A Pearl police chase ended in a crash in Flowood. Pearl police chased a vehicle into Pearl. Unfortunately, the suspect struck a motorcycle.
A witness posted on Facebook:
Another life lost because of police chase that just ended right here in Flowood. I don’t know if I have all the details right but I believe it originated in Pearl I’m assuming & Pearl police was chasing a guy & he crashed in Flowood, I was at park with my son & heard the crash so went to go see what had happened and I realized the person fleeing hit a guy on a motorcycle and the guy was unconscious with no pulse broken bones bleeding & all that and they were trying to resuscitate him this is so sad & unfortunate prayers go out to all families involved they really need to stop chasing people honestly. (KF: Account confirmed with law enforcement.)
The suspect's vehicle struck the motorcycle, killing the driver. The Flowood Police Department issued the following statement:
Flowood Police Department is currently working an accident at Old Fannin and Flowood Drive. Flowood Police Department was assisting The Pearl Police Department with a traffic stop and there was an accident at this intersection with a fatality. The Mississippi Highway Patrol Reconstruction Team is on the scene reconstructing the accident. As a result, traffic will be blocked at this intersection a few more hours. This investigation is still ongoing.
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48 comments:
Police should continue to pursue all criminals. That is their job.
Also, if a fleeing suspect is encountered by the police, all matters of deadly force, including but not limited to machine guns should be employed to stop the fleeing criminal with complete immunity from any lawsuits or other liability for the officers involved.
....."Another life lost because of a police chase".....
WHAT AN ABSOLUTE "WOKE" THING TO SAY.
The chase did not take a life, the worthless fleeing P.O.S. that refused to stop is the ONLY one responsible for the loss of life.
I saw a video of chest compressions from a buddy of mine. Luckily, I left the park 10 minutes before this happened.
Need a law that assigns death penalty to anyone running from police in any law enforcement stop when the result of the chase is a death. Maybe life if no one dies from the chase.
WAPT tonight parroted the woke view of "its the fault of the police." The goofball they interviewed stated, "the police shouldn't chase people" when they flee.
"they really need to stop chasing people honestly" - That is an opinion.
Nowhere in the post does the author say anything about the need for people to not flee traffic stops in a reckless manner. That is BS.
In my opinion, no-chase policies emboldened people to flee traffic stops, en masse, in the fist place.
By now, there should be enough data for the people who study such things for a living to reach a conclusion on whether no-chase policies actually save lives. It should include the victims of crimes later perpetrated by those who successfully evaded arrest due to no-chase policies.
It's time to separate the facts from opinions.
I am clearly a racist as far as this blog is concerned as every comment of mine is cut. The truth hurts, doesn't it?
For me, it's a tough call on the "chase or not". 70+ years ago the thought was "you might be able to outrun the cop, but you aint gonna outrun his radio". Nowadays with onboard video and bodycams the "radio" is even more enhanced. So I have to look at it as IF someone flees a traffic stop, then just "radio" ahead. At some point, may not be instantly, but at some point you'll get your perp. Or maybe your partner down the road will catch him and wait for you. The radio still works just like it has for the past 70+ years.
Look. It's probably very very unlikely a perp that flees a traffic stop, at some short moment after fleeing, is going to have a clear moment of judgement and think "yeah, this was probably a bad idea to haul ass, and I should probably just go ahead and pull over". Has that EVER happened? Do you think it would EVER happen? Now with the cop in hot pursuit, the chances of things going wrong with high speed vehicles increases by at least a factor of 2, perhaps more if more cops join in on the chase.
Like I say. Tough call. Glad I don't do it for a living.
Another traffic ticket results in death.
Damn.
