Wednesday, November 4, 2015

Nancy unhinged

This is some of the crap that was put out by Nancy Loome and her Parents Campaign on Initiative 42 in their talking points "factsheets":

Initiative 42 gives Mississippi children the same right to education that the children in other states have had for decades

Every other state constitution in our country has a constitutional mandate regarding school funding. Other states also have some descriptor that defines a minimum level of quality regarding the schools that the state is responsible for providing. Mississippi’s constitution lacks both a mandate and a minimum level of quality.

Our constitution mandates only that public schools be free. That’s it, just free. So, the Legislature could abolish grades 9 through 12, they could completely decimate public schools by slashing their budgets in half, and none of it would be unconstitutional so long as the remaining schools are free. Initiative 42 seeks to change that by mandating that “adequate” support be provided. That is what parents are pushing for, and that is what opponents are fighting against – a constitutional right to an adequate education for Mississippi children.

It gets even better.

 False claim: “Initiative 42 will require cuts to other agency’s budgets and/or a tax increase.”

Initiative 42 calls for a phase-in of full funding using only 25% of any new growth in state revenue. This was spelled out on every petition signed by each of the nearly 200,000 parents, educators, and community leaders who worked hard to get Initiative 42 on the November ballot.

25%? That might have been what they said it said but the "25% of any new growth in state revenue" claim appears nowhere in the language that would be inserted into the constitution.  Its nice, it sounds pretty, but it doesn't mean anything because it will not exist in the constitution. PERIOD!!! It has no force of law.  A Chancellor is more than free to ignore it and no appeals court will fault him for ignoring it. 

So who was fearmongering? Who was lying? Stop education at ninth grade? Really? Not even the Bilbos and Barnetts tried that trick.  This is simply ridiculous and is not taken seriously by any reasonable person.  Read it for yourself either below or on the Parents Campaign website.


Anonymous said...

Heard from reliable source two weeks ago who is connected into Democrats that their House District candidates up and down the state were sensing trouble on the horizon for 42 as they talked to voters. Many of those candidates realized their support for 42 was bordering on a liability and stopped bringing up 42 altogether instead shifting their campaign messaging to focus on support for strong public schools in general. You don't dump the money into a campaign that the 42 advocates spent without polling. My experienced guess is that Loome's hysterics had to have been the result of her knowing that polling was indicating an extremely tight election and maybe even the loss that happened.

Anonymous said...

Racism still rules.

I won't be around to see it, but Mississippi 50 years from now does not look pretty. As Mississippi falls farther and farther behind nearby states, there will be a substantial drain on people with a decent education. Youngsters with degrees will have to move to Georgia, Texas, Florida, even Tennessee for the six-figure incomes that will not exist here.

Meanwhile the uneducated percent of Mississippians will continue to grow, happy to live off transfer payments and taking whatever they can get their hands on from wherever they see it lying around.

People who think what has happened in Jackson can't happen to the entire state need to rethink that.

The state's "leadership" is the worst I've ever seen (I'm 70). The Legislature is a broken institution filled with cowards with no moral center.

But we brought it on ourselves. We deserve what's coming.

Johnny Weir said...

12:59 PM Take a chill pill.

Anonymous said...

Amen 12:59.

Anonymous said...

1259 YOU NAILED IT ( Just look around ANY $ Store clients)

Anonymous said...

Your predictions hold no truth. It's a senseless assumption. Hell look at Dr. Ben Carson came from an awful Detroit inner city school and his mother couldn't read. Problem here is no school choice!

Anonymous said...

12:59 is 100% correct

Bill Dees said...

@12:59 is EXACTLY right! Charter schools will suck money from already cash-poor districts, leading to even more failure.

Anonymous said...

Amen again 12:59. And the powers that be - a decidedly mediocre bunch, wouldn't you agree - want it to be just as it is. Give me my Bible and my bass boat, boys, and leave me alone.

Bill Dees said...

Here's what Joe Nosef, Chairman of the Mississippi Republican Party, said in a press release found on the official MSGOP web site: "We expanded our majorities in both the House and the Senate, and picked up Republicans in local offices all across our state. Finally, we defeated the Democrat Party’s last chance at a victory by tricking voters - Initiative 42." The truth is that Mississippi Republicans, for the most part, don't like public education and would be happy to see it just disbanded.

Damn you progs said...

Can any of you pro-42 people tell me how money gets a kid to sit his ass down, stop spitting at the teacher and shut the hell up and listen? Can you explain how money stops kids from standing up in class, dry humping girls and doin the "Nae Nae" while the teacher is trying to teach?

Anonymous said...

12:59, you lost me at "Racism still rules."

If you are so lacking in sophistication that you can only see one reason for the defeat of 42, then you aren't worth listening to. We get enough of that narrow-mindedness-masquerading-as-tolerance-and-compassion crap from the ivory towers of New York, Washington, and Los Angeles. We don't need it from our own citizens who should bloody well know better.

