Jackson Jambalaya

They ain't gonna have it long. I am going t bust a cap on the next asshole without a mask.

WOW. CNN now reporting that China has lied about the disease from the beginning. Trump called it months ago. But it's all Taters fault.

@8:85 even though masks are scientifically proven to not be effective? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8966883/Masks-DONT-stop-spread-Covid-experts-criticise-troubling-lack-evidence.html

one death says it all

@10:45 - BREAKING! Not masking up results in folks thinking there are 85 minutes in an hour. Be careful out there.

Good grief 10:45, please quit citing a British tabloid for your science. Why the hell have doctors been wearing masks for years if they have no effect?

I'm not saying you should be mandated to wear one. Just keep your foolishness to yourself.

@9:20 From the link you posted

'The results could indicate a more moderate degree of protection of 15 to 20 [percent], however, the study could not rule out that face masks do not provide any protection.'

The team, from Copenhagen University Hospital, said the findings should not be used to argue against their widespread use, however, because masks may prevent people infecting others.

We all knew they were lying, that wasn't the problem. The problem was all of Trump's lies, disinformation, and lack of leadership. Tater has done a good job, and I have never voted for him.

10:45 - I can show you just as many articles that says they ARE effective. Believe what you want. I don't know if they work or not, but why take a chance?

It’s going to zero

C'mon people, yall do know that the gubmint pays the hospital bills for all Covid expenses. Most are uninsured or Medicare cases and you think the hospitals are going to eat millions of dollars in uncollectible charges? Hence, the "spike" in numbers of cases.

@7:08 am

What u can't show is a RCT study that shows that masks are effective. There are lots on surveys that show masks 'may 'might 'could help, but none that show a definitive indication of reduced transmission. And keep in mind that the public is wearing homemade cloth rags or paper hospital grade coverings, most N95s.

But if u have the studies, post a link.

The community spread is in big stores from morons who think masks make them invincible and will not keep their distance.

6:20 - As usual, you're simply another Anti-Trumper bouncing off the walls in hatred. What's funny is you fail to realize 'Tater' has closely followed the suggestions of the one you hate. Poor thang.

Believe what you want. I don't know if they work or not, but why take a chance?

You must be a Calvinist.

I thought it would be gone by Easter? Or was it after the election? I can’t remember which. Wearing this mask all the time is depriving my brain of oxygen.

Mask/no mask; lockdowns/no lockdowns...none of these policies have been effective at reducing viral spread. They HAVE been effective at illegally limiting individual liberty and damaging the economy though.

@10:45PM

Hey, dummy... Why don't you read the article instead of the headline?

'The results could indicate a more moderate degree of protection of 15 to 20 [percent], however, the study could not rule out that face masks do not provide any protection.'

The team, from Copenhagen University Hospital, said the findings should not be used to argue against their widespread use, however, because masks may prevent people from infecting others.

I don't care if China lied or not, the absolute ignorance among the American population well after they should have realized how serious this pandemic was is very demoralizing. China's lies may be blamed for the slow initial response by the U.S., but everything after infections started soaring in New York in directly on the shoulders of the American people and the various governments' responses. It's not like we are completely dependent on China's information to make our own evaluations and decisions.

So far the death rate has not climbed at the same rate as hospitalizations, but it has almost doubled since the middle of October and will inevitably increase as many of those who get placed on a ventilator continue to die.

Overall Tater has done a poor job. He has spoken in cautious tones about the severity of the virus, but when it came time to actually do something he did very little. He made "suggestions" and placed faith on Mississippians ability to do the right thing without government interference. He severely misjudged the ignorance and selfishness of the average Mississippian and now many are paying for it with their lives.

Jackson Mayor yesterday blamed the Fair for the increase. It didn't help but really this is all about Halloween. Just wait a few weeks for the Thanksgiving spike in cases.

New numbers for today. Over 1,000 new cases and 25 current deaths plus 4 additional deaths identified from earlier periods. Still think it isn't increasing? We are in for a rough next couple of months and will almost certainly see our death rate exceed the previous peak from back in June as people take the Thanksgiving surge into Christmas.

@8:53 You get one chance, don’t miss me

I get ALL of my covid science information from the expert and insightful comments on JJ. I ought to be safe.

8:24 succinctly states my thoughts.

Color me shocked that a virus cant be contained (gasp)

Color me less shocked that all we did was damage our economy with these idiotic attempts at virtue signaling against an infection.

7:53AM wrote, "What u can't show is a RCT study that shows that masks are effective. There are lots on surveys that show masks 'may 'might 'could help, but none that show a definitive indication of reduced transmission."

TL/DR: Wear a mask when in public. Only jackasses who don't know jackshit about what they are braying about bring up "RCTs" when they braying about masks and COVID.

The longer version:

When people with much medical or scientific knowledge see comments about the lack of "RCTs" (R andomized C ontrolled T rials), it is an instant signal that the person writing or saying it doesn't have the slightest bit of knowledge themselves and are merely parroting gibberish they heard or read from other idiots with no knowledge.