So it seems all the officers involved in this high speed pursuit were gonna fly right past Winner’s Circle Park knowing there will be kids there and families pulling out into the path of the chase as the leave to go home? Unbeknownst to the families there is a high speed chase a minute or so down the street from them, all the while the cops know exactly where they are and what’s ahead. We can all agree the suspect F’d up big time but what about the police? They didn’t prevent a tragedy. They didn’t do a damn thing to stop this fool and now someone’s father, husband, son, best friend, is dead. It’s unacceptable! Wtf are a swarm of cops chasing a single car through major intersections on main thoroughfares from an unpopulated area into a populated area? They went from pearl all the way down airport road, past the flowood police department, and no one could spin the car out and off the road? FPD couldn’t get a spike strip ready just in case? Pearl’s mayor doesn’t care. He already state such in presser. Do police really think the threat of a chase prevents crime? Do would-be criminals not commit crimes because they might end up having to run from the police? Give me a break. What a bunch of pretentious assholes. Good cops have my support don’t get me wrong, but I used to work in Pearl on hwy 80 and I watched Pearl PD drive in pairs of 2-4 cars responding to calls going well over 100 mph every single time. I never saw them with blue lights on not going over 100. I could hear the wind coming off their cars before I could see them, and I was inside a building with music on. They were constantly risking everyone’s lives around them and who knows what for. Probably someone shoplifting a pack of gum. With the technology LE has today they should be able to go get the perps after the dust settles. They can read every license plate going downnthe street, not with eyes but with technology. So they really don’t have to chase after, they know who’s who and can sick bounty hunters on em if it came down to it. It beats the hell out of what happened tonight.
The convenient speed trap on I-20 while passing through Pearl is primarily a revenue generator gives them an easy reason to bully and harass. They are trained for low-hanging fruit traffic stops. Hopefully, another lawsuit headed their way.
I'm not "woke" at all, I'm generally pro law enforcement...
-but-
Was the life of an innocent bystander can't possibly be worth whatever caused the chase.
I understand that we, as a society, can't give criminals a free pass, but neither can we risk the lives of bystanders in their pursuit. That motorcyclist had loved ones.
Having been of a decidedly conservative nature my 54 years on this planet, I'm appalled at the callousness of the comments here. What is WRONG with y'all?!?
A man lost his life over someone else's traffic violation. Not a killer-on-a-rampage, a traffic violation. Like the 2 UMMC doctors killed on State Street some years ago because of a police chase over bad checks. Again, not a murderer.
Obviously it's bad for people to run from police. But endangering the lives of COUNTLESS innocent people also on the roads over a non-violent offense is morally bankrupt (at best). Full stop.
You can be anti-criminal without excusing blatant recklessness and indifference to life by cops.
Always surprises me the number of people who would be willing to sacrifice the life of their husband, wife, son, daughter or any and maybe all of their loved ones so that the police can always get their man.
For me, catching a shoplifter or traffic violator is not worth sacrificing my life or the life of anyone I know. Aggressive policing is not keeping Flowood, Brandon, Pearl or any of the communities surrounding Jackson from looking much like Jackson.
I agree with severe punishment for those that flee police but sacrificing innocent lives just doesn’t seem worth it. My opinion doesn’t matter, and the pursuits will continue, I just hope that my loved ones are not the next to have to give their lives.
If the headlines were honest, then people would blame the criminals and not the police. The headline should be “Black male causes death and mayhem in the commission of a crime.” We all know that, the problem is, that if you are honest then people start to get the idea that Black males commit a disproportionate amount of crime per capita. And that is racist.
Looking forward to hearing why this POS was fleeing. And hopefully vehicular homicide is eligible for the death penalty.
So, if the police let a fleeing criminal flee, and later the criminal either crashes into a family of 4 and kills them, or robs and kills a convenience store worker, or goes down a residential street and kills a kid on his bike, is that better?
Please stop with your outlandish generalizations. It's a tragedy, but in no way should you blame the police. Blame the POS that ran.
Too many posters are more concerned with defending the police than sympathizing for the dead motorcyclist’s family. Can you give it a rest for a brief moment?
