Jackson Jambalaya

Not another journalist in all of Mississippi who hits for the cycle as often as you do Kingfish. Not.a.one!

You are in the tank. You put statements in here that have been shown to you to be irrelevant and also not factual.

Constables are by statute part time employees of the county. So to refer to them as similar situation is just you showing your rear end.

The tax assessor might "own" part of an appraisal business but according to the testimony on the coast several years ago, he does not provide private appraisal work.

Supervisors are part time employees, again by definition.

Frankly, I don't care whether Hancock is full time or part time. If she wants to practice law and it is allowed by statute, fine. But - if the county expected her to be full time when they gave her a 30% pay raise, then she either ought to be full time or else the county ought to take back the extra $28k.

All the other crap that you and your asskisser at 5:51 thinks is relevant has nothing to do with the issue at hand - which is, simply: Whether the pay raise given by the supervisors was done under different assumptions. Not necessarily a fault due to either of the parties - but, if they expected her to not be in the private practice of law and she wants to continue to do so, they ought to take back the extra $$$s. If she wants the extra money and full time (no private practice) is the condition precedent, then ball is in her court.

The rest of the crap is just that. I don't care what 'the office' collected this month. If it was there to be collected then I'm happy to see that she (or more probably, her staff) is doing their job. The one she ran for and was getting paid for.

What any other official (tax assessor, constable, sheriff, DA, or whoever - does in the prosecution of their office is nothing but smelly stuff to drag across the road to throw off the bloodhounds from their scent.

I did not say constable was a full time job. I said their other jobs were full time and they happen to be full time county jobs.

The real question is what did the voters expect when they elected Hancock?

You are in the tank.

[AND] you only come here to bitch and moan and whine. When you start your own all-knowing gig share a link to that location and we'll see if you step up to publishing even remotely the plethora of bullshit KF greenlights from your own sorry ass.

Sally Struthers Hancock pulled the wool over the eyes of the Tea Party elite.

She batted those long eye lashes and said she would work "full time yall."

Then, after she got her raise and kept her practice...she said "lots of people work 2 full time jobs yall."

She played these fools like a fiddle. They look stupid...immediately.

Good thing theres a new BOS!

What a damn joke.

Oh and KF got tons of emails about Sally Struthers....it took him a week to report the CL busting Sally in her brazen lies.

Maybe KF gets a special rate from Sally?

The only "tons" of emails I got was several from you, Billy Bob, and it was quite clear you have a personal beef with her.

Anonymous at 7:43, what did the voters expect, well they wanted someone in that position that would work more than her predecessor did. He was only working maybe 2 days a week and getting paid $92,000, she claims to be working 5 days a week and on call to officers and other attorneys, and is getting paid $120,000. I believe if you do the math, the county is getting more out of her than her predecessor.

8:50....She's been in the job for less than two months. It's a little early to fully assess what the county is "getting out of her".

So far, she has been on the job less than 4% of the total four year term to which she was elected. When she asked for a $28,000 raise, she had been in the job one month out of the 48 month term. That's 2%. YOU do the math.

Who knows? By the end of six months, she might have figured out how to do the county job in 3.5 days per week and by the end of the second year, she might be in the office, on average, 2.5 days per week. If that turns out to be the case, then they'll wake up and realize the taxpayers got screwed in the salary deal.

8:22 What do eye lashes, or looks at all really, have to do with any of this? No offense to the Ms. Hancock, but my wife and I didn't vote for her based on looks. We voted for her because she walked our entire neighborhood one Saturday morning prior to primaries in 90 something degree heat, introduced herself and explained the duties of the job, then answered our questions for 10 minutes. She went door to door actually knocking and conversing, not just sending teens to throw fliers on porches, which unfortunately is the norm.

What's got Steen riled up? One minute he says "full time" to him isn't M-F 8-5, next minute he claims "full time to me is not two days a week". The lady just told them she worked 48 hours the prior week, which included a couple of 12 hour days. Which is it Gerald....full time quantified by time at the office or not?

I love seeing men white knight on her behalf.

One minute she’s a “big girl” and can handle criticism…the next she requires an advocacy piece written in defense for her.

I don't know how many hours are needed to do a good job as a prosecuting attorney.
I don't know the potential conflicts of interest that could arise.
But, generally, I would think one couldn't do both jobs either ethically or efficiently without one of the jobs suffering.

6:57: Steen NEVER said 8-5 was not full time to him. I was sitting on the second row when he clearly said that "Full time to me is more like 8-5, Monday thru Friday. Sheila also said, earlier, that 'Pammy' had told (me) she would not be working at the law firm and would be full time but now the court clerk had promised Sheila that she was there full time. Just watch, in two years she'll be hard to find around the courthouse buildings in Canton unless court is in session.

