Jackson Mayor Chokwe Antar Lumumba often expresses his desire to run gun shows out of town. Unfortunately for the Capital City Gun Show, the Mayor quit talking and started doing as he escalated his war on Jackson gun shows this weekend. The Jackson Fire Department surprised vendors at the gun show yesterday when the gun show began. Accompanied by Jackson police, the Jackson Fire Department told vendors they had to pay a $50 "fire inspection fee" for each booth. Needless to say, the vendors were not too happy about the sudden demand. The word "extortion" was used more than a few times.
David Chancellor of Laurel operates the semi-annual gun show. He said Jackson Fire Marshal Elliot Holmes notified the Washabi Shrine Temple Thursday that each vendor would have to pay the fee. Mr. Chancellor asked Mr. Holmes to agree to a one-time fee for just the building. The Fire Marshal would not budge as he said the 2018 International Fire Code allowed him to charge each vendor the fee.
Several JFD employees and police officers popped up at the gun show yesterday morning. JFD gave the vendors a choice: pay the fee or receive a free JPD escort to the parking lot. All vendors chose to pay. JFD kindly collected the money and served up the fire inspection permit to each vendor even though it never inspected a booth. JFD would not accept cards so most vendors paid cash.
Mr. Chancellor said he operated Jackson gun shows since 2012. This is the first time Jackson charged the booth "fire inspection fee." The surprise fee nearly doubled the cost of the gun show for vendors as they must also pay a $75 exhibit fee to the promoter.
There are at least thirty vendors at the gun show. Mr. Chancellor collects sales taxes of $12,000 to $16,000 at each Jackson gun show. The next gun show is scheduled for November. The promoter said he will probably not return to Jackson and is looking at venues in the Jackson burbs. "I feel like I'm being attacked personally," said an agitated David Chancellor.
Vendors were quite upset. Several said they would not return to any Jackson gun shows if they have to pay the fee nor would they have come if they had known about the fee.
Vendor Rob Watras said it is quite obvious the Mayor is using the so-called fire inspection fee to run the gun show out of town. The retired Clinton police officer said it was very weird Jackson only charged gun shows the fee. He wondered out loud why other events didn't have to pay the fee.
Josh Hancock said he works at 50 gun shows each year and never saw such a fee charged to vendors. He said he will frame his fire inspection certificate.
Mr. Chancellor said he called WAPT and WJTV Friday afternoon but neither station covered the story.
Update (3/15/21): Posted below is the letter sent to the Capital City Gun Show. Notice the date.
Kingfish note: The Mayor is getting what he wanted: The exit of all Jackson gun shows. The Mayor went this route, now he better stick to it. Isn't there a Black Business Expo? Every booth at the Expo should have to pay the "fire inspection fee." Every booth at the Convention Center better pay that fee. If there is a arts & crafts fair at Lanier High School, every vendor should have to pay that fee. Job fairs? Tough luck. Every employer at the job fair should have to pay that fee. The Mayor started this crap, now he can live with it. The Mayor is very familiar with the equal protection clause.
Oh yes, let's not forget the JFD employees only took cash. Hmmm... how much of that money will actually make it to the city of Jackson? Right, Paul Perry?
The Mayor is also begging the Legislature for some money to fix the water system. Hmmm.... what do you think the reaction of some legislators will be to this little stunt?
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Need to file a state & federal lawsuit against Jackson for harassment lawsuit on the ground of the 2nd amendment rights. The city doesn't charge $50.00 per booth at chimney ville festival. If you don't stand up now your right will get chiseled away.
Also, since when do we pay city fees in cash, to a random “official?” Call Shad NOW.
I guarantee that it the gun show leaves Jackson, they won't happen in Madison or Ridgeland or flowood. Those towns don't want to host gun shows either, but were happy to let Jackson do the dirty work.
Good mayors try to encourage business revenue to generate sales tax. Lubumba's creation of the most radical city on the planet does the opposite.
I'm no fan of gun shows but it is a legitimate business enterprise. My business gets extorted by the fire department every year too. We have a small office in an office building yet we have to pay a "fire inspection fee." Inspection for what? There is one way in and out of the office and there is a fire extinguisher in the office building hallway. Some guy drops by looks around, demands a check and gives me the same "certificate" that Kingfish posted.
