Thursday, March 12, 2015

FCC takes on the internet. Hello 1930's.

Here are the new FCC rules concerning the regulation of the internet. Pour a drink first as its a looooong read.


Anonymous said...

I'm getting a " can't display".

But, something needs to be done.

Goebbels's would have loved to so easily spread " The Big Lie" and misinformation!

And, then, there's the slander and libel that just recently has begun to be addressed.

Anonymous said...

Long overdue!

Anonymous said...

Which parts do you find objectionable?

Anonymous said...

This is the set of net neutrality rules. Broadband providers can't favor their own content while slowing down that of their competitors.

JJ seems to object to that because "government."

Anonymous said...

Oh come on KF, not you too. This is a good thing.

Anonymous said...

Ho hum

Long long long over due.

This specifically relates to you, KF.
You watch Netflix, right?

Anonymous said...

Where did all of these liberal pro-regulator types come from today? We already had something in place. It was called free market competition. Why do you think bandwidth capacity has grown exponentially over the last two decades? Well, that's about to stop. Now you just have to feed the jog to stave off competitors. ATT has over 100 years of practice at this game.

Anonymous said...

AT&T was also split up into the Bells because it was abusing its monopoly.

The US's bandwidth PALES in comparison to most other industrialized nations. Guess what they all have in common. Broadband regulations.

AND our tax money went into all those lines in the ground, you're damned right I want a say in how they're used.

Anonymous said...

They got us all addicted to the internet- everything is through the internet, and now they've all calluded together on 'who owns the internet' - it's a pissing contest in which the normal consumer is/was being brow beaten forward, backward, sideways, and in circles.
Not anymore. With all of the dang taxes this state charges me and the federal government charges me for 'obamaphones' on my AT&T bill, I am getting what I paid for.
Oh and by the way, this is lawyerville- sometimes you have to keep these 'free market' capatilists in check because some of us see right through the bs.

Anonymous said...

I have an AT&T unlimited data plan that I signed up for about 10 years ago. Starting a few years ago, AT&T has unilaterally decided to begin throttling my data transfer speeds when my monthly usage reaches a limit that they decided to impose on my unlimited data usage. I am looking forward to the fact that the new net neutrality regulations will eliminate this practice. I doubt I am the only one.

Kingfish said...

Yes, 7:14 and I posted a piece by Karl Denninger on this very subject last year.

The noise coming from the FCC is amusing. The fact of the matter is that while the FCC can mandate whatever it wants it cannot make money materialize out of thin air, and the above numbers suggest that Netflix wishes to impose a low-latenacy, high-bandwidth and near-zero jitter delivery requirement of 20,000 Gbps (that's 20 terabits/second) every night from 7 - 10 PM -- for which it has a tiny fraction of the revenue required to pay for it.

You can't buy or build that sort of capacity for $8/month/household. You in fact probably can't buy or build it for ten times that much if most of it has to travel beyond the local provider's infrastructure. The premise Netflix has run, and "investors" have accepted, is that someone else will eat the firm's operating expenses, and that Netflix will successfully not only cram that down someone else's throat but will be able to continue to do so in perpetuity as it presses upward the amount of data flow required for it's "newer" and "higher-definition" video streams -- an escalation that has already moved the bar higher, at its best-quality setting, by a factor of four.

Oh by the way, while you were not paying attention Netflix also issued $400 million of new debt yesterday.

Look, folks -- the company had $112 million in net income for all of 2013. They don't have the money to pay for moving and maintaining their content to the edge of these providers' infrastructure, feeding it from there. That would be commercially reasonable for an ISP to expect from them and in fact would be exactly identical treatment, that is, net neutral, to what Verizon would have to do were it running its own Netflix competitor

Kingfish said...

The FCC also applied the law to "mobile broadband".

Anonymous said...

If you don't like ATT pricing, you have options. Mobile broadband is good enough to stream video now. You have cable. And others are coming (C-spire, Google). That's the difference in this and monopoly telephone. Competition drives better and faster service. And no, your taxes did not pay for the fiber in the ground.

Anonymous said...

@ 7:18 - Yes, in 20 years our internet speed has grown exponentially but that is mainly due to the fact that broadband became available. 56Kbps to even 1000Kbps (~1Mbps) is an exponential increase.

The problem is our growth stalled compared to other developed nations. In the Jackson metro, you have AT&T or Comcast is most areas. CSpire Fiber is still niche and I wouldn't consider it widely available. Mobile broadband is not viable solution due to caps. You can hit CSpire's 3-5 GB cap with a few movies on Netflix. After that it's $10 per 1 GB. Good luck with that.

Comcast has been fairly good about increasing speed and that is really the only nice thing I can say about them. About 10 years ago I could only get 8Mbps in Hattiesburg with Comcast's residential service. The same plan I had then is now 50Mpbs. Compared to AT&T's residential service, they likely had similar offerings 10 years ago of up to 6Mpbs, but they only offer 18-22Mpbs now with Uverse and that is highly dependent on your TV usage.

Anonymous said...

I never ceased to be amazed at the broad expertise and wisdom of JJ readers. There is no subject about which they are not experts.

Anonymous said...

Yes, 9:01, we are about to be experts on fascism and how it pertains to our communications experience.

This central government control of EVERYTHING (!!!) will result in many waking up one day with a butt hurt wondering where "their freedoms" went.

Pardon my interruption, but you can get back to bitching about your Netflix movies....

Anonymous said...

Henry Ford made automobiles accessible (free-market) and today, the government has a heavy hand in controlling manufacturers. The internet will be no different.

Anonymous said...

The libtards will get what they want. EVERYTHING will be equally SLOW.

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