The Mississippi Legislature plowed new ground last week when members heroically voted to banish the Confederate battle flag from the state flag, uprooting a long-time symbolic vestige of our segregationist past.
The unexpected success resulted from a rare convergence of liberal, conservative, business, and religious groups who provided resources, strategic messaging, and influencers to get the job done.
Think about it. Just getting to consider the bill to replace the flag took a two-thirds vote to suspend the rules in the Mississippi House and Senate where conservative Republicans hold super-majorities. The key votes were 84 to 35 in the House and 36 to 14 in the Senate. The actual bill to change the flag passed 91 to 23 and 37 to 14.
It also took those two-thirds majority votes to get a reluctant Gov. Tate Reeves to agree to withhold a veto.
Speaker of the House Philip Gunn, who called for a flag change in 2015 and authored the final bill, and Lt. Gov. Delbert Hosemann played key roles. Other leaders and organizations outside government stepped up. Then, there was former Gov. Phil Bryant who set the stage for this momentous success.
The resolution to suspend the rules stated: “To provide that the design for the Mississippi state flag recommended by the commission shall not include the design of the confederate battle flag, but shall include the words ‘In God We Trust’."
As far back as 2001 then State Auditor Bryant began to push “In God We Trust” into Mississippi’s public arena (see his interview on YallPolitics.com). In 2014 as governor he got it added to the state seal which he put as the center piece of the Bicentennial flag. In 2018 he approved putting the seal on Mississippi license plates. As Republican leaders began speaking out to change the flag, they also called for the replacement to be the “Seal” flag, a design featuring the state seal, rather than the popular “Stennis” or “Magnolia” flags.
Because of Bryant, the brilliant political move to propose swapping the battle flag for “In God We Trust” as the crux of the state flag was possible.
In Mississippi, faith still resonates more than other convictions. So, a flag proclaiming Mississippian’s abiding faith could overcome allegiance to one proclaiming a divisive heritage.
On Tuesday before the crucial votes were cast, as reported in Mississippi Today, Gunn and Hosemann met with leaders representing many faiths. Soon afterwards, the Mississippi Baptist Convention proclaimed support for a new flag. The Rev. Ligon Duncan, former senior pastor at First Presbyterian Church in Jackson and now chancellor of Reformed Theological Seminary, called on legislators to “Vote to take down the flag and replace it with a symbol that unites us all.” Other pastors spread the word.
Days later enough votes changed to change history.
NOTE: The challenge, now, is for the new flag commission to come up with a design that properly displays the desired message. People should be able to easily see “In God We Trust” on readily identifiable and vivid flags hanging loosely in calm winds and behind podiums.
"Behold, how good and pleasant it is when brothers dwell in unity," Psalm 133:1.
Crawford is a syndicated columnist from Jackson.
Sunday, July 5, 2020
Bill Crawford: Bryant Set Stage for Faith to Supplant Battle Flag
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28 comments:
People who have been fighting for a new flag reject any recognition of Gov Bryant having anything to do with the change of the flag. And I suspect, so would Gov Bryant. He had 16 years to hint that a new flag should be discussed, but nary a word. I suspect he wears confederate flag pajamas.
Kudos to Gunn and Hosemann for recognizing the opportunity to slip something in that people could cling to (God) in exchange for getting rid of the battle flag.
Maybe its just me who sees the irony of swapping out a symbol of oppression, hate, murderous rebellion and slavery for a blurb about God.
I mean, that's a pretty far leap if you ask me. But glad to see it.
Southern reactionary Christians stood by for two centuries after the abolition of slavery in the rest of the world, defending it in practice and later in theory. Many still do.
It took until 2020 for the largest Christian group in Mississippi to finally suggest we should remove the most prominent symbol of slavery. This position remains deeply controversial within actual Baptist churches.
By contrast, I'd wager if you polled the handful of Mississippi atheists, agnostics, and skeptics, you'd have gotten 95%+ support for removing the flag.
At any point in the last 20 years, the Mississippi Republican party --Christians, every single one of them-- could've walked into the Capitol, voted, and removed the confederate flag in a day. A few might've been primaried, but so what? The party would've retained power because there is no alternative.
So if you want to pretend Phil was playing nine dimensional chess, fine. Slow news day I guess.
But to pretend religious faith deserves any credit for change here is so ludicrous it offends common sense.
All the Republicans who finally relented were Christians in January, and had decades of living to pray and think about the flag. Their god did not move them.
Until football was threatened. Then, glory Hallelujah, his divine will was revealed.
Thank Phil Bryant and his "leadership" for John Davis and the DHS debacle, the Chris Epps debacle and a government totally stagnant for his 8 years, along with his buddy Tate. I personally give that rube credit for nothing except advancing the laughter at our state. See what the legislature accomplished with Hosemann and Gunn this year, which is more than Bryant/Reeves got done in 8.
Christians? Guess you never heard of William Wilburforce.
In 2001 when the flag was voted on the Governor was left-wing Ronnie" Toesuck" Musgrove, Lt. Governor was also a Democrat and the legislature was Democrat. Musgrove made William "Ah" Winter Chair of a commission that recommended the vote. Two of Mississippi's most liberal Governors. The left won't tell you that. I just did. Facts are Stubborn things. Also many blacks voted to keep the flag back then.
Andy Taggart reportedly told a woman constituent of his she could fly any flag she wants, but the state flag would have to change. Time will tell if many Mississippians start flying the confederate flag more often than not.
This whole thing about changing the flag is a lot to do about nothing. It will be a footnote in history in short order and nothing will have changed. It will not resolve a thing within the black community, and I think most realize it whether they have the courage to admit it or not.
