Wednesday, February 3, 2016

Rudy declares war on Madison County

Rudy Warnock & Associates sued Madison County in U.S. District Court yesterday.  The case was assigned to Judge Carlton Reeves.  The plaintiff claims Madison County owes the firm $625,714.  Warnock also asked for interest and attorney's fees.  Dorsey Carson and Julie Skipper represent Warnock.  The complaint is posted below.





57 comments:

Anonymous said...

Keep burning those bridges Rudy.

Bill Dees said...

If someone demanded that I hand over my work product, but refused to pay for it, I'd sue, too.

Anonymous said...

When can we expect to see Dorsey on TV, trying this case thru the media? Also, do you think that Dorsey will buy Julie lunch for her work on this filing?

Anonymous said...

KF, Based on the number of comments on your last 4 articles.....everybody is watching signing day activities. Say something nasty about Ole Miss or State and watch the traffic start rising. You know, the important stuff.

Anonymous said...

I don't know why the county won't pay him, the county will get some of it back when he pays for his tag renewal on his BENTLEY?

Anonymous said...

It's the heavyweight legal battle you've all been waiting for ...

Katie Bryant

VERSUS

Julie Skipper (doing all the work for Dorsey)

Let's get ready to RUUUUMMMBBLLE!!!!

Anonymous said...

Guess after last Saturday's hearing on the motions in Karl Banks' so-called election contest, that Dorsey screwed up in his filings, Rudy figures he doesn't have a chance on getting Banks back on the BOS - so he'd better try to get what he can while he can.

Too bad he didn't try to collect the 10 year old invoices when he claimed he did the work.

Anonymous said...

Its going to be great when Madison County hires Butler Snow to defend them in this suit.

Anonymous said...

I would bet there is not $100,000 worth of work there.

Anonymous said...

its been over 37 years since I took federal jurisdiction in law school, so can some civil litigator explain how the federal court has any jurisdiction? not diversity and I can't see a federal question unless Madison County was supposed to use some federal funds on this projects and that suffices...

Anonymous said...

Surely the supes dotted their i's and crossed their t's before they voted to terminate Warnock and cease payments? Oh wait this is the same board who hired three engineers at their first meeting and then fired one the second meeting. And this is the group who had to amend the new attorney's contract within two weeks of hiring her. If Warnock milks the county for more money through this lawsuit, some of the blame should be laid at the feet of the new board members making halfwitted decisions without fully realizing that scope of their votes.

Anonymous said...

And if Warnock doesn't milk any more money from Madison County to be able to pay continued gratuities to those that were in power before, the new board members should be congratulated and thanked for putting a stop to the crap that has been going on up there for years.

Anonymous said...

Financial records will be opened for all parties. hope there is nothing fishy. bunch of people got rich around that time

Anonymous said...

There were no federal funds to be used for the engineering portion of the projects. I have no idea how this goes to a federal court. Maybe an attorney on here can say.

Anonymous said...

I'll only charge him $500k to do a feasibility study on his ability to recoup his $600k.

Apparently raiding the coffers through his normal "business" isn't working so he found another way to make money off of the county...

Anonymous said...

How is this a federal question?

17 USC 511 is, no immunity for violation of copyright.

Anonymous said...

2:52. When I read the complaint and saw the copyright bullshiz, I thought the same thing. I'm sure that claim will get dismissed, then it will get sent down to the circuit court where it belongs. they're also trying to claim it's an open account to avoid a statute of limitations problem on the breach of contract claim. I don't think this will be too heavy a lift for a decent firm.

Anonymous said...

Dorsey's Hail Mary because he knows he'll lose in State court.

Anonymous said...

Does Rudy really want to be deposed on his billing?!

Anonymous said...

why the hell didn't he throw an unjust enrichment claim in there?

Anonymous said...

Looks to me like Rudy needs to tell his top-notch lawyer where W&A is located.

According to website: "Warnock & Associates was founded to provide a valuable service to those who are seeking fast, efficient, accurate and affordable engineering services. We currently have staffed offices in Canton, MS and Carthage, MS."

According to lawsuit W&A is headquartered in Hinds County, MS.

Maybe while they were busy redating these old invoices the company address got changed at the same time.

Anonymous said...

2:52

NO NO NO

Little Phillette must do ALL legal work in house for 200K a year.

She better get her panties on, find a law library, and get to typing.....no help from Butler Snob now!

Anonymous said...

I hear that the new board attorney (katie) is not even doing the legal work. She recommends in executive session Monday that the board hire an outside firm to protect them from Warnck. Looks like MC is paying Katie to pick outside lawyers to do all the real legal work. She will make $200k per year to help deft the minutes. I bet MC will pay OVER $1M this year in legal fees. You folks in MC can thank Mary Hawkins Butler. LOL

Anonymous said...