You also don't see RCTs on the mortality rate of centerfire rifle bullet intrusions into the pericardial cavity. Even if such a trial were ethical (it wouldn't be), it would be essentially impossible to find a reasonable range of participants. And the reason you couldn't find them is common sense tells potential participants it would be a very bad idea to risk it. But more importantly, such a RCT wouldn't serve much real purpose because the medical community already has many years and tens of thousands of past cases to impart sufficient knowledge by doing post-injury analysis, case studies, etc. It has been determined by every single study of which I am aware that being shot in the chest with a firearm is not recommended. I don't and didn't need an RCT on thoracic cavity gunshot wounds to "prove" anything to me.

So, what does this mean for the average person or even dumbfucks? It means that while wearing "a mask" isn't 100% effective in preventing either infection or transmission of SARS-CoV-19, the entire population wearing even surgical masks or the equivalent when in public would be 100% effective in reducing the rate of transmission. All one needs to do from a clinical standpoint is read a mere handful of the many thousands of studies that have been done over the last 100 or years that touch upon the subject to know that to be true. All the average person needs to do is use a little common sense to know it to be true. And therein lies the problem.

@11:15 pm

"When people with much medical or scientific knowledge see comments about the lack of "RCTs" (R andomized C ontrolled T rials), it is an instant signal that the person writing or saying it doesn't have the slightest bit of knowledge themselves and are merely parroting gibberish they heard or read from other idiots with no knowledge."

So your position is that only those with 'much medical or scientific knowledge' may be deigned to speak on matters of public policy? And yes, much of my knowledge comes from those more learned than myself. Does that differ from you, or did you personally re-run every experiment in every textbook?

If masks are the answer to this virus, explain the increase in those locations where masks and harsh lockdowns have long been mandated.

I'd note, as a lowly layman, that you don't offer any evidence to refute my statement.

Calm Down wrote,

"@11:15 pm (sic)

'When people...'

...may be deigned to speak on matters of public policy...

...as a lowly layman..."

11:15 AM responding, Your statements suggest that you just want to argue for the sake of arguing yet have no real education or knowledge about the subject you wish to argue. I'll pass. I'll just note some things:

I didn't mention public policy. I didn't say anyone was a "lowly layman" or anything remotely similar - that was purely your own offering as to your status.

As to mandates, just because some government entity has or has not mandated masks, neither is evidence as to the efficacy of masks. A mask mandate does not translate to every single person following that mandate and in fact many openly flouted it. Fentanyl has been mandated illegal for recreational use but that does not mean that it is not used in that way. It is an inarguable fact that fentanyl is an extremely dangerous drug outside of a carefully controlled setting regardless of mandate. That is true for both the abuser as well as for numerous others who happen to have unwitting direct contact with the abuser. It is also an inarguable fact that the more people who wear a mask, even with less-than-ideal protocols, the less successfully SARS-CoV-19 can transmit. That is true for both the infected and those who unwittingly encounter them.

@11:15 AM


"11:15 AM responding, Your statements suggest that you just want to argue for the sake of arguing yet have no real education or knowledge about the subject you wish to argue. I'll pass. I'll just note some things:"

You posit that I have no 'real education or knowledge' on the topic at hand. Assume that's true, and share your enlightened view. Convince us of your superior intellect and put all arguments to rest.

"I didn't mention public policy. I didn't say anyone was a "lowly layman" or anything remotely similar - that was purely your own offering as to your status."

I didn't claim that you mentioned public policy, but do point out the implication of your position. Nor do I claim you referred to me as a layman. I am a layman, not a scientist or a doctor.

"As to mandates, just because some government entity has or has not mandated masks, neither is evidence as to the efficacy of masks. A mask mandate does not translate to every single person following that mandate and in fact many openly flouted it. Fentanyl has been mandated illegal for recreational use but that does not mean that it is not used in that way. It is an inarguable fact that fentanyl is an extremely dangerous drug outside of a carefully controlled setting regardless of mandate. That is true for both the abuser as well as for numerous others who happen to have unwitting direct contact with the abuser."

I'm lost as to the relevance of a mask mandate and the lethality of fentanyl. Let's just agree that it's illegal and a bad idea to sniff a handful.


"It is also an inarguable fact that the more people who wear a mask, even with less-than-ideal protocols, the less successfully SARS-CoV-19 can transmit. That is true for both the infected and those who unwittingly encounter them."

This comment is on point in response to what I posted. Yes, it is arguable. On what evidence do you claim that wearing masks are somehow effective in reducing transmission of an aerosolize virus? We continually are berated to 'follow the science' and yet the public has no factual documented evidence that masks (especially homemade reusable cloth masks poorly worn) are effective. And point of fact is that every pandemic plan specifically refuted the idea that the public should wear them in response......until THIS epidemic. Every study we see shows that they aren't effective. The very poobahs of the pandemic - Fauci and his cohorts - aren't taking the very medicine they prescribe for the public. You'd think if masks were so essential, we wouldn't see him taking his off as soon as he thinks the cameras are off. It's almost like he doesn't believe the 'science'.

Keep in mind, as we speak now, we have more mandates and restrictions in place that we've ever had up to this point, and yet we see exploding numbers of cases reported. Perhaps what we are doing isn't working?

And just to be clear - I personally think covid19 is real, some people will get sick, especially those who are high risk, and some will die as a result of the complications it causes.

It is our response to the virus that is the hoax. The demand for compliance for thee, but not for me, with no regard for the unintended, but very obvious societal impacts that accompany the mandates. Those effects will be much more impactful for this country and the world than the deaths from covid19, and much more long lasting.

December 2, 2020 at 10:57 AM