Tuesday, January 13, 2015

Residents express concern over Colonial plans.

 Copy of zoning application.  The application is still active. The Zoning Board will hold a hearing on January 22, 2015.

Here is the video of the town hall meeting that was held last week at the Colonial Country Club.  The new owners of the site discussed  possible options with neighboring residents of the area.  The tract is 150 acres.  Over 120 people showed up for the meeting. 

The overwhelming consensus of everyone was that no apartments should be built on the site.  Black, white, young, old, it didn't matter.  No apartments was the theme.    Some neighbors expressed concern about drainage issues as they feared water running off onto their properties.  Others expressed a desire for minimum square footage requirements.   The owners said they saw an opportunity to purchase an attractive piece of property and did so- for $1 million from Trustmark.

One thing should be pointed out that is sometimes left out of this discussion.  One of Jackson's biggest problems is mentioned when its future is discussed.  Its not crime, infrastructure, taxes, or education.  Land.  Jackson is pretty much "built out".  When is the last time a new subdivision was built in Jackson, much less in the growth pattern of north and east?  There has been no land available in decades to build a brand new subdivision.  It strains the imagination to think there is no demand for such property. 


Anonymous said...

There is plenty of land available in Jackson free of any structures waiting to be redeveloped. The idea that the city is "built out" is bunk.

Anonymous said...

Not just no land, but where there is, most houses go for $500k and up. Convinced there is demand for $350k new houses in Jackson.

Anonymous said...

LMAO. Yeah, right. The sweet spot in car-Jackustan is $350,000. If only there was some land, a minimum of crime and some halfway decent public schools. LMAO LMAO LMAO

Needs An Answer said...

If you build them, who will come? Please be specific.

Anonymous said...

There is also a demand for a liquor store, pawn shop, hair braiding, and check cashing business on this property. Maybe more town homes?

Anonymous said...

The MS Supreme Court noted in 1997 that Jackson had 40.15 square miles of vacant land within the city. (IN RE: the ENLARGEMENT AND EXTENSION OF THE MUNICIPAL BOUNDARIES OF THE CITY OF JACKSON - No. 93-CA-00734-SCT - March 27, 1997.) Of course, some of that land is in a flood plain, but I'm not buying that the city has developed 40 square miles (or 10, for that matter) in the past 17 years and is now "built out."

Incidentally, Mississippi Supreme Court in City of Jackson v. Byram Incorporators (16 So.3d 662, 684 (2009)) noted "[t]he chancellor . . . found that Jackson's population is projected to start increasing in 2010." Err, yeah. And some of y'all want to turn over education funding to these chancellors?

Anonymous said...

When we say Jackson is "built out," are we talking about northeast Jackson or Jackson as a whole? My impression of Jackson as a whole is that there are numerous stretches of land either undeveloped or with abandoned/ underused structures on them. It is true that much of this land may be hard to acquire and hard to develop, but the problem is no different here than it would be for any other city of any size and age. If being "built out" is one of Jackson's main problems, it is one that is unsolvable and common to all cities. The key is to figure out how to creatively use the resources we have to make urban life as appealing or even more appealing than life in less-developed suburbs. As much as I love Jackson, I must also admit that a young family looking for a safe and affordable starter home (whether new or old) tends to have to look elsewhere than here. That is a tragedy.

Anonymous said...

Jackson is built out? How many acres are sitting idle thanks to out-of-state owners of run-down shanties?

Anonymous said...

So - how many double-wides could fit onto this property?

Anonymous said...

get your numbers from rankin county. they would surely know.

Anonymous said...

Approximately 16 residential lots on the MLS in 39211. Approximately 180 residential lots on the MLS in 39110. That's what no land means to me.

Anonymous said...

Built out? Look at lake Hico between Forest Ave and 220, or farther down around Hanging Moss and Meadow road. Two large, undeveloped tracts of land. If Jackson is built out and needs new subdivisions, why is no one building there?

I guess everyone's a bunch of racists, because those aren't in predominantly white areas, right?

Hey, Donna Ladd and Todd Stauffer? Why don't you live by Lake Hico? Why aren't you investing in a new subdivision off Hanging Moss, since you two are the only purely non-racist white people in town?

Kingfish said...

I should have been more clear. I did say growth path. That would be north and east.

Anonymous said...

What does growth path mean?

Pittpanther said...

I know you guys are always trying to be funny by railing on the black community, but I can show undeveloped land in NE Jackson also. The corner of Ridgewood & Lenox. I've been driving past there for years waiting for something to be built. So far, Nothing.

The drawback of living in a city with low property values (when compared to major cities) is that home construction doesn't make as much money here, and therefore doesn't attract investment.

Sure, a Socrates Garrett can build himself a palace, but a developer would never do that, because it would take years to find a buyer.

Anonymous said...

He hinted at a private school and denied a JPS proposal which has me thinking if not a private school, then a charter school.

It seems like the "pinned down" target demographics would be younger single people and/or couples with or without kids which means the houses-condos(if allowed) would need to be more affordable than the wished for $350,000 per lot.
(I could be wrong, but that's just my opinion)
Or, the demographic could be geriatrics (nursing home folk)-
It would kinda be weird for a retirement home to go there.

At this point all one can do is speculate since contracts with developers haven't been acquired.

Anonymous said...

Pitt drive by again and then come back and apologize....

Fortune Seeker said...

The only way investors will move forward is for more apartments to be at the other end of this rainbow. Since none are allowed in Madison and Ridgeland seems to have a moratorium on them (and already has about ten thousand units), the demographic that migrates to such housing is the only piece of the puzzle that will make money for an investor.

As soon as I can find out when construction begins, Ima open a BBQ grill store near the property and make millions. And my cousin gonna sell boxed worms and poles on my propity.

Anonymous said...

That's childsplay 6:58. The real money is in hairweaves and disposable white t shirts.

Anonymous said...

@ Jan. 13, 6:10 PM re your response to Pitt...

Are you referring to this lovely fence enclosure of a bunch of high weeds? That's some development.


Anonymous said...

There is one house nearly complete in the formerly empty wooden weed enclosure. Granted, it has taken YEARS for that one house to be built, it has been built. Now all they need to do is add gun towers at each corner of the compound and they may fill that area up.

Anonymous said...

Guess all the race-baiters and truly mean bloggers have migrated here since the C-L made them use their names. It was not too many years ago that Christ United Methodist tried to buy that property. I believe that a mixed use development would be great there. Not sure about a school but a good day care and pre-school should be part of the development.

Anonymous said...

Guess all the race-baiters and truly mean bloggers have migrated here since the C-L made them use their names.

JJ Greenhorn

Anonymous said...

Use the land for a funeral home and cemetery. Your neighbors would not bother you!

Anonymous said...

I wish there was was a like button on here. 8:21 might get a few. That's funny

Anonymous said...

"Use the land for a funeral home and cemetery. Your neighbors would not bother you! "

I knew a young couple who bought a house previously owned by a high school classmate of mine. They were attracted by the ad that said "Quiet neighbors".

Yep - it backed up to a cemetery.

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