PEARL POLICE I HOPE YOU GET SUED ONCE AGAIN
THIS IS NOT OKAY, and should STOP! once it’s out of your jurisdiction, it’s out of your hands. You pearl police take things extremely too far. You don’t see Florence police, Richland police, Madison police, Ridgeland police, even the worst Jackson police do this. I get you guys are trying to get more money by writing your little 2 second ticket that says you didn’t have an seatbelt, or no tag light, but causing death is absolutely unacceptable. This isn’t right , this isnt fair. And it ISNT THEIR JOB TO KILL PEOPLE! cops know once a high speed chase gets too rowdy to probably back off, because the victim or a officer will probably result in death. Please guys, let’s do your job!
These people don't fail to stop just because they don't want a traffic ticket; they flee because they are "driving dirty," i.e. holding dope, guns, have a felony warrant or two or three, car is stolen, all of the above.
If police cars were prohibited this wouldn't have happened.
August 14, 2022 at 11:26 PM
If the lesson that "they aren't going to outrun the radio" hasn't been learned then chases need to happen until that lesson is learned.
August 15, 2022 at 1:49 AM
That puts YOU in a hard place. Police should still chase.
In the recent pursuit where the fleeing driver turned onto a residential street and crashed into a postman's vehicle, killing the postman, the fleeing driver may not have known if the cop had pursued him into the residential area, or not, because of limited visibility on the narrow street. Yet he crashed at a curve anyway.
The cop's approaching siren should alert all to beware.
7:50AM Yep, that’s it exactly. Run, if something bad happens, police are blamed, not you.
So far, we read, above, that the perp was a shoplifter. Then we read he violated a traffic ordinance. Are we sure he didn't lift a couple of steaks from Little Willie's?
Nobody tries to outrun the cops because he was blue-lighted for rolling through a stop sign.
11:10. I feel the same way. Sometimes, the truth needs to be heard, no matter who’s feelings get hurt.
I have to ask why was he being chased?
Was it a traffic violation ? Was the car stolen?
The fact is that with the license plate number and car make and model, and when in those instances when the officer has seen the driver's license, there are safer and easy alternatives to a high speed chase into populated areas.
I'm all for chasing dangerous criminals and with having intelligent plans for backup.
There are methods on line available to any law enforcement head in successful alternatives to high speed chases that will endanger the public.
But, the fact is that most police car chases that ended in death were for teens afraid of speeding tickets/running red lights, stolen cars ( which are insured), and one notorious one for an unsuccessful attempt at check forgery.Jaime Boyll died in that idiocy. The "criminal" in that one was driving her own car so her address and name were easily accessible to law enforcement to be waiting at her house.
Lord save us from those who can't think or reason but react on emotion only! And save us from those who can distinguish fictional film or novels from real life!
all he had to do is pull over...
So out of radios, spike strips, air support, investigation methods and literally hundreds of cameras between MDot and the municipal governments… there was no other way to get the suspect than a hot pursuit that ended the life of a citizen minding his business. I’m taking all bets on that defense in civil court.
The takeaway from many of the comments here is that if you're going to run from the cops, you should do it as dangerously as possible. Then they'll have to let you go!
I wonder if the popo found the 30 round magazine in the suspects car that he tried to hide in the car wash at the nearby gas station/convenience store?
Well, the cops are sorta supposed to protect us from criminals. But carrying a pistol ain't gonna help much if it's a high speed chase. Maybe the cops need to find plan B.
I don't proclaim to know what is right. But I also don't think I am in a position to make sweeping judgments on behalf of difficult decisions the cops make quickly.
It pains me for the innocent lives lost in these situations.
But, I often wonder how the "there is no reason to ever chase a car" crowd would feel if they had a loved one forced into the fleeing car.
Would you be ok with the cops stopping all pursuit and calling ahead hoping another enforcement agency stops the car?
Y'all more then welcome to come on down, join, go through MLEOTA then show us how it's to be done. Or just shut your pie hole.