Why doesn't Lubumba encourage business? I'll confess it is my fault for not having gotten the business out of Jackson by now. At least I moved my residence away from this Marxist clown show.
When you add up all gun shows, you are probably looking at throwing out over $100,000 in sales taxes (to be divied up) out of Jackson.
I hope moving forward nobody at a gun show will sell to a resident of Jackson. If that's what they want that's what they can get. As long as people tolerate this cargo cult playing dress up it will continue.
KF, I am the original reporter. Thanks for confirming and publishing the details. I believe a certain 2A attorney in Madison will pursue this, but that's just informed speculation.
The Fire Marshall did tell vendors that he was just following orders from "city hall."
is there a suburb in the metro that has space to host this? that's probably a deciding factor in where these shows will move to.
they could have made a ton more money with mask ordinance fines than a fire inspection fee by the looks of it...
I would hate for state funds to support an antigun administration even if they claim it is for water infrastructure repair. If Jackson wants the state legislature to even consider funding their repairs they need to rethink how they treat citizens that can call state reps and senators and tell them how the city shook them down at a gun show.
Dead kids in the streets apparently are not enough to make Jacksonians understand that elections have consequences. Maybe a few more months without water will get to them.
Mistletoe takes place at the Fairgrounds, which is state property and the State Fire Marshal's Office is the Authority Having Jurisdiction. Now do you understand why that is?
Best idea in the world take them to Madison or Pearl! I am sure they will be welcomed!
VFW in BYRAM, we’ll host it.
Take it to Madison!
“We would like to bring a gun show to Madison”
“...No...” - Mayor Mary
Shriners is 22,000 sf. That’s what he needs.
Wouldn't matter. Madison has no venue for it. Just gave you the SF requirements. Now start thinking about possible venues. Pearl is out. Flowood and Brandon? Possible. Clinton? If MC can be used. Ridgeland? No venue.
Ole Chuck is shifting blame once again. As Jackson continues to boil water, he exhorts from people he disagrees with. Once again he is driving business out of town. Chuck, we will watching for these fees for other events. On another subject, how did those poor animals fair during the freeze while Chuck was blaming the water issue on global warming. Chuck has been a failure at every level while trying to create his new world order.
As if Mississippians aren’t getting fleeced enough. Perhaps the mayor believes that it’s really the guns that kill and not the people pulling the trigger, but I doubt it. This IS in the democrats manifesto, disarming the public then taxing the piss out of them to keep them poor. It’s been used in history from the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia in 1918. By Stalin in the 1940s. Mao Zedong in China in the 1950s and every other dictatorship since then. Their manifesto believes that armed citizens present a problem and sometimes cannot be controlled. They also have a reputation of overthrowing abusive governments. Unarmed citizens in countries that require it are no more than slaves to oppression. The good mayor is just carrying on the history of every other despot.
Since Mayor Lumumba is now so concerned about fire prevention, here is one of the amendments the city made to the International Fire Code when it adopted the Code on August 14, 2020:
"Section 903.3.3.5 Water supplies. Water supply as required for automatic sprinkler systems shall be provided in conformance with the supply requirements of the respective standard."
And Jackson's Code of Ordinances, Sec. 58-5(e):
"Any person who shall violate any of the provisions of such officially adopted code or fail to comply therewith . . . shall severally, for each and every such violation and noncompliance respectively, be guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction, shall be punished by the imposition of a fine not to exceed $500.00 or by imprisonment for a period of time not to exceed 90 days, or by both such fine and imprisonment."
So, what about enforcing this part of Jackson's fire control laws?
The only relevant section of the 2018 International Fire Code that I could find is Section 3105.2, which only applies to Special Event Structures that exceed 400 square feet. I found nothing that applies to individual booths.
3105.2 Approval. Temporary special event structures in excess of 400 square feet (37 m2) shall not be erected, operated or maintained for any purpose without first obtaining approval and a permit from the fire code official and the building official.
this is an example of the socialist art of taxing something out of existence.