Anonymous said...

Who is this Nancy Loome? Does she have a real job?

Anonymous said...


2:35's right. NO amount of additional money is gonna change a culture like this for the better... that has to come from within.

Anonymous said...

Racism? I don't think so. Tribalism? Probably closer to the mark. It is the human condition - we protect what we believe to be in our best interest. Folks that share a common "best interest" band together and fight those that have opposing interest. It has always existed, and is why we have a country called United States of America - our "best interest" were different than England's.

Our problem in Mississippi is not one of education. It is a lack of employment opportunities and that is NOT related in most cases to a poorly educated workforce. If that held true the Nissan and Toyota plants would not have located in the state. We have excellent universities, some top notch secondary schools (primarily private), and good community colleges. But what good is all the education in the world if you cannot apply it to gainful employment? Our history shows that schools, communities, and ultimately cities follow industry (not just factories, but technology, etc.). I am not aware of any industry that suddenly shows up in a county primarily for a standalone school system no matter how well it performs. Industry selects a location for numerous reasons, not just an educated workforce. Solve the jobs problem in MS and we will solve the education problem - plenty of tax dollars and with full employment EVERYONE will support education. Right now we are fighting over an ever diminishing pie.

Anonymous said...

Who is this Nancy Loome? Does she have a real job?

Yes, yes she does. She's a paid shill.

Anonymous said...

12:59 More wisdom in fewer words in a Long time on JJ

Anonymous said...

Bill Dees said, " The truth is that Mississippi Republicans, for the most part, don't like public education and would be happy to see it just disbanded."

Please tell me this is satire. Such demonizing has no shame. If written seriously then Bill Dees is an amoral lout who holds that the means of his lies will justify his perverted ends.

Toilet Seat Height Engineer said...

@12:59 PM obviously longs for the good old days of 100% control by the Mississippi Democratic Party, er, 100% control by the white Democrats of the Mississippi Democratic Party that took us from hand written receipts to mechanical cash registers.

Anonymous said...

How many times is 12:59 going to self-congratulate?

Shoeless/Toothless said...

Hell, young graduates have to leave the state now - not just in the future. Decent-paying jobs are hard to find in this state. And lest I forget, the no-compete clause that virtually every Mississippi employer forces their employees to sign, also comes in play. In years past, this was called indentured servitude.

Of course, as I understand it, attorneys are exempt. Not a big surprise, Has something to do with "denying the populace access to legal representation". But then again, lawyers wrote the law.

Anonymous said...

If you want to read another unhinged 42er you have to go no further than Donner in her Oct 21 piece to support 42. By the time she had worked herself into full white spittle lather she had called everyone that was not pro 42 a rascist, crazy, bigot, and multiple other insults too numerous to remember. Yep Donner, you really know how to make friends and influence people. Note to,the left; if you want to lose for sure recruit Donner as your mouthpiece. Unhinged.

Anonymous said...

As a recent graduate of the Patterson School of Accountancy at Ole Miss, I can attest to what 12:59 is saying about the general feeling among soon-to-be or recent college grads relating to their future prospects if they choose to stay in state. Across the academic spectrum, the high performing kids feel pretty hopeless about moving this state out of the bottom of the statistics.

Anonymous said...

You might consider asking for refund 5:23 because if they aren't teaching you at the Patterson School of Accountancy at Ole Miss about resiliency and determination and fortitude then the paper you're holding ain't worth a whole lot.

Anonymous said...

2:35 & 2:42 are spot-on.

Anonymous said...

All the young people I know are leaving the State and I don't blame them. Not to name anyone, but all but 1 of the children of the leaders of the Public Schools clan and the supporters of 41 have left the State. We have thrown money at the schools and nothing has improved. I personally blame the leaders of the school district. They are not interested in giving children a good education. They are interested in numbers. One of my best friends worked in the public school and she got down on her knees every morning and prayed she would live long enough to go home that afternoon. She was ordered to pass students who had done nothing but disrupt classes. She finally got to the point that she would divide her classes: the ones who wanted to learn and the ones who didn't want to learn. All she asked was that the ones who didn't want to learn leave the ones who did alone.

Anonymous said...

12:59 is incorrect in the 50 years part. Mississippi is done, refuses to advance. Nothing positive is occurring towards developing a economic engine that moves the state forward. Have lost so much small business since the 80's it cannot be listed. Why would any Corporation select Jackson MS for a major investment? Not any pluses only negatives.
When the Federal Government is forced to suspend welfare in the form of PORK and Grants, cut pensions, cut or tax Social Security and reduce all Social Programs will move from bleak to Dark Ages.
If I am incorrect, where is the credible infrastructure upgrade plan for Jackson? Something funded and assured not relying on the good will of other states.

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