Ironically, the mayor of Pearl won't entertain the idea of speed bumps to deter out of control speeding on residential streets. According to his office, he views them as an "insurance liability" if someone were to wreck or damage their car. Wow
Is it true that so many of our citizens are thugs who break the law and think no one should complain? Do the majority of families have criminals they want to protect? What has happened to cause people to blame the police when a criminal commits a crime? Why don't parents teach their children to stop when the police try to pull them over? The last few years we have seen people make it a business out of encouraging thugs to run from the law. Relatives who would not even speak to a thug relative are just waiting for one of them to run from the law or resist arrest. It makes for a good payday for the relatives.
Are people that much in need of money that they will be willing to accept the death of their thug relative and whoever the thug may kill just to get something without working for it?
Aaaaannnddddd theennnnnnn……..when the cops back off and suspect gets away possibly committing another crime or just going home to enjoy the fruits of their labor, people will be complaining about the police not doing anything. After experiencing people hating you for doing your job and then the same people crying why aren’t you helping, we would just take our time and get there hopefully after everything was done or winding down.
Following up on 11:20 - After about 4 years of Lumumba's police reform, we can now see the results of his policies in Jackson.
Every single time I come through Orlando on the toll road, I miss a toll and without fail, they mail me a bill for a few dollars. This tells me that the technology is in place to automate the whole traffic citation thing. Why.........why is this not a reality yet?
10:24: no. felony fleeing is a felony, and it will count for habitual offender sentencing. Anyone is a idiot for running, unless they just committed a violent felony, in which case the cops have no choice but to chase them because they are dangerous.
But for idiots who run from traffic stops, or nonviolent crimes, the cops are putting more innocent lives in danger than they would if they stopped the chase, and instead got an arrest warrant for the guy with the car tag, and arrested him later when he had no chance to drive a car at high speed
Give a person a badge and they cannot be second guessed.
12:18 - because missing a toll is not a public safety hazard, such as DUI, reckless driving, and felony fleeing.
1:34 - What about people driving stolen cars? And what about the additional risk of incentivizing such criminals to recklessly flee law enforcement?
In other words, criminals driving stolen vehicles will know they can get away, if they just flee recklessly enough that the police have to stop the chase.
12:18 I am sure the owner of the Infiniti in this situation will pay the electronic citation on behalf of the person who (in all likelihood) stole it.
And criminals take those things seriously. Assuming they are ever driving a car they didn't steal, I am sure the mailing address where they stay is accurate and they will pay that automated citation toot suite. Voila. Police chases cancelled.
August 14, 2022 at 11:58 PM, needs to be in Hollywood. They know they can tell a story.
Criminals, inculdes all those who flee a cop, have no regard for life. We default to one standard policy, no chase, no chase into Jackson MS, no chase unless some conditions exist like firing on the police. Not enough known when the homicide happened, bystanders witnessing. The chase started where and was on going now long and far? Got to hold it in for a few days to make policy statements.
States, counties, and cities get sued because law enforcement DOESN'T chase criminals just like they get sued when they do chase criminals and in both instances the media and the arm quarterbacks come out in droves and never put blame where it rightfully belongs. There are people in this world that care for no one. Usually they just throw their litter on the side of the road. Sometimes they run from the cops and for all kinds of reasons. Sometimes they cause people to get hurt. Please stop and think about other people.
There’s several comments on this thread saying shoulda and coulda. Anytime y’all think y’all know how to do the job of a cop, by all means have at it. In case it wasn’t known, there is a shortage of people willing to take on this job and who could blame them. I couldn’t do it but all of armchair cops think you have it down. I applaud the police to try do the job they have to do nowadays. It certainly isn’t because of the pay. Obviously the guy didn’t stop because he had either drugs, guns, warrants or all of the above. In any case, he is the criminal and he is the one who caused this not the police.
Lol at 5:50 AM
Ready to walk that one back after the mugshot release?
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