How about vendors at gun shows volunteer to conduct back ground checks......
Problem solved
Screw Jackson!! Kick em in the teeth!!!
(Jxn biz owner)
It’s like Crime and Punishment, if you don’t want to pay the fee, don’t sell guns.
@9:11 PM is a snowflake who has never been to a gun show, and his ignorance shows.
For all those that think this is a good thing just remember, when the 2nd is gone, the first will soon follow.
It's things like this that keep the citizens from having water right now. When you harrass businesses they leave. When they leave their tax money. employees, and employees tax money go with them. I would expect the average 10 year old to understand this.
9:11, I would like to but there is no mechanism by which to do it unless you have a FFL. Problem NOT solved.
“When the 2nd is gone, the 1st will soon follow”
No it won’t. Weapon companies make too much money and nothing serious will be done about it. Y’all have to come to your senses on that.
Canton has the Multipurpose Complex but Truly wont allow the gun show i'd bet
1028 Were you aware that Remington was just broken up and sold off, that Colt has been on the brink of Bankruptcy several times over the last few years. Ruger and S&W have had their financial problems lately. As far as the first, oh no the Government would never tell you you can’t go to church or even have a service in your car in the parking lot. Never would they fine people hundreds of dollars for doing so. Not in this State or this Country. Nooo, we don’t need the 2nd, it defends nothing, the rifle behind every blade of grass, stopped nothing. Minute Men carrying their personal firearms accomplished nothing. Law abiding gun owners are the cause of all the gun violence in Jackson, yeah okay.....
I don't feel sorry for these vendors or any one else that elects to conduct business in that 3rd World town.
I'm quite sure the "Canton Small Council" would welcome a gun show.
Provided Lord Blackmon approves.
Question ...
Does that massive barn on the west side of 55 still exist ?
(I think at one time it was called the Equine Center)?
That's a perfect venue for a gun show.
Not too long ago, that place even had RV hookups !
KF, I can't believe you fixed your mouth to say that Baptist MC would host a gun show. No matter how they feel about hunting or self defense, there's no way in heck a gun show is happening in Clinton, and especially not at MC.
Like I said, Madison, Ridgeland, Clinton, they're all happy to let Jackson carry their water. If the gun show wants to move, it will be to someplace inconvenient to most, like Byram or Brandon. Sales will be a fraction of what they are in Jackson.
Now that flowood has almost built that conference center, they will need to do anything to fill it. Maybe a nice gun show, with advertising at the airport.
I don't know why, if you don't have to, anyone would spend a damn dime in Jackson Mississippi. As a Brandon resident, the last dime I spent a dime for anything there was on lunch at Dave's BBB on High Street....because that was a chicken fried steak with potatoes and greens that couldn't be beat. It's been closed for a while now. Just give Baby Chok what he and Kenny can agree on and move the gun show out of the City. And when gun crime doesn't decline in The City with Soul, ask Baby Chok why. Right?
I'll just point out a couple of MS and Federal laws that might get overlooked:
"TITLE 18, U.S.C., SECTION 242
Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, ... shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death."
"MS Code § 97-23-33 (2019)
If any person shall willfully and maliciously print, circulate or distribute, cause to be printed, circulated or distributed, or assist in printing, circulating or distributing, in any form whatever, any matter, the purpose and design of the contents thereof being to willfully and maliciously interfere with, or prevent another from exercising a lawful trade or calling, or engaging in a lawful business, or engaging in lawful use and enjoyment of his property, he shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and upon conviction thereof shall be punished by imprisonment for not more than six (6) months in the county jail or be fined not more than five hundred dollars ($500.00) or both."
I sure hope everyone involved, from the mayor on down, knew precisely what law(s) allowed the collection of these fees (for a printed certificate but no actual inspection performed) in the face of police presence and has citations at the ready just in case. If some prosecutor wanted to, he or she could make things interesting for all officials involved.
And if this same fee, etc. isn't charged to all substantively similar exhibitors from here on out, there ought to be a number of other official asking some tough questions and actually acting on this.
Does the cash inspection fee go toward supporting firemen's balls? Do they still have firemen's balls? Will some fireman step up and loan the mayor a pair.