Warnock set up his personal office in Jackson 2 years ago. I guess he was angling to get kennuf's biznesss. Too funny.

Anonymous said...

Fair question about Federal jurisdiction.

Regardless who defends the case, we'll soon know whether it was wise for Rudy to hand someone discovery and subpoena power.

Another random thought: I bet Tim Johnson is worried right now about going under oath.

Anonymous said...

6:03 PM

You are so correct.

Little Phillette is going to keep up with her hours by watching a real law firm do all the work.

She can keep her ledger at the beach!

Meanwhile, millions will go to outside counsel.

Oh, and there are other suits pending out there which she cannot even comprehend....so more money to more lawyers....but they did get rid of Espy....but he did manage to actually do some good for the county...like adding millions of dollars to the tax rolls in Lost Rabbit.....but who is looking at performance....

Anonymous said...

I just hope someone stages an intervention & makes Skipper eat solid food at least once a day.

Anonymous said...

I remain puzzled about why perhaps 1/2 of the readers on JJ think that this engineer should not be paid? Did the County hire him to do some work and agree to pay him a certain amount if he did it? Did he do the work? If he did not, or did not do it properly, where is the County's letter outlining his failures and stating how much they would pay? I understand there is some law that would allow the County not to pay if a certain amount of time had passed. Common sense tells me that the purpose of such a law is to keep the county from being blindsided by a billing from years ago that they were not expecting. In this case the billing was submitted in a timely manner. The County is not surprised to owe this money.
There is also a smaller group on JJ that presumes to know what a reasonable fee for various engineering services is, but they never say how they think they know this or what a reasonable fee would have been. I understand that when the power on the board of supervisors changes the county engineer was let go. The same thing could happen with an attorney who does work for the county, an architect, accountant, or other professional service that cannot be bid out for the lowest price. Does anyone on here know a reason why this man should not be paid? I mean a real, concrete, factual, reason, not some political squabble. I would like to know what it is. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

9:48 - do you know what a statute of limitations is? Jeeesh.

Anonymous said...

" In this case the billing was submitted in a timely manner."

Bills for work done about 10 years ago does not meet the straight-faced definition of "a timely manner" in our universe.

Anonymous said...

Rudy, talk to your lawyer before posting on social media ... oh wait, that may BE your lawyer.

Anonymous said...

Fine bunch of "MEN" on here with your comments about the Governor's daughter. Bunch of anonymous cowards who don't have a clue what you're talking about. Shame.

Anonymous said...

The ego of the PE is unrivaled. You'd think they all stayed in a Holiday Inn last night.

The problem is, there are going to be enough former and disgruntled employees that Rudy should worry. They will be the ones going to the county to detail accounts of billing fraud, if it exists. Here's hoping his nose is clean and he is entitled to 100% of his bills. Timely billing? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know you are grasping at straws when you do this. Hate it for his employees. If I worked there, I'd be updating my resume.

Anonymous said...

Who will be employed as outside counsel?

We need to start posting names.

Trey Baxter, given his tea party nature and hater of all lawyers, will likely push to hire Chris McDaniel. That would make perfect sense right?

Who else could be in the running....Butler Snob?

WIll they try to micro manage the suit to death?

This is going to be fascinating.

Anonymous said...

It seems unfathomable that Butler Snow will NOT be hired for this any many other matters. I mean that was the whole point of Phillette (like that a lot, going to keep using it) being hooked up with the job, right?

Anonymous said...

Supervisor: All right then, next on the agenda is a question about a county employee's job performance. I ... um ... I think we're going to need to go into executive session for this one. Let me ask our board attorney. Is that right?

Attorney: That ... is a great question. (Picks up red phone to Butler Snow)

Anonymous said...

Hey 10:49. I don't see your name posted!!! Are you one of those COWARDS????????

Anonymous said...

I think Rudy has fried his brain.

Anonymous said...

Now the Supervisors are considering a countywide tax increase for both garbage pickup and fire protection. Is Tim Johnson still on the Board? I wonder if Mary will fight this one like she did the last one since her cronies now run the Board. They gave the new prosecuting attorney a $27,ooo raise. Philette is calling the AG and Auditors office for everything since she obviously cannot read and understand the law. Seems they should manage better rather than increase taxes.

The people of Madison County should revolt if they increase taxes. Better management is the key. A $75 million budget should be enough. It did not take long for the newly elected Supervisors feel the power and screw the people.

Kingfish said...

Fire Districts. My understanding is they want to abolish all of fire districts and create one that is countywide. No more little districts or fiefdoms. In other words, centralize and make more efficient. Not up to speed on this issue, just what I was told is the game plan.

Anonymous said...

i know gluckstadt is voting for a fire protection tax increase for a tax we have already been paying illegally. give us a refund

Anonymous said...

