Friday, August 7, 2020

C19 Update: Flattening?

The Mississippi State Department of Health reported 1,036 new cases of the Wuhan virus yesterday as well as 23 new deaths. The total number of cases is 65,436 . The virus has caused 1,848 deaths. Nursing home deaths comprise 45% of overall Covid-19 deaths in Mississippi. There are 42,391 recoveries. More information and a complete list of infected counties can be found at the MSDH website. The Rt factor is 0.98.










Mississippi caught a much needed break on hospitalizations but ICUs and vents remained at their record highs.




There is some good news on the transmission front.  The Rt value fell below 1.0.  It was 1.0 yesterday.  This is the first time in a long time the value has been at or below 1.0 in quite some time.




34 comments:

Anonymous said...

By the chart it is actually declined a touch and the rt is doing better and below the 1 baseline. Come on folks, drop the masks, get close, open the bars and public arenas that have been closed down. We need to get these numbers back up. Need to hear more bitchin.

Anonymous said...

“It is what it is.”

Anonymous said...

Can't have that!

Anonymous said...

I'd like to respond to the "these folks would've died anyway" argument that I've seen on this board numerous times, including on yesterday's post. One way to debunk that argument is to look at total numbers of deaths this year, from any and all causes, and compare them to prior years. This factors out all the flaws in the way we're collecting covid data. Is it 100% accurate in identifying deaths from covid? No. Is it more accurate than our testing, diagnosing, and reporting system? Probably. Mississippi had 2,700 excess deaths as of July 25, which is much higher than our official covid numbers. The US had over 200,000 excess deaths as of the same date, which is also higher than official national covid numbers. This would be consistent with the antibody tests which show that we're vastly under-reporting infections. See here: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/05/05/us/coronavirus-death-toll-us.html

You can try to explain this away all you want, but at the end of the day, all you're doing is making yourself psychologically comfortable so that you can live in your own universe where you are absolved of all guilt and all responsibility.

Anonymous said...

The elephant in the room is what will going back to school do to the infection rate. Dr. Dobbs admitted it is inevitable there will be outbreaks among the kids. There are 500,000 school age kids in Mississippi, and that is a lot of potential virus vectors packed together in close proximity. From what I've seen most schools that are going back look like that one in Georgia with kids walking all over themselves in the hallways.

Add to that the 100,000 college enrollees who are going to be the ones most likely to party in unmitigated crowds and you've got the potential to see the infection rate shoot back up dramatically.

We'll be above 2,000 infections per day in the next month.

Anonymous said...

Don’t tell me to take it seriously AFTER you’re on oxygen and can barely breathe! Crying “I should’ve listened.”

Anonymous said...

6:25, I would tend to agree....except many daycare centers stayed opened March - August and never shut their doors....taking care of kids of the "essential workers" and we have not heard of contagion from that. I am not a doctor and I am not about to try to explain it, but some of the larger daycares had hundreds of snot-nosed pre-kindergarten kids for months, yet the spread seems to be more from adult interaction in small spaces.

We'll be studying this crap ten years from now. We must don't really know much today.

Anonymous said...

It's flat. Time to stop talking about this, reporting about it, and worrying about it. Let's get back to the way things were in March. Now.

Anonymous said...

@6:27pm - The covidiots will not take it seriously even at that point.

someone said...

reopening schools will be(is) a disaster. idiots!

Anonymous said...

Nice to see something good about this plague. I still figure it will be with us two years from now, with lots of dead folks left in its wake.

Anonymous said...

@6:25,

I agree with you, especially your last sentence. People, get ready.

Anonymous said...

I was born 16 weeks premature back in 1950. The doctor showed my parents a chart I wouldn't live past 2 weeks. I'm now 70 years old, so Now, I really don't put much stock in charts.

Anonymous said...

" Add to that the 100,000 college enrollees who are going to be the ones most likely to party in unmitigated crowds and you've got the potential to see the infection rate shoot back up dramatically."

Good point.

But don't forget these same college kids always cause a spike in STD stats at the start of every Fall semester.

But at the same time, burning or itching genitalia do not normally require a ventilator.

Anonymous said...

Good news is ridiculed, bad news is relished. What the hell? Exactly.

Ima Git Me Wunna Them Diploomers said...

So many Facebook medical opinions to absorb...so little time.

The number of people with Facebook medical degrees with an undergraduate major in Statistical Analysis is, in a word...astonishing.