It is a problem throughout Madison County. Elected officials are elected and then do not work. The county pays their employees and the elected official shows u[ from time to time. This is true of the Tax Assessor, Tax Collector and others. All of those elected officials should be held accountable. Also, there are some employees that seldom show up for work, but the elected official they work for does not care.

Anonymous 8:44, Just to help you out with some facts, Pamela Hancock NEVER said she would not be working at the law firm, she has a along stated and continues to stat that she is working full time as Madison County Prosecutor, which is more than her predecessor ever did in his 12 years, the last several years collecting $92,000 a year for full time work 2 days a week. I also have attended all of the meeting myself.

Sheila Jones and Tony Greer are vacationing in Washington on taxpayer expense. So Sheila should just keep her mouth shut. Greet drives a county vehicle back and forth to Clinton every day. That is commuting. Calculate the cost of driving back and forth from Clinton to Canton every day. this is in addition to a salary of almost $120,000 a year. One set of thieves get kicked out, another set of thieves go into office.

If they are elected means they are a politician. If they are a politician that means they are crooked.
There should be an age limit on who can post on here. Just reading the posts a person would get the idea there are a lot of grade school kids posting.
Imagine a grow person not knowing a politician was crooked.

Great job by Geoff Pender exposing how our "distinguished" legislators (Rep and Dem alike) use campaign funds to pay personal expenses and effectively supplementing their public salary. Meanwhile, their mindless partisan followers ignore the hypocrisy of elected officials railing about transparency of agencies and agency officials while living off of campaign funds provided primarily by special interests.

Now it all makes sense why no other elected officials went after Pickering for "dipping" into campaign funds. It appears we have an in-bread political structure in Mississippi. As long as everyone is getting his/hers, no problem.

9:55 -what does any of that have to do with the price of a barrel of apples in Montgomery? Or, what the county pays to a prosecuting attorney?

Nothing. But I guess it gave you a chance to bitch about not getting the county admin position.

11:28 - Pender, in all his excellence, only pointed to one Dem in his article. That being AG Jim Hood, who is one of the biggest violators. And one of the individuals responsible for seeing that laws are followed.

Not disagreeing that there are several Repubs that follow this practice, but if anyone could check the entire black caucus of legislators they would find more violations there than anywhere. Problem is, many of those don't file complete reports to begin with; their receipts and expenditures are grossly lacking.

This entire issue is simple.

Pammie went and asked for a 40% raise once she started her first year in office.

The BOS voted to give her the raise. Some argue that the board 'understood' that she would be working full-time and that was their basis for providing the raise.

If the BOS is not satisfied with her continuing relationship - whatever it is - with her law firm, they should take back the raise.

If Pammie only wants the job with the 40% increase in pay, and the board agrees but with these terms, she can either keep the elected position and work on those terms, or go back to the $92,000 and continue to work with her law firm.

All this other crap is just that. The BOS doesn't set the hours, terms, or pay for the Assessor, Collector, Clerks, etc. The system that does is crappy, but the terms are not set by the BOS. Pammie's position does have this flexibility. The Board has the right to raise the pay; the Board has the right to put terms and conditions on that raise.

Simple. All the rest of this is folks that like her and want to defend her; folks that don't like her; and folks that don't like the Board. Get back to the issue.

In the private sector, full time means a minimum of 40 hours per week. You're expected to work as many hours as needed beyond 40 if you have deadlines and commitments that require it. You're never allowed to work fewer than 40 hours.

If she's working two full time jobs, that means she's walking out the door exactly at 5pm every day from her Madison gig. Don't expect any extra hours or extra efforts, because her other job is expecting her participation.

This is an unreasonable situation.

KF, your post is disingenuous, at best. You don't address the issue, which is "Is MS Hancock working full time as a County Prosecuting Attorney." The Ethics in Government laws permit part time work, as do the statutes creating the County Attorney position. Part time CPAs get paid around $28,000. If Ms Hancock spends even one working hour doing any work other than that of County Attorney, she is not working "full time" for the County. It's really pretty simple. You should be ashamed of yourself.

I think Pammie should keep her private practice and take the $28,000 as a part-time county prosecutor for the next 4 years, then exit stage left before the next election.

I’m not sure if her ego would allow for that.

Jim Galloway, you should be ashamed of such a ridiculous comment, you are basically saying that if a individual works full time for any job, and part time for another job they should be classified as part time for both. That is insane. Kingfish has the Ethics opinion, maybe you should re-read it and than apologize to Kingfish.

9:54 be stoppin' by to say, "Just to help you out with some facts, Pamela Hancock NEVER said she would not be working at the law firm, she has a along stated and continues to stat that she is working full time.....I also have attended all of the meeting myself."