My guess is this money will eventually be returned to the vendors. This apparently is unlawful, not to mention unethical and the mayor knows it. He will get what he wants and hopefully the show will find a new venue out of this God forsaken city and the taxes collected will better appreciated.
11:55 PM said “Just give Baby Chok what he and Kenny can agree on and move the gun show out of the City. And when gun crime doesn't decline in The City with Soul, ask Baby Chok why. Right?”
11:55 you’re right but Leftist Democrats know their dumbed down base will fall for the next excuse because that’s what Leftist Democrats do best; fail, fail, fail miserably then prey on the ignorance of their base…with yet another excuse - that the ignorant base is more than willing to believe.
This was a stunt by the mayor to distract from his abysmal handling of preparations for February's "ice over" & the resulting water crisis.
The Canton Multipurpose Arena has plenty of space if you don't mind setting up business in a dirt arena.
A slice of Heaven. Old timers would tell me a Yankee who elected to make this area home Jackson was a nice, friendly place long ago. Might talk to the Governor in Barbershop.
Politicians love to do symbolic gestures. The risk of a gun show is having the guns stolen out of a vehicle.
What position does Hoot Gipson have on this matter? MDAC has control of a building on the fairgrounds, or is it the city? Lets get this party started.....
Isn't there a Black Business Expo? Every booth at the Expo should have to pay the "fire inspection fee." Every booth at the Convention Center better pay that fee. If there is a arts & crafts fair at Lanier High School
Hey KF, calm down, your bigotry is showing loud and clear.
I would think that if there was an incident requiring fire/emergency service on the state owned fairgrounds, that the responding agency would be COJ... therefore they would be an/the authority having jurisdiction.
BTW how is the zoo negotiation going, and how did the animals fare during the ice storm and water crisis?
Have recent renovations to fairground exhibit areas priced them out of reach for this type of venue?
Chokeway is a beta cuck. No other words define him better. What a chickenshit move to swoop in last minute and try and extort $50 per vendor in this manor. That is some South African type stuff right there(this comment has nothing to do with race, but rather the political climate in SA).
Did anyone ask if there was sufficient pressure to contain a fire? I can see several millions of dollars worth of inventory that was brought in. Also, the building needs sufficient wawtah pressha for the JF and D to fight the building fire. I was hoping someone may have brought up that point. But when you’re being extorted, I can imagine those things are not on your mind. Maybe an attorney can brief us on this. Also, I bet your life there is the absolute best security available for the vendors to protect their valuables. I would hate to be the dumb arse that tries to break in to that place. Oh, and by the way, JPD more than likely couldn’t find it since it’s a white mans place....I know...I got broken into not far from there and it took an hour to get an officer ( if that’s what you can refer to her as) to respond.
Chokwe is on his way out. This water debacle is going to bite him big time. He was already on thin ice.
The best thing about having it in Madison is that you will not have to be armed to attend.
Madison doesn’t want these trashy shows. Move it to Pearl or Richland.
Examples such as how the CoJ treats firearm vendors differently than everyone else, the complete lack of care by city officials, and the more buearacracy by the CoJ compared to surrounding cities are some of the many reasons why when I scout for business property in the metro area I rule out the CoJ before I even start looking.
I sent this e-mail to WAPT (ABC).
To: Rick McLaughlin; Megan West; Keegan Fox
Show details
Sending this only to you 1st.
Not WLBT (NBC) or WJTV (CBS).
Click on url below please.
Jackson Jambalaya: Jackson Fires on Gun Show (kingfish1935.blogspot.com)
Never practiced law a day in my life, but this is such an easy case: First amendment violation would be extraordinarily easy to prove. Love to see Chokwe deposed on that one. I don't recall fire department ever requiring JLJ booths to "purchase" fire certificates.
10:21
That's kind of you to direct it to the folks you like best, but I'll bet ALL of the news folks around Jackson are right here with you on JJ. It's where they probably get 75% of their leads.
@10:21...Friday afternoon, 2:45, I called WAPT and WJTV news tip line and fully informed them. Day late, dollar short...just sayin’
By its own terms, the Operational Permit only applies to the property owner or the owner's agent, i.e., the person who rented out the space to put on the show.