Anonymous said...

i find it amazing that we are doing worse than Sweden (who is just about last in Europe).

all they did was ban gatherings of over 50 people and recommended 6ft social distance.

no lockdown. no mask.

how can they do it with those two guidelines?

comes down to people. they listened and even that minimal of instructions worked.

fact is- people here that were supposed to be under stricter restrictions didn’t do any, and we are doing worse than even the most minimal other nations. let that sink in.

block party anyone??

Calm Down said...

CNN finally reporting on existing T-cell immunity in a large % of the population.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/02/health/gupta-coronavirus-t-cell-cross-reactivity-immunity-wellness/index.html

"Importantly, we detected SARS-CoV-2-reactive CD4+ T cells in 40%–60% of unexposed individuals, suggesting crossreactive T cell recognition between circulating ‘‘common cold’’ coronaviruses and SARS-CoV-2.

Anonymous said...

Regarding "these folks would've died anyway" along with the "excess deaths" post. People die every day of many varied things. You calling them excess is ridiculous. You may be trying to say we have control over ours or others death. We do not with possibly the act of suicide. I learned a long time ago as I watched my friends and people I knew die in the youth of their lives, and wondered why I was making it (guilt). I finally realized that I and no one else had any control of this. You get hit by a truck/car which you try to avoid, you have a coronary which you try to avoid, a person trying to rob you kills you with a weapon (which you try to avoid), etc.

Psychologically comfortable, you are damn right I'm comfortable realizing my time on earth is not something I control. I live with my guilt for actions I've taken in my life and all responsibility associated with them. As another poster stated, I have little use for charts as they have been essentially useless in my last 70 years of life.

By the way, I survived a positive Covid without being tubed and on a vent at home. Not everyone who tests positive is consigned to hospitalization, CPAP or Vent. Stay frosty my friends you are your own worst enemy.

Anonymous said...

1:49 am I’m equally astonished that those who got medical degrees lack the imagination to wonder if the technology And information flow that improved their chosen professional focus might have occurred elsewhere as well and they missed it.
Much of what I learned getting my degrees became outdated especially in synergistic professional overlaps.

Really smart people know what they don’t know and try to continue to learn .

Anonymous said...

No stimulus, no extended unemployment is going to drive many of the vulnerable to high risk exposure. It's fantastic that we are flattening the curve. We better take what little time we have to restock and reload for the next wave that is sure to come after Labor Day and once school starts.

Anonymous said...

I truly hope that things are getting better. However, yesterday, a long-time friend from New Orleans passed away from COVID-19. Before he got the virus, he had no underlying health conditions, wasn't overweight, didn't smoke, etc.

Anonymous said...

"Much of what I learned getting my degrees became outdated especially in synergistic professional overlaps."

Then you must have majored in corporate buzzwords and run on sentences.

Anonymous said...

HCQ would have saved tens of thousands, but it’s pennies a dose and would not allow the deaths the Democrats need for the fear factor to Kill the economy. It’s all about November.

Anonymous said...

Imagine that. We intentionally refused to treat anyone other than covid + for over a quarter of a year and we’re surprised we have “excess deaths.”

Anonymous said...

8:58 Do you take a draw on your cigarette between drinking beers driving down the road in your 1955 Chevy with no seat belts while texting your friends? There are plenty of things we can do or avoid that will help prevent our death. The fact that some things out of our control could kill us is not a reason to do nothing.

I get a checkup from my doctor every year. He diagnosed high blood pressure for which I’m taking medicine. He also found a spot on my skin that turned out to be precancerous and cut it off. Are you saying I’m wasting my time and treating things like that have no chance at extending my life? I guess I’ll maintain the illusion that eating right, exercising, maintaining a normal weight, and avoiding smoking & excess alcohol will help me live longer.

Anonymous said...

Take a look at the LTC names and numbers, some of these places have 90-95% infection rate of their residents. These are the nice places, places that cost 5-6-7k a month. Most of these folks are dying alone after being alone for over 3 months. Families are sitting and waiting for the call. It is real and in our community.

Anonymous said...

“How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the...COVID."

Anonymous said...

What we really need is to have our wonderful AG send letters to the testing facilities demanding that they quit merely working as fast as they can on testing and begin immediately to work faster than they can or be sued by the state.

This week, at least one state did this very thing and testing labs have responded. One lab CEO is reported to have said, "Er, WTF?"

