Mississippi came close to breaking the 2,000 new cases of Covid-19 infections again yesterday. The Mississippi State Department of Health reported 1,845 cases of Wuhan virus and 27 deaths yesterday. However, 18 of the deaths took place between September and November. The total number of cases is 151,785. The virus has caused 3,806 deaths. Nursing home deaths comprise 40% of overall Covid-19 deaths in Mississippi. There are 121,637 recoveries.
Cases are skyrocketing but Covid-19 deaths remain relatively flat when compared to cases. Why deaths are on a flattened curve is a matter of debate. It could be because therapies and treatments have improved since the spring. Such is to be expected since much more is known about the virus than in March. The virus may not burn itself out just yet but it might be packing less of a punch. The nursing homes are doing a better job of virus prevention. The Health Department said many of the cases are among the young. If such an assertion is true, then it is reasonable to expect fewer deaths as there are much less hospitalizations among patients under 18 years old and only two such deaths in Mississippi.
The big chart is not the worst it has ever been but it is getting there as shown below.
Kingfish note: It is anecdotal but it seems more and more people I know personally are contracting the virus compared to last spring when we experienced the first surge. Vaccine or no vaccine, the virus is simply going to work its way through the population.
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I am guessing the people you know catching Covid-19 are like many who have dropped their guard and stopped using best practices by neglecting to wear mask and social distance.
Oddly enough, no. Several of them took precautions and then some. rarely left the house, wiped down groceries, went totally safe. Got it anyway and it kicked their asses for 1-2 weeks.
I am guessing that @9:18 has an axe to grind.
If we're not really certain about transmission and prevention, how do you arrive at the conclusion that nursing homes are doing a better job of prevention?
On a parallel note, if there are fewer highway deaths during a particular holiday period, does that mean the state highway patrol is doing a better job of law enforcement? Or is that just another example of straw-grasping?
People who catch covid rarely talk about the stupid things they may have done to put themselves in harm's way. They're not gonna advertise to kingfish that they went to a party, or a bar, or got together with friends and acquaintances. They will say "I always wore my mask and never went outside."
Here's something not a guess - Everyone is an expert on this situation and knows exactly what should be done.
Get ready for a resurgence of “The Itch” coming this spring 2021.
My suspicions are that people as in KF's example above caught it because of touching something like a cashier's counter/ATM machine/gas pump, and then rubbed their face/nose/eyes.
I have seen my wife do that and she doesn't even realize that she did it; in fact denies it.
Wearing a mask and social distancing is not enough; you can't touch your face!
Follow EthicalSkeptic on Twitter. He has been on top of this from the beginning. Fascinating stuff.
LTCF deaths are higher than reported. The statistics do not include state run veterans homes or VA data. The CMS data excludes that and it also appears that some private nursing homes are not included in the count. It’s easily over 50% which would match the age stratification of deaths. My question is if most of the spread is in hospitals and LTCF are they not wearing masks? Don’t they know you can simply strap any ol thing across your face and protect people!
On multiple occasions I have observed Dr. Dobbs rubbing his face during his news conferences. No doubt he doesn't even realize that he is doing this, after touching the podium, microphone, table top, etc.
In April- it was no mess and a vent if needed
In November- here’s a script for steroids, inhalers, vitamins. drugs in the hospital if you need it. vent is a last resort not the only resort.
it’s real. avoid if you can. mask. distance. under 70?? more likely to die in a car wreck than covid now..get out of the howard hughes mindset
"Vaccine or no vaccine, the virus is simply going to work its way through the population."
I will take issue with this statement. A vaccine will prevent the virus from working its way through the population by conferring immunity to the recipients without them having to contract the virus itself. There are two vaccine candidates that are applying for emergency use authorization as we speak. Moderna today announced theirs was 95% effective in preventing the disease and 100% effective in preventing severe cases. Pfizer has previously said their efficacy rate is similar. Both should be available in significant, but limited, quantities by the end of December with enough available to cover the general population by April.
An effective vaccine will stop the virus from working its way through the population.
The vaccine was developed in March. What we need to work on is much more expeditious testing and approval for future pandemics since the general population has shown they are incapable of doing mitigation for any decent length of time. Done properly the vaccine could have been ready by the end of July.
We still don't know what will happen if there are various strains or if it mutates. Maybe the vaccine will work against it just the same, maybe it won't.
There is also the matter of distribution. It's going to take awhile to get the vaccine out to the population. It has to be produced and then distributed.
I agree with 6:50. Please post a real problem when it shows up in the future.
Influenza cases this winter will be classified as Chinese Virus, probably already are.
Kingfish, you are correct about CV19 hitting folks who are being careful that you know.
A few months ago, I was cussed out by someone who was not wearing a face mask and walking into a medical facility, which had a sign on the entrance requiring masks. When I reminded him of the sign, he said that I embarrassed him in front of everyone else who were wearing masks. I told him to get a freaking life.
We may end up having to take this vaccine each year, like the flu shot.
What if the cure is worse than the disease?
I understand that Pfizer's must be kept super-cold on dry ice and requires two innoculations - three weeks apart - so at least 4-5 weeks to be effective.
Moderna's only requires one innoculation and only refrigeration.
My money is on Moderna.
When I reminded him of the sign ...
Looks like both of you need to get a "freaking life".
The CDC isn't even bothering to collect flu stats this year 'due to covid". They instead decided to create a new stat called "PIC", which includes pneumonia, influenza, and covid. In other words, all flu and pneumonia is now officially a covid hospitalization/death.
"Due to the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic, this system will suspend data collection for the 2020-21 influenza season. Data from previous seasons are available on FluView Interactive."
https://web.archive.org/web/20201016155739/https:/www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/overview.htm#nav-group-f8610
This isn't about public health.
3:36, Is my leg wet because it's raining, or is it something else?
I tried to post a link to a student news letter from Johns Hopkins along the lines of this subject but I don't guess it passed the moderator. It seems we don't have enough excess deaths to account for the covid deaths. The news letter was posted and pulled after a few days. They couldn't allow that information out.
@6:34 PM
I'm familiar with the JH update you reference. I'm not sure I buy into the idea that it's true/correct. Yes, they posted it, but they pulled it due to errors.
The deaths are real. The question at hand is how many of those died 'of' covid and how many died 'with' covid. The number of deaths 'of' covid are much less than the 'official' count of 250k. If we counted the regular flu the way they are counting covid, we'd have 120K+ flu deaths every year.
List the errors pointed out as the reason that the Johns Hopkins newsletter was pulled, please.
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