Gonna be a looonnnnngggggggg 4 years for the defenders of the former MadisonCo status quo whining here.

Anonymous said...

NO tax increases. Manage more efficiently.

Anonymous said...

I moved from "Madison the City" 18 months a ago back home to SC, my question is what ever happened to the "Rudy Toody Fresh & Fruity International Airport?

Anonymous said...

February 4, 2016 at 10:44 AM = Thad Cochran voter

Anonymous said...

The old group of Supervisors were corrupt. Phil has taken charge of the new Supervisors by using his donors money funneled to certain new Supervisors. Corruption with the new ones is already seeping in.

Anonymous said...

"Common sense tells me that the purpose of such a law is to keep the county from being blindsided by a billing from years ago that they were not expecting. In this case the billing was submitted in a timely manner. The County is not surprised to owe this money. '

Read the facts of the case. Some of these 'invoices' are from ten years ago - but have now been redated to make them within three years. And others were for work that exceeded the maximum legally allowable.

From my understanding there are questions about some of the remaining invoices that need to be resolved, but Rudy wasn't willing to discuss or substantiate them without dealing with all - including those from 2006 and 2007 that were not submitted back then but were held until those that he had been paying on the BOS were on their way out.

Lot more here than your simplistic set of questions. The new board evidently is not going to continue business as usual, which evidently was whenever Rudy needed some money - either to run his office or to 'help' those that had their hands out.

Anonymous said...

The 'garbage fees' are not a tax increase. And I don't believe they are county wide. If I read the news correctly it is the cost of operating the recycling program and only for the area where recycling is operating. It reflects the cost of the program being charged by the contractor.

Fees for service are not the same as taxes. You want recycling, you pay for it. Frankly, I don't understand or agree with having a recycling program that costs money - thought the purpose was to save money while saving Al Gore's planet. But thats for another day.

If running the recycling program costs $xxx per household, I would expect the county to charge $xxx dollars to those households. I don't want them to charge more - but I also don't want them to charge less because then you are subsidizing the program with MY tax dollars.

Anonymous said...

"Lot more here than your simplistic set of questions." That is why I asked the questions. I am not surprised there is more to the story. I would like to know what it is.
In a related matter - the demise of good newspapers is really hurting the nation and it will only get worse. In hind site all the newspapers should have been 100% subscription from the minute they went online. Then they would challenge their employees to provide content that was so much better than free content that people would pay for it. We really need impartial newspapers who will fully investigate things that are in the public interest. Looks like that is gone forever.

Roast Beef for The Kickoff said...

Will Rudy continue buying the block of high dollar club-level seats at MSU? Those are some mighty expensive seats that come with all the food one can chow down, a liquor locker, elevator privileges and probably a personal catheter?

Madison County has paid that tab for over a decade.

Check Your Package said...

...the demise of good newspapers is really hurting the nation and it will only get worse. In hind site all the newspapers should have been 100% subscription from the minute they went online. Then they would challenge their employees to provide content that was so much better than free content that people would pay for it. We really need impartial newspapers who will fully investigate things that are in the public interest.

YOU are living in a dreamland. You better be hitting that JJ tip jar HEAVY because Kingfish, the Journalist, is the closest you'll find to fully investigative in ALL OF MISSISSIPPI.

Anonymous said...

Rudy said he is getting a skybox this year.....

Anonymous said...

Rudy might even invite Trey to come hang out in his sky box so he can give Trey tips on how to be a Stupevisor. Or maybe he will invite Sheila so she can serve drinks. Maybe Steeno so he can get free gas to the game like all of Steens kids. Hell maybe they will all ride together and have Bishop drive. At any rate will be one hell of a party. Maybe I'll get invited. Can't invite Hardy. His bag ain't big enough.

Anonymous said...

Sheila is an Ole Miss fan and will decline. The rest can ride with Gene in his black Escalade.

The County Teat said...

Bill Dees: Please pay attention. This isn't about work product. It's about bogus invoices.

Besides if you get offended by someone demanding that you do something, you simply don't do it. You don't sue them for demanding.

Try to keep up. Rudy wants them to recognize bogus invoices that either represent (1) double billing, (2) work never performed, (3) work claimed that is outside the parameters of the statute of limitations or (4) Work never done but paid for already in the past by the prior board.

Anonymous said...

Fees are the way to go for recycling and garbage pickup. No tax increase on those that do not use county garbage system. Landowners, businesses who pay for their own pickup etc. should not have a tax increase.

Works Like Dis Here.. said...

8:48; whether you haul your own garbage off or not, your taxes (and mine) pay to ensure that the county is cleaned up so that garbage doesn't accumulate. Same with schools. Whether you have a kid in school, your taxes (and mine) pay for the education of children.

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