When it was pointed out to one AG that there is a severe shortage of testing supplies, the AG's office responded, "We aren't interested in hearing about such alleged issues. If this alleged problem with alleged supplies was real, out-of-work bartenders, plumbers, middle managers, housewives and voodoo queens would be blathering on and on about secret alternatives on social media, and thus far, the AG's office hasn't found any evidence of this." Another CEO was reported to have said, "Er, WTF?"

Anonymous said...

Let's get back in bounds here for a minute.

The shutdown was never meant to stop the virus, that cannot be done. It was purely to protect the hospitals from too many patients. Then they all, and the USA as a whole, went into the red abyss because of that monumental miscalculation.

Originally we were told mask provided no protection. It was purely to protect the supply for the benefit of medical personnel. So, that was, if you believe the current propaganda, an outright lie.

So, forgive me for being skeptical of anything else they tell us, and threatening your programming.

Anonymous said...

"Originally we were told mask provided no protection. It was purely to protect the supply for the benefit of medical personnel. So, that was, if you believe the current propaganda, an outright lie.

So, forgive me for being skeptical of anything else they tell us, and threatening your programming."

This is just willfully ignorant and completely self-contradictory thinking...and it is rampant. Allow to prove it:

Assume "they" (whoever "they" might be) were lying when they said that a mask provided no protection. If you believe that "they" were lying to you, then the first thing a staunch defender of rights would have done is to immediately begin to wear a mask. If you now claim that wearing a mask doesn't really provide any protection, then "they" weren't lying, you are now lying about "them." If "they" were lying, you really aren't the "free will and rights" person you claim because you weren't wearing a mask in defiance back when "they" were lying about it. However, if wearing a mask really does protect people, but you refuse to wear one to defy "them," you are a moron. And in any case, you have based your actions completely upon what the dreaded "they" are saying., i.e., _you_ are a sheeple. So, sheeple, pick - are you a hypocritic sheeple, a moronic sheeple, or a hypocritical moronic sheeple?

Now, for the sensible people out there, many doctors have been begging people to wear masks since nearly the get-go, but even the ones that weren't were wearing them themselves. Put another way, if you wanted to learn more about football, would you watch and learn from "The NFL's All-Time Great Highlights" video, or "100 Years of Baseball's Biggest Errors?" So maybe, just maybe, if you want to know what doctors and experts on viruses think about masks, watch them. Or watch your Facebook feed to find out what random welders, mechanics, and housewives think. Why, shoot, you ought to be kicking home runs and getting touchdowns on the first pitch within no time flat!

Anonymous said...

" I get a checkup from my doctor every year. He diagnosed high blood pressure for which I’m taking medicine."

Yep, after age 40 . . . all doctor's diagnose the same thing.

Most "sheeple" freak out and buy said script.

That's exactly why the medical and pharmaceutical industry executives are billionaires.

Anonymous said...

You are so correct, 7:10. After hitting 70 my doctor noticed my bp was increasing and started talking about me needing to start feeding your BigPharma boogieman.

He did suggest that first I should purchase me a cuff and start checking my bp first, though, which I did and found that his reading wasn't just an anomaly but in fact showed that he was correct - the bp had a higher high and a higher low.

But I'm sure you are correct, those damn docs are only trying to make more money for BigPharma. If they write that script just because the numbers starting hitting 200 and 100, they will make many more dollars - way more than they will make if I continue to visit them twice a year on a regular basis plus a few extra trips when something serious happens. My new pharma bill - paid to CVS, who I am sure had to pay the BigPharma folks for the pills - will surely be more profitable to my doc with the cut he gets off of it; gotta be at least .03/pill.

Bulls**t. Pharmacuticals have been the best thing that has happened to medicine over my seven decades; things that used to be treated with surgery can now be treated with pills. Many things can be avoided with pills.

Are there abuses? Damn right. How many pills have I taken over the past three decades? Less than 10 - I've been lucky. But I have seen parents survive with a much better lifestyle because BigPharma's advances made their life better ---- and I hope if I need their help to control whatever issue comes in the coming years that they will be there to help.

And I don't believe a damn doc that I would ever darken the doors of his/her clinic would be prescribing one of those pills because of all the money he would make off of it, despite your opposite opinion.

Anonymous said...

7:10 Are you saying he was lying when he said “your BP is 170 over 100. That’s too high and can lead to a stroke. Here’s some medicine to get it down.” I bought a cuff that day at the pharmacy and monitored it afterward. It was high for a while until he finally found the right medicine. I’m well within normal weight and watch my salt. It happens.

Keep on with the conspiracy theories. I generally trust my doctor.



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