“Then, there was former Gov. Phil Bryant who set the stage for this momentous success.“
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Imagine having the nerve to write such a nonsensical statement. Bryant did absolutely nothing to change the flag while governor. Zero. Zilch.
Some of these comments are funny.
I'm glad to see the left's tin foil hat crowd come out. . . Sorry Mister Crawford.
Bryant, like the rest of everybody never dreamed the flag would come down in 2020.
I've always thought he wanted to add the phrase "In God we trust" to the official State Seal for political reasons only.
Kind of like when he was Lieutenant Governor, and would call in to Supertalk radio when a tornado hit wherever.
" Well JT, I'm in my pick up truck headed to _____ (insert town or county name) with three chainsaws to help those folks.
The premise of the article is bullshit. Bryant did nothing to change the flag. He was silent.
It's not been 155 years yet, or even a month, and this clown, Crawford, is already rewriting history to associate Phil Bryant with a flag change.
For the premise "Phil Bryant set the table for the flag change", I award Mr. Crawford zero points and may God have mercy on his soul.
“In Mississippi, faith still resonates more than other convictions“
Yet Mississippi has more out of wedlock both than most any other state. In addition, you would think these people with “faith” would have sense to not have kids before getting married. But uh yeah, “religion”
As for Andy Taggart, I could go on and on why he should just keep that mouth of his shut. He has no business telling anyone what to do. He should worry about his own problems first.
The state seal has eleven stars on the eagles chest for...you guessed it...the confederate states. What a joke.
12:48, what you say about Bryant is very true, but you miss the mark when you give kudos to Hosemann. He has said nothing about changing the flag until the ship had already sailed two weeks ago - he resisted any comment favoring a change for the weeks and months before in this session, just as he has done the same during the 12 years of his reign.
Also, he refused to consider anything on a suspension resolution until AFTER the House voted; he was not going to the mattresses until then.
For him to jump on the ship after it had pulled away from the moorings is typical of him - and his months of keeping quite while trying to run the state, take over the CARES dollars, and supermanage his chairmen doesn't justify any accolades now ----even though he is tryingto jump out front in leading the parade. (After all, that's where the best pictures are made.)
The best way to deal with a writer like Crawford is hit delete before you waste your time reading it. All those avoided wasted minutes that you'll not lose add up!
" The state seal has eleven stars on the eagles chest for...you guessed it...the confederate states. What a joke" .
Technically, there were 14 States represented within the Confederacy.
People forget about Kentucky, Missouri and Maryland.
Actually 15 . . . if one remembers the Arizona Territory.
If we're going to bring up American History, how bout' telling the whole story.
3:41, there were 13 confederate states. 11 to start with, and then Kentucky and Missouri followed suit. 13. That's how many stars are on the battle flag.
Nice try though. Pot stirrer.
I am not the biggest Phil fan, but I will give him a little credit on this one. When he was Guv, the polls showed that he was the most popular political figure in Jackson - he understood the rural areas. I don't think it was planned at all, but when it looked like there was going to be significant movement on the flag Phil tweeting out about "swapping" the Confederacy for God struck a chord with a lot of the Legislature. The GOP "city slickers" have known we need to change the flag for years and, from what I have seen, they were getting fed up with the rural folks and their constant focus on 1861-65. Mississippi is last folks. In everything. We have to start doing stuff differently but in all these "past vs. present" battles the past side complains that they are losing something. The "swap" idea was a way for both sides to save face. I imagine legislators have been meeting all weekend with mad constituents and telling them, "Look, the RINOS and Demon-crats were teaming up to get rid of the stars and bars. This way, we are losing that but gaining God - it has to be in the new flag. We may have out-smarted them this time." Phil tweeting his approval might have given this effort the push it needed.
Understand that Bryant is in business in the private sector with his daughter. His motives were the almighty dollar. If the flag was not removed, no out of state companies would want to do business with him—he had 8 years, but did nothing.
Deppity Pheel is probably hoping that people are all in a conniption about the flag and hopefully aren't remembering he was the HMFIC for some of that alleged DHS looting.
Most of us know Taggart should be in the AG's office. I disagreed with him on the flag, but at least he had the balls, early on, to state his beliefs about it. All the current AG ran on was 'I support Trump'.
Bryant's greatest accomplishments were getting a state wildlife area stamped with his name and offering support for the third Madison County garbage dump.
I thought this was all Laurin Stennis' doing (insert sarcasm here).
Funny how everybody wants to take credit for the flag change. The SEC and NCAA changed the flag plain and simple. Although the flag needed changing, it's a slippery slope they're on. They will feel emboldened to make other "suggestions" at the threat of championships and regionals. Especially if you're one of the lower revenue schools.
Neither Kentucky nor Virginia joined the Confederacy. Although both had soldiers on both sides, only those states that seceded were members of the CSA.
I know that I will catch crap from many of your readers but the purpose of this blog is free speech and I will express it.
Changing the flag? It is about time.
Putting "In God We Trust" on it? More cramming things down our throats that doesn't represent all Mississippians. Sure, we non-believers only make up 15-20% of the population. But why do this sort of divisive practice (replacing a flag hated by 40% of the population by one hated by 15-20% of the population)? Why be divisive? There is no reason for it than to shove religion down someone's throat and create animosity.
Just put up a flag we can all stand behind. Leave the "In God We Trust" out.
11:16 - Waiting on an illustration of your suggestion. when have 'we' all 'stood behind' a damned thing? The answer is never have and never will - same is true in 49 other states.
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