Friday, November 20, 2020

C19 Patients Might Have Immunity After All

 Recovery from Covid-19 virus might just include long-lasting immunity to the disease.  A new but non-peer reviewed study claims Covid-19 victims maintain enough immune cells to prevent reinfection. The New York Times reported:

 Eight months after infection, most people who have recovered still have enough immune cells to fend off the virus and prevent illness, the new data show. A slow rate of decline in the short term suggests, happily, that these cells may persist in the body for a very, very long time to come.

The research, published online, has not been peer-reviewed nor published in a scientific journal. But it is the most comprehensive and long-ranging study of immune memory to the coronavirus to date...

 And the research squares with another recent finding: that survivors of SARS, caused by another coronavirus, still carry certain important immune cells 17 years after recovering....

The findings are consistent with encouraging evidence emerging from other labs. Researchers at the University of Washington, led by the immunologist Marion Pepper, had earlier shown that certain “memory” cells that were produced following infection with the coronavirus persist for at least three months in the body.*

A study published last week also found that people who have recovered from Covid-19 have powerful and protective killer immune cells even when antibodies are not detectable.

These studies “are all by and large painting the same picture, which is that once you get past those first few critical weeks, the rest of the response looks pretty conventional,” said Deepta Bhattacharya, an immunologist at the University of Arizona... Rest of article

This being Jackson Jambalaya, you know what comes next.  The study is posted below.  

*Caveat: The majority of subjects had a mild case of COVID-19, not requiring hospitalization.  92% of subjects were never hospitalized for Covid-19, 7% were hospitalized, some of whom required intensive care unit (ICU) care.


Anonymous said...

Now we just need to try and keep the virus from spreading uncontrolled for the next few months until the vaccine is widely available across the U.S. The end is hopefully in sight, but we still have a way to go before we can have a return to normal. Unfortunately I think we'll see a massive increase after Thanksgiving and Christmas as people gather with their extended families indoors and spread it around.

The answer to 1984 is 1776 said...

This has been known for quite some time. Our elected and unelected officials are taking advantage of this fake pandemic to lock us all down. Why is it no new studies such as this seem to make an impact on our public policy?

A top official from the WHO already said this months ago but quickly retracted the statement in less than 24 hours

Anonymous said...

The answer to 1984/1776 is tinfoil.

Anonymous said...

What's the Rt factor associated with that there immunity?

Anonymous said...

10:10 AM
Retracted voluntarily or was pressured to retract?

10:03 AM
I suspect the COVID vaccine will be like the flu vaccine; somewhat effective, but since viruses constantly mutate won't be as effective.

Anonymous said...

What if the prevention is worse than the disease? I'm not talking about natural immunity.

Anonymous said...

I was wondering just yesterday: What if it's learned that men infected with and recovered from this virus are thereafter incapable of producing the sperm necessary to produce offspring. Why have we heard zero about motility testing?

May be 25 years before we finally learn the disastrous results of this Chinese Flu.

Anonymous said...

@12:25, so you deny Klaus Schwab, Justin Trudeau, Boris Johnson, Bill Gates and a laundry list of national leaders and unelected scumbags said the things they’ve said about using this “pandemic” to usher in globalism?

Anonymous said...

@10:10 because the study hasn’t been peer-reviewed or even published in a scientific journal yet. You don’t make public policy decisions that will affect 300+ million Americans based on an unpublished report by a scientist (or group of scientists) that has not been peer-reviewed. For all we know, they could’ve misinterpreted the empirical data and their conclusions are wrong. But this is how science has always worked. You develop a theory, submit it to you peers (actual scientists, not arm-chair scientists) for review, and, if they’re mistaken, the theory is rejected by the community. When this happens, it often leads to the development of a new and better theory.

Anonymous said...

@3:59, different poster here but I'll bite. I think smart people are adapting and making the best of a horrible situation. Not all smart people are good people and there will always be people who use tragedies or disasters to their advantage. I think the bulk of the people still calling the whole thing fake are:

1) Desparate people who are angry. They may have lost a job or have some other personal hardship that makes their life miserable.
2) Trump fans who have bought in so completely that it has become their personality.
3) People who struggle with a multitude of different mental health conditions.

Anonymous said...

@8:39pm: 2 & 3 are one and the same.

Anonymous said...

Y’all need to find something else to do besides worry about this. The end.

Anonymous said...

It is so much easier and lazy to just accept what you are hammered with day after day than to think critically and independently like a free American human.

Calm Down said...

@4:16 PM

Anonymous said...
@10:10 because the study hasn’t been peer-reviewed or even published in a scientific journal yet. You don’t make public policy decisions that will affect 300+ million Americans based on an unpublished report by a scientist (or group of scientists) that has not been peer-reviewed.

If this is how science has always worked, how do we then explain why the authoritarians have settled on the mask mandates? Would that not be considered public policy decisions? And yet, when we do get an actual RCT study this week that shows masks don't work, the drums continue to beat.

It is this that causes people of goodwill and common sense to question any dictate from our dear trustworthy Faucci.

It is our overblown response to the virus that is a hoax, and we seem determined to throw a hundred years of scientific knowledge out the window. I can only surmise the reason for that hoax is political and personal gain.

Anonymous said...

While I accept that Covid-19 is real, all the numbers of deaths world wide and in the USA are not catastrophic. I believe many of the deaths are those that may have been destined to die from other issues but were found to be positive.
Today MSDH reports News cases of COVID-19: 1,972 with New COVID-19 related deaths: 15.That in my opinion is telling. The larger number of positive cases is never truly broken down to show sick requiring treatment at home or in house. Never told how many are subclinical or asymptomatic and I assume deaths related to Covid does not necessarily mean "died from Covid, but more probably died while indicated positive WITH Covid. I do believe that Covid is a money maker and that it is a very survivable condition. My opinion and I am quite sure some experts will try to state this is the absolute worst thing to hit mankind. So be it. Fear controls many.

Anonymous said...

I got it in March, how long am I good for?

Fan Dango said...

A family friend was diagnosed positive back in May, suffered through it and fully recovered. She tested positive again yesterday. Immunity may not be complete and/or may not be universal.

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