"105.1.1 Permits required. A property owner or owner’s authorized agent who intends to conduct an operation or business . . . "
I still do not see how this can be applied to the individual booths at the show. I think this is a tremendous overreach to stifle lawful trade. The timing of the letter strongly suggests an ambush, providing inadequate opportunity for a response from legal counsel.
-3.14.21 @ 8:48 p.m.
Funny part is they even said they won't be able to do shit about the gun shows at the Trade Mart since it's state property.
I asked him "do you dumb fucks realize that everyone has to turn in tax money on their self-reported sales? You dumb fucks are screwing yourselves out of way more money than you getting out of this scam?" Response from Deputy Ellison...blank stare. Math be hard.
They have started hitting all the businesses in Jackson with this fee. I have always found it interesting that the fire extinguisher salesman shows up just a few days before the city fire inspector like clockwork. He charges for getting you in compliance and then the inspector charges you for being in compliance. Just another government racket nickel and diming the citizens.
And why is no one asking about the 1% tax his father instituted? Where is that going?
8:50, this stunt is classic racism and viewpoint discrimination by GubMint.
A black controlled, black staffed city Gubmint which opposed gun shows in public repeatedly has gone to an all white set of gun vendors and charged them for a trumped up "tax" with armed police presence without prior notice and without a legal review.
Look up disparate impact and you'll get where KF is coming from.
Then go look in the mirror to see the racist bigot.
Even the ACLU will sign off on this lawsuit.
I'm very suprised no one pushed back to see what they would have actually done if you told them no. My bet is you could win a case against the COJ for wrongful arrest. This was made up on the spot. No motions before the city counsel, no notices posted, nothing. Chucky just called his dogs and told them to go harass the white folks selling guns at the Trademark.
On another note; why does the city of Jackson landfill only take cash or check with no type of electronic receipt of the transaction? Who is accountable for all the cash?
As written, this is not for individual booths/vendors.
This is an intentional misapplication of the code as written, ie - extortion.
Thanks Kingfish for posting this. I’ve gotten a few calls and am looking at the case.
" BTW how is the zoo negotiation going, and how did the animals fare during the ice storm and water crisis?"
Great question 9:12 !
Hey KF, when you have time, can you give us an update on the zoo animals ?
Did any die during the ice storm ?
Have any animals out there died of dehydration during one month without water ?
guys in tee shirts that say fire department say 50 bucks, check or cash?
great U tube video KF!
A open air parking lot sale seems doable, beat it would draw a crowd. Need a pasture that has been mowed? No FFL NCIS paper sellers allowed.
If only I was no so lazy.
People worried about gun shows are seriously ignorant.
Guns are like prostitutes.
That product will always be bought & sold.
No matter the venue.
( Shriner's Temple, State Fairgrounds, muddy cow pasture, back room . . . or wherever)
Beautiful even if the city loses, it discourages vendors , which reduces the availability.
Go Stamboulieh
Thanks Stephen S.
Btw, Apel (lbt) did a piece on this at 10pm news so thanks to whomever contacted her
Anybody with half a grain of sense would know that each renter of 50 square feet in a building is not responsible for adherence to any applicable fire code. The owner of the building has that sole responsibility.
Can we expect Chokwe to assess a 'riders fee' on every participant in the black rodeo (sanitary dookie-patrol fee) or everybody who sets up a table at the convention center's two annual events? What about every vendor who sets up an 8 ft table at all those Hilton events? Those who sell T-shirts and CDs at concer....wait, we don't have concerts any more in Jackson.
Someone might want to check but the rumor going around is the city of Jackson hasn’t even adopted the 2018 international fire code.
10:00, That was the first thing I checked when this article was posted. It was adopted last year. Jackson Code of Ordinances, Sec. 58-36.
Hey, 3/14 @ 1155 pm - Dave’s BBB is alive and well in Flora, MS along with his Butcher Shop.
If it actually leaves Jackson Mississippi, I think attendance will be greater.
Hahahaha cry more titty babys we see who the snow flakes truely are
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