a coin, tossing stones............

Anonymous said...

Bet Rudy has a double headed nickel they can use

Anonymous said...

I'm curious to know who will be the official "Coin Tosser".

Who does it? the Circuit Clerk, The Sheriff?

Pete Perry said...

If the Election Commission chose to count all the ballots again - before certification - they can. So as additional info to 8:29, the instance you raise of possible error, they can count again if they chose. But recognize that now, under today's systems, the count is done by computer/scanner. There is actually little 'counting' of votes - what there is is a canvassing of the return materials to make sure all has been done appropriately.

There is, still, an opportunity to discover the 'error' that you refer to as possible. A losing candidate can examine the ballot box materials and do whatever count the candidate chooses. If candidate finds an error then that can produce an election contest. But it is not considered a recount.

As to the drawing of lots, it can be whatever method the candidates choose - flipping a coin, drawing straws, rock/paper/scissors, or as I have suggested a duel at ten paces. (The duel method provides finality, and avoids any future contest!) The flipper of the coin? Good question. No specific individual stated in the code or the process to be used. Next question - who gets to call it?

Anonymous said...

It is obvious the incumbent gets to choose which side, and chooses heads. The election commissioner flips the coin.



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