Well, I do declare. But, the conversations she had with Board Members Steen and Jones were private conversations regarding her full time work. You were NOT in attendance at those discussions. Both of them, initially said they were deceived and misled.

Problem was, the new president called for a motion, allowed zero discussion, had none, none was asked for and the vote resulted in a waste of $28 thousand annually. That's a quarter of a million dollars in eight years. Chump change, right?

Anonymous 3:23, this is really not worth a response, but you must be a Allen Phillips supporter, you say exit stage left, that's what he did when he lost the election in August, he failed to work in November and December, along with taking a week off the day after the election all the while getting paid full time by county. Why you insist on trying to bash Pammi, (not Pammie), I'm not sure. Maybe you should exit stage left!

Typical. We say we want more jobs, someone gets elected who provides jobs through her law firm. Nitwits criticize and want to penalize her.

Calculate Dis Here, Were you at the so called "PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS" regarding her full time work? I believe and STATE for FACT you were NOT. Unless you are in fact Jones or Steen, BAM! Jones and Steen have never said they were deceived or misled, if you recall the last board meeting Steen himself said to Hancock he was not mislead. Were you there?

" If Ms Hancock spends even one working hour doing any work other than that of County Attorney, she is not working "full time" for the County. It's really pretty simple. "

That's the dumbest thing I've ever read on this blog (and there have been some monstrously stupid things said here).

There have been several times in my life I have worked a full-time (40 hour week) and then worked a second, unrelated, part-time job.

As for Pitt Panther's ignorance of the private sector, well - I have no idea where to start. Apparently he feels employers can force employees to work more than 40 hours without paying them. Well, that kind of depends on the union's contract, and probably ties into dat ol' debil The Emancipation Proclamation too. Ask Walmart how that works - they got fined beaucoups bucks for making employees keep working after they had punched out.

Let's focus on results. If she doesn't hack it in her elected position, elect someone else next time. If she gets the job done in less than 40 weeks, why penalize her for being efficient, or "working smarter" then her predecessor?

Give her a chance to do the job. Time will tell if her collections stay high and she gets the job done , we will all know in a years time. She may decide the job is not flexible enough to run her practice or the supervisors may see she can't do both BuT right now there has not been enough time to tell. Everyone deserves a chance. Give her ample time before you make assumptions. Time will telll, it always does!

The judges are afforded six months to wind down their private practice and no one is saying anything to them about that.

It only took Will Longwitz 15 minutes to wind down his law practice.

9:44pm, you might want to look up the difference between hourly and salaried employees. Here's a hint, she's salaried. That means she might work 40, 50, 60, hours per week. Whatever it takes to get the job done that week. Pretty standard in the white collar world.

Once you're no longer confused, read my earlier post again. This time you might actually understand it.

Sally Struthers lied.

She gave her word she would be full time at county.

That implies no other work. Steen thought thats what she stated.

Sally got her extra coins and with it the largest pay raise in the shortest period of time...all with zero experience in the field.

So an unqualified person lies to the new tea party BOS to extract more money and that is acceptable behavior?

Trey Baxter, Steen, Jones - yall just got played....

If she shows up next time looking for more funds yall might want to check her purse at the door!

That implies no other work.

No, it means a minimum of 40 hours weekly in exchange for the salary.

Fine

Show us her time sheets for both jobs then.

Perfecf solution...good idea 6:43 AM

Pitt Panther, Your post said you could work no less than 40. In the professional world, particularly in the legal world, we work 50-60 hours per week, but some weeks we work 20. It ebbs and flows, but it's full time work on balance. Pam can do both. It isn't that hard to get that, although it requires hard work to perform.

Each time I see your name on a comment I think to myself that I'm about to read the most inane take on the post at issue. I get a kick out of imagining your day-to-day interactions in the real world and how frustrating they must be.

Full-time SALARIED means fixed salary no matter how many or how few hours a person works. They are paid to get the job done. If they get it done in 20 hours, you pay their salary. If they get it done in 60, you pay the same salary. Only real question is if she really can get the job done if not there every day. Also, clerk will support her because they have to work together. Clerk will also support decision of board, because clerk's job depends on board.

If the attorney for the BOS, Phillette, has to keep up with her hours...why can't we just make Sally Struthers provide her time sheets for her days on a weekly basis?

That way Sally's private clients can know for sure that Sally is not billing them for work she is doing for the County.....

That's fair right?

She knew what the job paid when she ran for office. She should have announced in the campaign that she wanted a $27,000 raise. I voted for her. If I had known she was so greedy and a liar, I would not have voted for her. She is pathetic.