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Sounds like a CON problem, not a COVID problem. Maybe time for the CON to be removed, Mississippi.

Drive careful, eat right, and get your exercise. You're screwed if you have an accident, heart attack, or stroke now.

Funny how Gunn, Tate, and Delbert haven't brought up CON laws. Can't imagine why.

For example, SW Regional Medical in Laurel opened a brand new wing nearly a year ago. There are two vacant floors above the ER that could be converted to ICU's within ten days if everyone worked balls to the wall. There is a helicopter pad on top.

However, who wants to go through the CON process and the legal fight it entails when your competitors fight you in court and at MSDH?

Thank goodness the Junior League is having Mistletoe Gala and Marketplace in person.....that's certainly a good idea having 1,000+ people shopping in the Trademart.
And what a great idea it was to invite the Fair to stay a third week this year.

So in other words, very few COVID patients, noted.

ICUs are expensive to maintain. They are designed to meet the needs of the area with just a little excess capacity. You're looking at 20% of the entire capacity used just by COVID patients which is overwhelming the system.

Should have built the pop-up hospital beds at Metro Center (with a ferris wheel) or the Convention Center to handle the Covid surge.

US set a new worldwide record for cases yesterday and are expected to top it today. Thanks Donald.

KF @11:33 - thought you were smarter than that.

The problem with ICU "beds" is not the space - there are plenty of areas like you describe, both in the metro area and around the state.

The problem (shortage) is with the appropriate staff. Having a bed is not worth a damn, including your two floors and a helipad. Unless you have the trained ICU professionals required, you don't have ICU beds.

Back earlier in the COVID crisis, they discussed that they could convert many areas in many hospitals to ICU - if they could bring in the staff. Don't know if your memory is just failing, or if you are trying to stir the pot by this comment. But surely you recognize the difference in the physical and the personnel needs; where is SW MS going to get the staff for your two floors.

And as to CON - you don't build, expand, and maintain space and equipment for a once in a century crisis. While I agree that some, maybe all, of the CON requirements should be repealed; certainly reviewed and revised, COVID is not the reason for that and they shouldn't be designed around a COVID experience.

Now I thought covid was going away by 11/4/20?

I heard it was “fake.”

Now you are telling people this virus is real and it’s costing lives?

Next you gonna say trump knew about the virus and didn’t warn anyone about how bad the virus is.

It should be illegal for MS to shut anyone else down until they abolish CON. If the reason for shutting down is capacity, then there are two factors: supply and demand. How about leave the demand alone and fix the supply.

The Chicoms are smiling, and if Biden takes the Oval Office they will be doing high fives with Hunter Biden. Lock and load.

@1:45, this statement displays the difference in leftists (low info, inability to discern sarcasm, low intelligence) and rightists (of normal intelligence, understands humor and can peek behind the curtain)

The reason people said it goes away at the election is it’s a tool the left in the US (amongst other countries) is using to “hurt” Trump. We don’t have a winner yet. Now learn to breathe through your nose before you swallow a bug

1:41: I'm not disagreeing with you at all. I was leaving all that out to focus on the cost of getting a CON if they did want to convert it. Like it or not, such a hospital has to figure how much trouble it will take to get the CON as well as how much money will be spent fighting its competitors in front of MSDH as well as court if it came to that.

Staffing is of course an issue. Feds offered help to send in ICU nurses a few months ago but it came with a helluva string. State would have to shut down elective procedures and other things statewide even at providers that didnt' get the help. MSDH and Governor said no.

Profitssssss over people. You’re all expendable wage slaves to those in power and their corporate masters. Get back to work and pay your taxes, peons.

An ICU bed can be made in a hallway. All you need is a believe it or not, a bed, a monitor, stands for IV Fluids and such, and a O2/Air& vacuum source (can be portable). Used to do this all the time overseas until we could medivac. Then again, everyone believes it's not an ICU bed unless it is in a separate shiny chrome and glass cubicle type setting. Oh well, they'll figure it out, maybe.

"Drive careful, eat right, and get your exercise. You're screwed if you have an accident, heart attack, or stroke now." You can have these things happen with THE Covid around? No fucking way.

There are likely 30 folks in ICU beds with bullet holes in them right now but no attention seeking or emotional pleas from MSDH or UMC.....but you put 10 Covid patients in there and all the sudden this is my problem. Fuck those people.

UMC already set up a bunch of positive-pressure rooms in the dental school earlier this spring, which I believe they did without requiring CONs. It's all about staffing at this point, not the facilities.

The pop-up beds at Metro or Convention Center would have been regular lower-level beds, and that's not where the need is. The issue is having space available for the really sick folks, or where people can be very quickly transferred when they start to go south.

What's wrong with this picture?

"UMC: -9 available ICU beds - (9 patients waiting for ICU beds)"

Oh, wait..the weekend is upon us. I forgot about the projections from Imminence Row, Northside, Lynch and Paden.

Bed shortage is BS. Follow the money.